Argentina v All Blacks
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if we're going to stick with the attack from anywhere game plan...then surely we need to see if people like SS can break open a defence at this level...I would argue BB spent too long coming off the bench and tearing holes through tired teams but not enough games starting trying to do it against fresh teams early in his career
@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:
if we're going to stick with the attack from anywhere game plan...then surely we need to see if people like SS can break open a defence at this level...I would argue BB spent too long coming off the bench and tearing holes through tired teams but not enough games starting trying to do it against fresh teams early in his career
That seems to be ignoring the fact we got at least two very good years out of him as our starting 1st 5 that played 80 and would regularly drop back in defence (like DC and Cruden did) and then create havoc for opposition defences.
For me he’s a better fullback than 1st 5.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:
if we're going to stick with the attack from anywhere game plan...then surely we need to see if people like SS can break open a defence at this level...I would argue BB spent too long coming off the bench and tearing holes through tired teams but not enough games starting trying to do it against fresh teams early in his career
That seems to be ignoring the fact we got at least two very good years out of him as our starting 1st 5 that played 80 and would regularly drop back in defence (like DC and Cruden did) and then create havoc for opposition defences.
For me he’s a better fullback than 1st 5.
@ACT-Crusader i dont meant to say he always been shit when starting or anything, just that it feels that his real stand outgames were early in his career coming off the bench, IMO...and now people are asking why he's not playing like that
I remember going over a highlights video last year and he's wearing 22/23 in a lot of the clips
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It's interesting in Eddie's first test the word is he's going to have Vunivalu at 14 whereas by comparison Fozzie put Jordie at 14 in his first test.
@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
It's interesting in Eddie's first test the word is he's going to have Vunivalu at 14 whereas by comparison Fozzie put Jordie at 14 in his first test.
To be fair to Fozzie, Hansen had started Jordie on the right a couple of times and even on the left wing also, prior to him taking over.
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if we're going to stick with the attack from anywhere game plan...then surely we need to see if people like SS can break open a defence at this level...I would argue BB spent too long coming off the bench and tearing holes through tired teams but not enough games starting trying to do it against fresh teams early in his career
@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:
if we're going to stick with the attack from anywhere game plan...then surely we need to see if people like SS can break open a defence at this level...
There is that, but I think they see the other aspects of his game as being equally important. Want to see him get game time in next few games but think he'll sit this one out as they seem keen to work with him in camp first
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@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
It's interesting in Eddie's first test the word is he's going to have Vunivalu at 14 whereas by comparison Fozzie put Jordie at 14 in his first test.
To be fair to Fozzie, Hansen had started Jordie on the right a couple of times and even on the left wing also, prior to him taking over.
@ACT-Crusader said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
It's interesting in Eddie's first test the word is he's going to have Vunivalu at 14 whereas by comparison Fozzie put Jordie at 14 in his first test.
To be fair to Fozzie, Hansen had started Jordie on the right a couple of times and even on the left wing also, prior to him taking over.
Yup and foster had been basically playing the same stuff since Hansen era.
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@Stargazer said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Get out of bed and announce your team now Fozzie! It's been Thursday here all day and it's already 5 am in BA!
You must be jetlagged, so stop reading the fern and start writing.
- Etha...
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@ACT-Crusader i dont meant to say he always been shit when starting or anything, just that it feels that his real stand outgames were early in his career coming off the bench, IMO...and now people are asking why he's not playing like that
I remember going over a highlights video last year and he's wearing 22/23 in a lot of the clips
@Kiwiwomble I see it a bit different because from 2016-18 I remember a lot of highlights and it was from 1st 5.
Agree some of the really freakish stuff dates back to the pre-2015 RWC era and looks good when you add a bit of rock or hip-hop music, so good for the highlight videos
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Must be time for the @ACT-Crusader team
@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Must be time for the @ACT-Crusader team
And there’s a few surprises too.
I’ll post it before 11:59pm (NZT) because I’m all about traditions that the NZRU seem intent on trashing.
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@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Must be time for the @ACT-Crusader team
And there’s a few surprises too.
I’ll post it before 11:59pm (NZT) because I’m all about traditions that the NZRU seem intent on trashing.
@ACT-Crusader I've heard reports that a few injuries aren't as bad as reported.
T. Highlander is available for selection.
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Everyone is so negative on BB - have you considered the possibility that maybe he’s just keeping some powder dry for the big dance…
@voodoo said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Everyone is so negative on BB - have you considered the possibility that maybe he’s just keeping some powder dry for the big dance???
This would be a plausible theory if he also hadn't been dire in 2022... Unless he's playing a very long game.
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Irrational conservatism has been a fault for far too long
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@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:
if we're going to stick with the attack from anywhere game plan...then surely we need to see if people like SS can break open a defence at this level...
There is that, but I think they see the other aspects of his game as being equally important. Want to see him get game time in next few games but think he'll sit this one out as they seem keen to work with him in camp first
@Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:
if we're going to stick with the attack from anywhere game plan...then surely we need to see if people like SS can break open a defence at this level...
There is that, but I think they see the other aspects of his game as being equally important. Want to see him get game time in next few games but think he'll sit this one out as they seem keen to work with him in camp first
That's a reasonable take to be fair.
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@ACT-Crusader i dont meant to say he always been shit when starting or anything, just that it feels that his real stand outgames were early in his career coming off the bench, IMO...and now people are asking why he's not playing like that
I remember going over a highlights video last year and he's wearing 22/23 in a lot of the clips
@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader i dont meant to say he always been shit when starting or anything, just that it feels that his real stand outgames were early in his career coming off the bench, IMO...and now people are asking why he's not playing like that
I remember going over a highlights video last year and he's wearing 22/23 in a lot of the clips
The 4 tries against Australia era was mental. He was a playstation player and whoever was controlling the joypad was just holding down ∆.
Remember the try against Ireland in Dublin. Took it flat from the back of the scrum and ran 40 meters untouched (well until Sexton clobbered him round the ears in the in-goal area).
Freakish stuff.
It aint happening for him these days...
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Everyone is so negative on BB - have you considered the possibility that maybe he’s just keeping some powder dry for the big dance…
@voodoo said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Everyone is so negative on BB - have you considered the possibility that maybe he’s just keeping some powder dry for the big dance…
Let’s hope it’s a different concentrate to the stuff we were promised in 2019…
