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All Blacks 2023

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

    i have to add...we've been here before i feel, they pick some new players for the squad...but in our hearts we know that frizell will start and if he doesn't it will be scooter, BB will be 15, jordan and clark on the wings, these new guys might get a cap here of there just to lock them in but short of injuries they wont get much game time

    I'll be extremely surprised if Scooter isn't their starting 6 - unless one of the big locks get injured.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

    i have to add...we've been here before i feel, they pick some new players for the squad...but in our hearts we know that frizell will start and if he doesn't it will be scooter, BB will be 15, jordan and clark on the wings, these new guys might get a cap here of there just to lock them in but short of injuries they wont get much game time

    I'll be extremely surprised if Scooter isn't their starting 6 - unless one of the big locks get injured.

    you're right, i only mean to say that actual change is unlikely

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      I reckon Frizell has looked good this season especially when he played at lock.

      I’m hoping they give Finau a crack at starting - don’t mind if it’s the Boks or Argies.

      I think Barrett might start at lock for the first couple of tests at least.

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      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

      I reckon Frizell has looked good this season especially when he played at lock.

      I’m hoping they give Finau a crack at starting - don’t mind if it’s the Boks or Argies.

      I think Barrett might start at lock for the first couple of tests at least.

      I didn't watch much of the Highlanders and when I did Frizell was mainly playing lock and winning his lineout ball as a primary target - so Fozzie would have liked that.

      When he's played his best games for the ABs he's basically been hitting the ball up, one off the ruck and recycling - not pretty, but he does it effectively. Gets to the gain line, draws defenders and rarely gets turned over.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

        I reckon Frizell has looked good this season especially when he played at lock.

        I’m hoping they give Finau a crack at starting - don’t mind if it’s the Boks or Argies.

        I think Barrett might start at lock for the first couple of tests at least.

        I didn't watch much of the Highlanders and when I did Frizell was mainly playing lock and winning his lineout ball as a primary target - so Fozzie would have liked that.

        When he's played his best games for the ABs he's basically been hitting the ball up, one off the ruck and recycling - not pretty, but he does it effectively. Gets to the gain line, draws defenders and rarely gets turned over.

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        @Chris-B pretty sure he only played lock twice late in the season when we had injuries

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          i have to add...we've been here before i feel, they pick some new players for the squad...but in our hearts we know that frizell will start and if he doesn't it will be scooter, BB will be 15, jordan and clark on the wings, these new guys might get a cap here of there just to lock them in but short of injuries they wont get much game time

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          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

          these new guys might get a cap here of there just to lock them in

          I don't believe this for a second.

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @Chris-B pretty sure he only played lock twice late in the season when we had injuries

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            Chris B.
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            @Kiwiwomble Sounds right - I didn't watch much of the Highlanders and only towards the end. πŸ™‚

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              #1767

              Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

              https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

              You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

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              • M Machpants

                Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

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                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

                DMac has shown far better form in SR this year, coupled with a strong showing on tour at the end of last year. BB's play has fallen off a cliff by comparison

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                  Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                  You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

                  DMac has shown far better form in SR this year, coupled with a strong showing on tour at the end of last year. BB's play has fallen off a cliff by comparison

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                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                  Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                  You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

                  DMac has shown far better form in SR this year, coupled with a strong showing on tour at the end of last year. BB's play has fallen off a cliff by comparison

                  dont forget though, he was world player of the year....6 years ago....so there is that

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                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                    Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                    You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

                    DMac has shown far better form in SR this year, coupled with a strong showing on tour at the end of last year. BB's play has fallen off a cliff by comparison

                    dont forget though, he was world player of the year....6 years ago....so there is that

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                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                    Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                    You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

                    DMac has shown far better form in SR this year, coupled with a strong showing on tour at the end of last year. BB's play has fallen off a cliff by comparison

                    dont forget though, he was world player of the year....6 years ago....so there is that

                    I'm a big BB fan. But he's never been the same since he moved north just saying....

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                      Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                      You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

                      DMac has shown far better form in SR this year, coupled with a strong showing on tour at the end of last year. BB's play has fallen off a cliff by comparison

                      dont forget though, he was world player of the year....6 years ago....so there is that

                      I'm a big BB fan. But he's never been the same since he moved north just saying....

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                      @canefan yeah, he was canes mabo eh, he probably woulda gone past Tana as the face of the canes in my head if he'd stayed.

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                        Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                        https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                        You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

                        DMac has shown far better form in SR this year, coupled with a strong showing on tour at the end of last year. BB's play has fallen off a cliff by comparison

                        dont forget though, he was world player of the year....6 years ago....so there is that

                        I'm a big BB fan. But he's never been the same since he moved north just saying....

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                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                        I'm a big BB fan. But he's never been the same since he moved north just saying....

                        He was going down hill before he left (since 2017 on. He was brilliant at times in 2015) But never as bad as last WE. Blues (or aging) have been bad for him.

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                          Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                          You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

                          DMac has shown far better form in SR this year, coupled with a strong showing on tour at the end of last year. BB's play has fallen off a cliff by comparison

                          dont forget though, he was world player of the year....6 years ago....so there is that

                          I'm a big BB fan. But he's never been the same since he moved north just saying....

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                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                          Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                          You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

                          DMac has shown far better form in SR this year, coupled with a strong showing on tour at the end of last year. BB's play has fallen off a cliff by comparison

                          dont forget though, he was world player of the year....6 years ago....so there is that

                          I'm a big BB fan. But he's never been the same since he moved north just saying....

                          so am i in general....but i do get more judgy when players seem to get treated like they can do no wrong....like we're not watching them and seeing it isn't true, his form has dropped or at least plateaued and yet the AB's still think he's untouchable

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @canefan yeah, he was canes mabo eh, he probably woulda gone past Tana as the face of the canes in my head if he'd stayed.

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @canefan yeah, he was canes mabo eh, he probably woulda gone past Tana as the face of the canes in my head if he'd stayed.

                            It's a hard road finding the perfect woman

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                            • M Machpants

                              Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                              You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

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                              Chris B.
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                              #1775

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                              Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                              You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

                              Nice article - because it agrees with me πŸ™‚ - but, way more analysis on the minutiae of Richie's play.

                              About the only think Nick Bishop has missed is analysis of the "thumb grip"! (2003 called and wants its joke back!).

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                                The real question at 10 is Mounga or DMac.
                                BB shouldn't even be in consideration.
                                He can worry about trying to hold on to the 15 spot vs Jordan.

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                                • F Frank

                                  The real question at 10 is Mounga or DMac.
                                  BB shouldn't even be in consideration.
                                  He can worry about trying to hold on to the 15 spot vs Jordan.

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                                  @Frank well I always thought that anyway, unless something at training makes them think something different of course.

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                                    Copied from the "Feed the backs" instagram, because embed doesn't work anymore:

                                    c34dfbda-1561-4b45-a546-dcd155de1c00-image.png

                                    feedthebacks For the stats nerds out there πŸ˜πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ

                                    Stats via @allblacks and @crusadersrugbyteam

                                    For those interested, the lightest ever All Blacks weighed 58.9kg (there were 3 of them: Merv Corner, Harry Nicholls and Alan Reid)

                                    Including these comments:

                                    8d035a51-44b1-4249-86ac-7b059fb362d5-image.png

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      Copied from the "Feed the backs" instagram, because embed doesn't work anymore:

                                      c34dfbda-1561-4b45-a546-dcd155de1c00-image.png

                                      feedthebacks For the stats nerds out there πŸ˜πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ

                                      Stats via @allblacks and @crusadersrugbyteam

                                      For those interested, the lightest ever All Blacks weighed 58.9kg (there were 3 of them: Merv Corner, Harry Nicholls and Alan Reid)

                                      Including these comments:

                                      8d035a51-44b1-4249-86ac-7b059fb362d5-image.png

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                                      #1779

                                      @Stargazer that's funny after I saw a headline (probably by ruck) talking about how France might select some 140kg player and weirdly mentioned specifically the ABs should watch out.

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                                        You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

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                                        @Machpants I just watched the Smith video - not surprisingly, he's bloody good - knows exactly what he wants and can see instantly what isn't right.

                                        Right at the end, he's talking about letting the ball carrier manipulate the defence and the next receiver holding his line. Which put me in mind of a story Bruce Robertson's brother told at Bruce's funeral where they were playing two-aside rugby with their mates and Bruce's brother cut inside to take a pass. Bruce told him never to do that again because "the space is out there and I will put you in it".

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          Copied from the "Feed the backs" instagram, because embed doesn't work anymore:

                                          c34dfbda-1561-4b45-a546-dcd155de1c00-image.png

                                          feedthebacks For the stats nerds out there πŸ˜πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ

                                          Stats via @allblacks and @crusadersrugbyteam

                                          For those interested, the lightest ever All Blacks weighed 58.9kg (there were 3 of them: Merv Corner, Harry Nicholls and Alan Reid)

                                          Including these comments:

                                          8d035a51-44b1-4249-86ac-7b059fb362d5-image.png

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                                          @Stargazer Those posts by de Groot and Lomax are classics.

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