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All Blacks XV 2023

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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

    I'd actually have gone Frizzel or Robinson over Strange.

    Tom Robinson is a very entertaining player to watch and I love his energy, but maybe being a 6/lock with injury issues didn't help him nail down a clear USP for either.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

    I'd actually have gone Frizzel or Robinson over Strange.

    Tom Robinson is a very entertaining player to watch and I love his energy, but maybe being a 6/lock with injury issues didn't help him nail down a clear USP for either.

    Both tend to play better at lock, oddly.

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      No Josh Dickson. Is he off overseas?

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      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:

      No Josh Dickson. Is he off overseas?

      Has he played since his brother passed away?

      Given that Dickson was in this squad last year, maybe he is taking an extended break from rugby.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        The 30-strong All Blacks XV squad is as follows (age, Super Rugby club, province):

        Forwards:

        Props
        Jermaine Ainsley (28, Highlanders, Otago)
        Oli Jager (27, Crusaders, Canterbury)
        Tevita Mafileo (25, Hurricanes, Bay of Plenty)
        Xavier Numia (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
        Aidan Ross (27, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)

        Hookers
        Asafo Aumua (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
        Ricky Riccitelli (28, Blues, Taranaki)
        Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)

        Locks
        Naitoa Ah Kuoi (23, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)
        Quinten Strange (26, Crusaders, Ta$man)
        Isaia Walker-Leawere (26, Hurricanes, Hawke’s Bay)

        Loose Forwards
        Billy Harmon (28, Highlanders, Canterbury)
        Akira Ioane (28, Blues, Auckland)
        Du’Plessis Kirifi (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
        Christian Lio-Willie (24, Crusaders, Otago)
        Pita Gus Sowakula (28, Chiefs, Taranaki)
        Cameron Suafoa (27, Blues, North Harbour)

        Backs:
        Halfbacks
        Folau Fakatava (23, Highlanders, Hawke’s Bay)
        Brad Weber (32, Chiefs, Hawke’s Bay)

        First-five-eighths
        Brett Cameron (26, Hurricanes, Manawatū)
        Stephen Perofeta (26, Blues, Taranaki)

        Midfielders
        Jack Goodhue (27, Crusaders, Northland)
        Alex Nankivell (26, Chiefs, Ta$man)
        Billy Proctor (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
        Bailyn Sullivan (24, Hurricanes, Waikato)

        Outside Backs
        Sam Gilbert (24, Highlanders, Otago)
        AJ Lam (24, Blues, Auckland)
        Ruben Love (22, Hurricanes, Wellington)
        Etene Nanai-Seturo (23, Chiefs, Counties Manukau)
        Jona Nareki (25, Highlanders, Otago)

        The All Blacks XV assemble on 29 June, travelling to Tokyo where they compete for the 2023 Lipovitan-D Challenge Cup kicking off Saturday 8 July, at Tokyo’s historic Chichibunomiya Rugby Stadium in Tokyo before a second match on Saturday, July 15 at Egao Kenko Stadium in Kumamoto.

        https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-xv-squad-named-for-japan-tour/

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        @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

        Hookers
        Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)

        Have I been asleep and missed something, when did this happen?

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        • gt12G gt12

          How the fuck does Sowakula make that team? He’s going going gone but must be closer than Sotutu to going to the WC.

          When Sotutu signs overseas, this will be why.

          What a massive fuck you this non-selection is.

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          @gt12 for me, Sotutu has probably the best skill set of our loosies, and works hard on defence, sure this year he hasnt been at the top of his game, but jeez, he has fallen far, while others who have plodded along have stayed in the frame.

          Guess the only small window, is that this is TRC Squad, but you'd think it'd be hard for anyone outside the 36 and the ABXV to make it into the 32/33 for the RWC.

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            No Stephenson either.

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            • A akan004

              Surprised that Dom Gardiner hasn't made the AB XV. Wasn't a fan of his initially but he impressed against Ireland A last year and was looking in good form in SR before he got injured.

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              @akan004 said in All Blacks XV:

              Surprised that Dom Gardiner hasn't made the AB XV. Wasn't a fan of his initially but he impressed against Ireland A last year and was looking in good form in SR before he got injured.

              Agree he was impressive last year and he made a good enough fist of things when he filled in at lock for the Saders this year, but I thought he let himself down a fair bit when he got a few games in a row at six. He seemed to fall out of favour (I don't think he was injured again) with Roberston selecting Lio-Willie and Havili Talitui instead (two hard working but limited players).

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @gt12 for me, Sotutu has probably the best skill set of our loosies, and works hard on defence, sure this year he hasnt been at the top of his game, but jeez, he has fallen far, while others who have plodded along have stayed in the frame.

                Guess the only small window, is that this is TRC Squad, but you'd think it'd be hard for anyone outside the 36 and the ABXV to make it into the 32/33 for the RWC.

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                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                @gt12 for me, Sotutu has probably the best skill set of our loosies, and works hard on defence, sure this year he hasnt been at the top of his game, but jeez, he has fallen far, while others who have plodded along have stayed in the frame.

                Guess the only small window, is that this is TRC Squad, but you'd think it'd be hard for anyone outside the 36 and the ABXV to make it into the 32/33 for the RWC.

                I don’t think the AB rest period thing helped him stay in form.

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                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                  @akan004 said in All Blacks XV:

                  Surprised that Dom Gardiner hasn't made the AB XV. Wasn't a fan of his initially but he impressed against Ireland A last year and was looking in good form in SR before he got injured.

                  Agree he was impressive last year and he made a good enough fist of things when he filled in at lock for the Saders this year, but I thought he let himself down a fair bit when he got a few games in a row at six. He seemed to fall out of favour (I don't think he was injured again) with Roberston selecting Lio-Willie and Havili Talitui instead (two hard working but limited players).

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                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

                  @akan004 said in All Blacks XV:

                  Surprised that Dom Gardiner hasn't made the AB XV. Wasn't a fan of his initially but he impressed against Ireland A last year and was looking in good form in SR before he got injured.

                  Agree he was impressive last year and he made a good enough fist of things when he filled in at lock for the Saders this year, but I thought he let himself down a fair bit when he got a few games in a row at six. He seemed to fall out of favour (I don't think he was injured again) with Roberston selecting Lio-Willie and Havili Talitui instead (two hard working but limited players).

                  Nah he got injured and only made his return last weekend.

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                    stoked for Nareki and Gilbert, just a small sign that the AB's selectors have noticed the graft

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                      Of those players that are fit, the big losers from last year's original squad are Dominic Gardiner, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Levi Aumua and Bryce Heem.

                      I haven't included replacement players or Josh Dickson.

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                      • A akan004

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

                        @akan004 said in All Blacks XV:

                        Surprised that Dom Gardiner hasn't made the AB XV. Wasn't a fan of his initially but he impressed against Ireland A last year and was looking in good form in SR before he got injured.

                        Agree he was impressive last year and he made a good enough fist of things when he filled in at lock for the Saders this year, but I thought he let himself down a fair bit when he got a few games in a row at six. He seemed to fall out of favour (I don't think he was injured again) with Roberston selecting Lio-Willie and Havili Talitui instead (two hard working but limited players).

                        Nah he got injured and only made his return last weekend.

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                        @akan004 said in All Blacks XV:

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

                        @akan004 said in All Blacks XV:

                        Surprised that Dom Gardiner hasn't made the AB XV. Wasn't a fan of his initially but he impressed against Ireland A last year and was looking in good form in SR before he got injured.

                        Agree he was impressive last year and he made a good enough fist of things when he filled in at lock for the Saders this year, but I thought he let himself down a fair bit when he got a few games in a row at six. He seemed to fall out of favour (I don't think he was injured again) with Roberston selecting Lio-Willie and Havili Talitui instead (two hard working but limited players).

                        Nah he got injured and only made his return last weekend.

                        Did he? I asked a couple of weeks ago about whether he was injured but nobody seemed to know.

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                        • HigginsH Higgins

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                          Hookers
                          Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)

                          Have I been asleep and missed something, when did this happen?

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                          @Higgins said in All Blacks XV:

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                          Hookers
                          Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)

                          Have I been asleep and missed something, when did this happen?

                          Likely an error.

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                          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                            @akan004 said in All Blacks XV:

                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

                            @akan004 said in All Blacks XV:

                            Surprised that Dom Gardiner hasn't made the AB XV. Wasn't a fan of his initially but he impressed against Ireland A last year and was looking in good form in SR before he got injured.

                            Agree he was impressive last year and he made a good enough fist of things when he filled in at lock for the Saders this year, but I thought he let himself down a fair bit when he got a few games in a row at six. He seemed to fall out of favour (I don't think he was injured again) with Roberston selecting Lio-Willie and Havili Talitui instead (two hard working but limited players).

                            Nah he got injured and only made his return last weekend.

                            Did he? I asked a couple of weeks ago about whether he was injured but nobody seemed to know.

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                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

                            @akan004 said in All Blacks XV:

                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

                            @akan004 said in All Blacks XV:

                            Surprised that Dom Gardiner hasn't made the AB XV. Wasn't a fan of his initially but he impressed against Ireland A last year and was looking in good form in SR before he got injured.

                            Agree he was impressive last year and he made a good enough fist of things when he filled in at lock for the Saders this year, but I thought he let himself down a fair bit when he got a few games in a row at six. He seemed to fall out of favour (I don't think he was injured again) with Roberston selecting Lio-Willie and Havili Talitui instead (two hard working but limited players).

                            Nah he got injured and only made his return last weekend.

                            Did he? I asked a couple of weeks ago about whether he was injured but nobody seemed to know.

                            Yeah, there was not much news on it. I remember him walking off injured a few weeks ago, I think it was a hammy if memory serves.

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                            • A akan004

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

                              @akan004 said in All Blacks XV:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

                              @akan004 said in All Blacks XV:

                              Surprised that Dom Gardiner hasn't made the AB XV. Wasn't a fan of his initially but he impressed against Ireland A last year and was looking in good form in SR before he got injured.

                              Agree he was impressive last year and he made a good enough fist of things when he filled in at lock for the Saders this year, but I thought he let himself down a fair bit when he got a few games in a row at six. He seemed to fall out of favour (I don't think he was injured again) with Roberston selecting Lio-Willie and Havili Talitui instead (two hard working but limited players).

                              Nah he got injured and only made his return last weekend.

                              Did he? I asked a couple of weeks ago about whether he was injured but nobody seemed to know.

                              Yeah, there was not much news on it. I remember him walking off injured a few weeks ago, I think it was a hammy if memory serves.

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                              @akan004

                              He has been training with the squad the last 5 weeks and played some club just not selected.

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                              • WingerW Winger

                                @Higgins said in All Blacks XV:

                                @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                Hookers
                                Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)

                                Have I been asleep and missed something, when did this happen?

                                Likely an error.

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                                @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                                @Higgins said in All Blacks XV:

                                @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                Hookers
                                Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)

                                Have I been asleep and missed something, when did this happen?

                                Likely an error.

                                It definitely is.

                                From the Magpies' socials:

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @akan004

                                  He has been training with the squad the last 5 weeks and played some club just not selected.

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                                  @Chris said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @akan004

                                  He has been training with the squad the last 5 weeks and played some club just not selected.

                                  Ok fair enough, I stand corrected. I was sure he limped off. Was there a reason given for his non selection? Didn't think he had lost form.

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                                  • M Mr Fish

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

                                    Interesting that means Leon doesn't have much to do with the abs until half way through RC

                                    Suspect he won't have much to do with the All Blacks until next year...

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                                    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

                                    Interesting that means Leon doesn't have much to do with the abs until half way through RC

                                    Suspect he won't have much to do with the All Blacks until next year...

                                    D'oh! 🤦

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Higgins said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                      Hookers
                                      Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)

                                      Have I been asleep and missed something, when did this happen?

                                      Likely an error.

                                      It definitely is.

                                      From the Magpies' socials:

                                      a78a8be8-70c1-4a45-abd1-68d370e2f17d-image.png

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                                      @Stargazer Phew. Hopefully someone will keep checking the NZRFU media sites and will be able to advise when they correct this error. Will also give a further indication whether (or how closely) they are monitoring this site as well!

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                                      • C cgrant

                                        No Stephenson either.

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                                        @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

                                        No Stephenson either.

                                        He in abs as cover for Telea

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                                        • HigginsH Higgins

                                          @Stargazer Phew. Hopefully someone will keep checking the NZRFU media sites and will be able to advise when they correct this error. Will also give a further indication whether (or how closely) they are monitoring this site as well!

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                                          @Higgins said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Stargazer Phew. Hopefully someone will keep checking the NZRFU media sites and will be able to advise when they correct this error. Will also give a further indication whether (or how closely) they are monitoring this site as well!

                                          They have corrected it!

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