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  • S Steve

    There has always been contentious calls but they seem to be more contentious under Fozzie than any particular era I remember.

    Like Stevenson can't get in, but Fozzie was part of a coaching group that routinely picked George Bridge.

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    @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

    There has always been contentious calls but they seem to be more contentious under Fozzie than any particular era I remember.

    Like Stevenson can't get in, but Fozzie was part of a coaching group that routinely picked George Bridge.

    You've forgotten Mitch's era already? 🙂

    If you go back through the thread a few pages before the naming, I think everyone who got picked by Fozzie got picked by multiple people - except Dallas McLeod. I really don't think there's too many hard done by, or exceptionally lucky. A few coin tosses.

    I didn't really think Finau or Narawa would make it this time, either - but, I can see why Narawa (an out and out wing) might have edged Stevenson (a fullback-wing - who I don't think is too hard done by, anyway - he's got a month to show he belongs - I reckon he's probably quite thrilled).

    Biggest mystery to me is why Sotutu hasn't made the AB XV selection. I'm almost wondering whether he was the guy who slid out of the ABs and they forgot to modify that AB XV list. Crazier things have happened. 🙂

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      People need to watch the video to see the context of the question asked and Foster's reply. Some over the top comments on here. It's not the RWC squad.

      Compare that to Henry and co in 2011 when some players not selected for the RWC squad had to face the media when returning from SA.

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        I feel a bit sorry for Fozzie. Im watching him on the breakdown at the moment and he is a terrible orator.

        He looks completely out of his depth and ill-befitting of the role.

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          People need to watch the video to see the context of the question asked and Foster's reply. Some over the top comments on here. It's not the RWC squad.

          Compare that to Henry and co in 2011 when some players not selected for the RWC squad had to face the media when returning from SA.

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          @Bovidae I’ve watched it. Said he was hurt that the guys never got back to him. Fair enough, you’d like to think the relationship goes both ways, but he needs to show some empathy there.

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          • S Steve

            I feel a bit sorry for Fozzie. Im watching him on the breakdown at the moment and he is a terrible orator.

            He looks completely out of his depth and ill-befitting of the role.

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            @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

            I feel a bit sorry for Fozzie. Im watching him on the breakdown at the moment and he is a terrible orator.

            He looks completely out of his depth and ill-befitting of the role.

            That guy presenting him with the jersey was amateurish as well. Really embarassing.

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              @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

              I feel a bit sorry for Fozzie. Im watching him on the breakdown at the moment and he is a terrible orator.

              He looks completely out of his depth and ill-befitting of the role.

              That guy presenting him with the jersey was amateurish as well. Really embarassing.

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              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2023:

              @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

              I feel a bit sorry for Fozzie. Im watching him on the breakdown at the moment and he is a terrible orator.

              He looks completely out of his depth and ill-befitting of the role.

              That guy presenting him with the jersey was amateurish as well. Really embarassing.

              Fozzie was shocked to be "winning " something hahahaha

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                The punditry on the breakdown is terrible.

                Get off the fence for crying out loud.

                Wilson was so bombastic as a player and a complete politician as a pundit.

                Mils is as bad.

                They are too close to the national set up.

                It does us all a dis-service.

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                  Id kill my own granny if Jason Ryan asked me to.

                  Hes deadly.

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                    Wonder will Ireland be un-nerved if/when they face us with Joe Schmidt involved full time.

                    He was at arms length during last years series.

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                    • S Steve

                      The punditry on the breakdown is terrible.

                      Get off the fence for crying out loud.

                      Wilson was so bombastic as a player and a complete politician as a pundit.

                      Mils is as bad.

                      They are too close to the national set up.

                      It does us all a dis-service.

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                      @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

                      Wilson was so bombastic as a player

                      stood up with other Otago players when NZR were competing with others at the beginning of the professional era. Didn't expect him to go from that to all the appearances of a corporate shill

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                        Proctor looks very unlucky to me.

                        He has at least played in the midfield this year when it matters.

                        I’m well sick of seeing Crusaders back-up players picked as ABs when they cant command a start in that position.

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                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2023:

                        Proctor looks very unlucky to me.

                        He has at least played in the midfield this year when it matters.

                        I’m well sick of seeing Crusaders back-up players picked as ABs when they cant command a start in that position.

                        And the preferred player doesn't make it. Proctor though might be better of playing for the AB 15 than sitting watching the ABs play.

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                          Haven't read anyone else's comments, so apologies if I'm just repeating what has already been said, but holy fuck this is a nightmare scenario. On what basis can the selectors determine that Finlay Christie's play over the SR season merit inclusion in the All Black squad over Webber?

                          How do they watch Beaudy and think "here's a five-eighth to steer us around the park"?

                          The ongoing mystery that is Shannon Frizzel makes Blackadder Snr as visible as peak Cullen.

                          Laulala. Clarke. No Stevenson.

                          So a player that will clearly not be in the position he's been listed, takes the place of one of the form players.

                          And I bet that the new form players will get their chance to impress by playing an away Test in a depleted match day squad, so will be forced to look disjointed and confirm suspicions they aren't ready yet. And hence we'll take the same donkeys who've failed repeatedly to France.

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                            https://www.steelers.co.nz/steelers-heat/latest/news/celebrating-counties-manukaus-newest-all-black.html?fbclid=IwAR2umzEZDoSJKs6zz5XEyCKCy3hDbsl6mwLZu1vIVdjE0c4TzFHdLxOzotI

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                              Curious to know for the thousands of posts on the "bolters" thread did anyone pick Dallas?

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                                Curious to know for the thousands of posts on the "bolters" thread did anyone pick Dallas?

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                                @bayimports said in All Blacks 2023:

                                Curious to know for the thousands of posts on the "bolters" thread did anyone pick Dallas?

                                Canerbry rarely posts anymore

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                                  Haven't read anyone else's comments, so apologies if I'm just repeating what has already been said, but holy fuck this is a nightmare scenario. On what basis can the selectors determine that Finlay Christie's play over the SR season merit inclusion in the All Black squad over Webber?

                                  How do they watch Beaudy and think "here's a five-eighth to steer us around the park"?

                                  The ongoing mystery that is Shannon Frizzel makes Blackadder Snr as visible as peak Cullen.

                                  Laulala. Clarke. No Stevenson.

                                  So a player that will clearly not be in the position he's been listed, takes the place of one of the form players.

                                  And I bet that the new form players will get their chance to impress by playing an away Test in a depleted match day squad, so will be forced to look disjointed and confirm suspicions they aren't ready yet. And hence we'll take the same donkeys who've failed repeatedly to France.

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                                  @antipodean Beautiful

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                                  • B bayimports

                                    Curious to know for the thousands of posts on the "bolters" thread did anyone pick Dallas?

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                                    @bayimports said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    Curious to know for the thousands of posts on the "bolters" thread did anyone pick Dallas?

                                    I think he was mentioned then laughed down

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @bayimports said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      Curious to know for the thousands of posts on the "bolters" thread did anyone pick Dallas?

                                      Canerbry rarely posts anymore

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                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @bayimports said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      Curious to know for the thousands of posts on the "bolters" thread did anyone pick Dallas?

                                      Canerbry rarely posts anymore

                                      ha ha good to on him, a true bolter that pick.

                                      A few raised eyebrows from me on some of these picks, but quite clear this is not a RWC squad. It will be interesting to see how many of these players will find any game time and a chance to step up.
                                      Conversely plays like Beaudy, I'm sure will get plenty of time to find any form although for me with a whole season to find some, looks like a player Fozzie just wont give up on..

                                      Although I didn't expect him to be named (nor deserved it), I do expect RTS to be playing league before year end and if I am Shaun Stevenson, I would be seriously be considering some of the league offers, such a great football talent and would be a shame to lose him, but in squad as cover only..seriously Fozzie GFY.

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                                      • B bayimports

                                        Curious to know for the thousands of posts on the "bolters" thread did anyone pick Dallas?

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                                        @bayimports They did!

                                        @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                        @BerniesCorner https://www.facebook.com/crusadersrugby/photos/a.10150098825782147/10160804237242147/
                                        Dallas Macleod named MOTM surely on current form he must be in with a chance.

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                                        • S Steve

                                          Id kill my own granny if Jason Ryan asked me to.

                                          Hes deadly.

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                                          @Steve Ryan got alot to answer for

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