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All Blacks 2023

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    #1810

    Chiefs and Crusaders players picked in the squad will join the All Blacks camp next week, meanwhile, Chiefs outside back Shaun Stevenson had been named as injury cover for the Blues’ Mark Telea.

    Foster said Telea had a strained knee and the team had been told he could be out for four weeks, but he would be reassessed in the coming weeks.

    Foster said it was “not a major strain”.

    Blues prop Nepo Laulala was not with the squad due to the birth of a child and the team had brought in Tevita Mafileo, Asafo Aumua and Stephen Perofeta to boost their numbers in the meantime.

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      #1811

      This is the article that quote is from:

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby-pacific-final-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-excited-for-chiefs-and-crusaders-clash/3P2VBDBX5JBQHKVA5FFKO72BSE/

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        Would need Red Beard or Bart to confirm but he doesn’t look like a “good” 140kg if you know what I mean. Hopefully he actually is.

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        • MN5M MN5

          Would need Red Beard or Bart to confirm but he doesn’t look like a “good” 140kg if you know what I mean. Hopefully he actually is.

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          @MN5 really? He looks a helluva lot better than a Tamiefuna type 140kg.

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            #1814

            For an up and down year, I don't see why selectors still wouldn't want this in their team and to see if they can fix any failings.

            FB_IMG_1687333741836.jpg

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            • BonesB Bones

              For an up and down year, I don't see why selectors still wouldn't want this in their team and to see if they can fix any failings.

              FB_IMG_1687333741836.jpg

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              @Bones I wonder if Sotutu's numbers were bolstered by carving up the bottom half of Super Rugby as opposed to the other semi finalists (who the Blues went 0-5 against).

              I don't think J Ryan rates him particularly highly.

              There's been the odd spark for the ABs but overall I think Hoskins has disappointed at test level given the initial promise of his 2020 Super form.

              It's a shame as he's a remarkably skilful player but I'm just not sure his game translates to test level.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @MN5 really? He looks a helluva lot better than a Tamiefuna type 140kg.

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                @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                @MN5 really? He looks a helluva lot better than a Tamiefuna type 140kg.

                I was watching on a wide screen TV to be fair

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @Bones I wonder if Sotutu's numbers were bolstered by carving up the bottom half of Super Rugby as opposed to the other semi finalists (who the Blues went 0-5 against).

                  I don't think J Ryan rates him particularly highly.

                  There's been the odd spark for the ABs but overall I think Hoskins has disappointed at test level given the initial promise of his 2020 Super form.

                  It's a shame as he's a remarkably skilful player but I'm just not sure his game translates to test level.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @Bones I wonder if Sotutu's numbers were bolstered by carving up the bottom half of Super Rugby as opposed to the other semi finalists (who the Blues went 0-5 against).

                  I don't think J Ryan rates him particularly highly.

                  There's been the odd spark for the ABs but overall I think Hoskins has disappointed at test level given the initial promise of his 2020 Super form.

                  It's a shame as he's a remarkably skilful player but I'm just not sure his game translates to test level.

                  A midfield of Ardie and him would probably be better than what we've had since 2015.

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                    #1818

                    Players need consistent game time to get test rugby. Only the very very good come in and look to the manor born

                    Sotutu is stuck behind an ever-present who never gets hurt or tired, and plays a position that rarely makes the bench. So opportunity has been few and far between.

                    He's got a great skill set, and has definitely shown work rate, and I am so disappointed he's not picked.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      Players need consistent game time to get test rugby. Only the very very good come in and look to the manor born

                      Sotutu is stuck behind an ever-present who never gets hurt or tired, and plays a position that rarely makes the bench. So opportunity has been few and far between.

                      He's got a great skill set, and has definitely shown work rate, and I am so disappointed he's not picked.

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                      #1819

                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                      Players need consistent game time to get test rugby. Only the very very good come in and look to the manor born

                      Sotutu is stuck behind an ever-present who never gets hurt or tired, and plays a position that rarely makes the bench. So opportunity has been few and far between.

                      He's got a great skill set, and has definitely shown work rate, and I am so disappointed he's not picked.

                      Because he is a back masquerading as a loose forward, he doesn't hit enough rucks, lacks physicality, is noticeably skinny (106kg) for someone of his height & position, doesn't dominate collisions, only upside is attacking threat, but is simply not dominant enough on both sides of the ball to excel against better sides (non-Australian opposition).

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                        #1820

                        Lol riiiiight

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                        • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                          Players need consistent game time to get test rugby. Only the very very good come in and look to the manor born

                          Sotutu is stuck behind an ever-present who never gets hurt or tired, and plays a position that rarely makes the bench. So opportunity has been few and far between.

                          He's got a great skill set, and has definitely shown work rate, and I am so disappointed he's not picked.

                          Because he is a back masquerading as a loose forward, he doesn't hit enough rucks, lacks physicality, is noticeably skinny (106kg) for someone of his height & position, doesn't dominate collisions, only upside is attacking threat, but is simply not dominant enough on both sides of the ball to excel against better sides (non-Australian opposition).

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                          @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                          Players need consistent game time to get test rugby. Only the very very good come in and look to the manor born

                          Sotutu is stuck behind an ever-present who never gets hurt or tired, and plays a position that rarely makes the bench. So opportunity has been few and far between.

                          He's got a great skill set, and has definitely shown work rate, and I am so disappointed he's not picked.

                          Because he is a back masquerading as a loose forward, he doesn't hit enough rucks, lacks physicality, is noticeably skinny (106kg) for someone of his height & position, doesn't dominate collisions, only upside is attacking threat, but is simply not dominant enough on both sides of the ball to excel against better sides (non-Australian opposition).

                          Is he seven foot tall ?

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                            Players need consistent game time to get test rugby. Only the very very good come in and look to the manor born

                            Sotutu is stuck behind an ever-present who never gets hurt or tired, and plays a position that rarely makes the bench. So opportunity has been few and far between.

                            He's got a great skill set, and has definitely shown work rate, and I am so disappointed he's not picked.

                            Because he is a back masquerading as a loose forward, he doesn't hit enough rucks, lacks physicality, is noticeably skinny (106kg) for someone of his height & position, doesn't dominate collisions, only upside is attacking threat, but is simply not dominant enough on both sides of the ball to excel against better sides (non-Australian opposition).

                            Is he seven foot tall ?

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                            #1822

                            @MN5 red and black makes you look less noticeably skinny, just ask Blackadder, Grace and Read

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                              #1823

                              Jason Ryan , when interviewed by Israel Dagg, identified Tamaiti Williams and Finau as having heavy shoulders and providing a point of difference.

                              Also basically said Sotutu did not front up in the semi-final.

                              Said Luke Jacobsen is a very hard worker and tough. Seen as an 8, not really a 6.

                              Josh Lord seen as having big potential.

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                              • F Frank

                                Jason Ryan , when interviewed by Israel Dagg, identified Tamaiti Williams and Finau as having heavy shoulders and providing a point of difference.

                                Also basically said Sotutu did not front up in the semi-final.

                                Said Luke Jacobsen is a very hard worker and tough. Seen as an 8, not really a 6.

                                Josh Lord seen as having big potential.

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                                #1824

                                @Frank Yep, it's in that podcast that I posted earlier today.

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                                  #1825

                                  Love all this talk of "hard shoulders"

                                  Who is guaranteed to start at 8 again?

                                  Oh

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @MN5 red and black makes you look less noticeably skinny, just ask Blackadder, Grace and Read

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                                    #1826

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @MN5 red and black makes you look less noticeably skinny, just ask Blackadder, Grace and Read

                                    So raw boned. Every one of them

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      Love all this talk of "hard shoulders"

                                      Who is guaranteed to start at 8 again?

                                      Oh

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                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      Love all this talk of "hard shoulders"

                                      Who is guaranteed to start at 8 again?

                                      Oh

                                      The ABs for the last 6 years….

                                      https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRR7uYeIdlt3QAAc0kyQrs5Uelqmv7-fNj0IA&usqp=CAU

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        Love all this talk of "hard shoulders"

                                        Who is guaranteed to start at 8 again?

                                        Oh

                                        The ABs for the last 6 years….

                                        https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRR7uYeIdlt3QAAc0kyQrs5Uelqmv7-fNj0IA&usqp=CAU

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        Love all this talk of "hard shoulders"

                                        Who is guaranteed to start at 8 again?

                                        Oh

                                        The ABs for the last 6 years….

                                        https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRR7uYeIdlt3QAAc0kyQrs5Uelqmv7-fNj0IA&usqp=CAU

                                        Fuck that's elite ferning

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @cgrant Afeaki's All Blacks profile says 124kg. Maybe he was heavier at some point, but probably not when he played that test match.

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                                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @cgrant Afeaki's All Blacks profile says 124kg. Maybe he was heavier at some point, but probably not when he played that test match.

                                          He was listed at 138 kg in a few profiles which seemed more likely than 124 kg.

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