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Argentina v All Blacks

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    It's interesting in Eddie's first test the word is he's going to have Vunivalu at 14 whereas by comparison Fozzie put Jordie at 14 in his first test.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:

    It's interesting in Eddie's first test the word is he's going to have Vunivalu at 14

    Eddie's obviously a professional coach, but I don't know what he sees in Vunivalu based on SR form.

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      https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1676808474850918400

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        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1676808474850918400

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        @Stargazer said in Argentina v All Blacks:

        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1676808474850918400

        Not only is it the wrong day, it's not even close to 10am.

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          That's how the NZR media team builds up the hype - NOT!

          Delaying the announcement a few hours for the NZ audience while eating their Weetbix would have been better.

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            if we're going to stick with the attack from anywhere game plan...then surely we need to see if people like SS can break open a defence at this level...I would argue BB spent too long coming off the bench and tearing holes through tired teams but not enough games starting trying to do it against fresh teams early in his career

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            @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:

            if we're going to stick with the attack from anywhere game plan...then surely we need to see if people like SS can break open a defence at this level...I would argue BB spent too long coming off the bench and tearing holes through tired teams but not enough games starting trying to do it against fresh teams early in his career

            That seems to be ignoring the fact we got at least two very good years out of him as our starting 1st 5 that played 80 and would regularly drop back in defence (like DC and Cruden did) and then create havoc for opposition defences.

            For me he’s a better fullback than 1st 5.

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:

              if we're going to stick with the attack from anywhere game plan...then surely we need to see if people like SS can break open a defence at this level...I would argue BB spent too long coming off the bench and tearing holes through tired teams but not enough games starting trying to do it against fresh teams early in his career

              That seems to be ignoring the fact we got at least two very good years out of him as our starting 1st 5 that played 80 and would regularly drop back in defence (like DC and Cruden did) and then create havoc for opposition defences.

              For me he’s a better fullback than 1st 5.

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              @ACT-Crusader i dont meant to say he always been shit when starting or anything, just that it feels that his real stand outgames were early in his career coming off the bench, IMO...and now people are asking why he's not playing like that

              I remember going over a highlights video last year and he's wearing 22/23 in a lot of the clips

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                It's interesting in Eddie's first test the word is he's going to have Vunivalu at 14 whereas by comparison Fozzie put Jordie at 14 in his first test.

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                @KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                It's interesting in Eddie's first test the word is he's going to have Vunivalu at 14 whereas by comparison Fozzie put Jordie at 14 in his first test.

                To be fair to Fozzie, Hansen had started Jordie on the right a couple of times and even on the left wing also, prior to him taking over.

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  if we're going to stick with the attack from anywhere game plan...then surely we need to see if people like SS can break open a defence at this level...I would argue BB spent too long coming off the bench and tearing holes through tired teams but not enough games starting trying to do it against fresh teams early in his career

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                  @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                  if we're going to stick with the attack from anywhere game plan...then surely we need to see if people like SS can break open a defence at this level...

                  There is that, but I think they see the other aspects of his game as being equally important. Want to see him get game time in next few games but think he'll sit this one out as they seem keen to work with him in camp first

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                    It's interesting in Eddie's first test the word is he's going to have Vunivalu at 14 whereas by comparison Fozzie put Jordie at 14 in his first test.

                    To be fair to Fozzie, Hansen had started Jordie on the right a couple of times and even on the left wing also, prior to him taking over.

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                    @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                    @KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                    It's interesting in Eddie's first test the word is he's going to have Vunivalu at 14 whereas by comparison Fozzie put Jordie at 14 in his first test.

                    To be fair to Fozzie, Hansen had started Jordie on the right a couple of times and even on the left wing also, prior to him taking over.

                    Yup and foster had been basically playing the same stuff since Hansen era.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1676808474850918400

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                      @Stargazer said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                      https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1676808474850918400

                      Get out of bed and announce your team now Fozzie! It's been Thursday here all day and it's already 5 am in BA!

                      You must be jetlagged, so stop reading the fern and start writing.

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @ACT-Crusader i dont meant to say he always been shit when starting or anything, just that it feels that his real stand outgames were early in his career coming off the bench, IMO...and now people are asking why he's not playing like that

                        I remember going over a highlights video last year and he's wearing 22/23 in a lot of the clips

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                        @Kiwiwomble I see it a bit different because from 2016-18 I remember a lot of highlights and it was from 1st 5.

                        Agree some of the really freakish stuff dates back to the pre-2015 RWC era and looks good when you add a bit of rock or hip-hop music, so good for the highlight videos šŸ˜‰

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                          Must be time for the @ACT-Crusader team

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                            https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1676816281847357441?t=ey_3yYLZuYVYrf09luWjRQ&s=19

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              Must be time for the @ACT-Crusader team

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                              @KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                              Must be time for the @ACT-Crusader team

                              And there’s a few surprises too.

                              I’ll post it before 11:59pm (NZT) because I’m all about traditions that the NZRU seem intent on trashing.

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                                https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1676816281847357441?t=ey_3yYLZuYVYrf09luWjRQ&s=19

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                                @Tim stays on the outside and rides through the tackle! Unbelievable

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                  Must be time for the @ACT-Crusader team

                                  And there’s a few surprises too.

                                  I’ll post it before 11:59pm (NZT) because I’m all about traditions that the NZRU seem intent on trashing.

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                                  @ACT-Crusader I've heard reports that a few injuries aren't as bad as reported.

                                  T. Highlander is available for selection.

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                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300922042/wild-fans-and-whistles-why-the-all-blacks-must-be-on-high-alert-in-argentina

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                                      Everyone is so negative on BB - have you considered the possibility that maybe he’s just keeping some powder dry for the big dance…

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                                      • voodooV voodoo

                                        Everyone is so negative on BB - have you considered the possibility that maybe he’s just keeping some powder dry for the big dance…

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                                        @voodoo said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                        Everyone is so negative on BB - have you considered the possibility that maybe he’s just keeping some powder dry for the big dance???

                                        This would be a plausible theory if he also hadn't been dire in 2022... Unless he's playing a very long game.

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                                          Irrational conservatism has been a fault for far too long

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