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Argentina v All Blacks

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    #145

    Irrational conservatism

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    • mariner4lifeM Offline
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      #146

      Loooool

      Shit we have some average "elite" players these days

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      • Jailbreak7J Offline
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        Well fuck. I know I said I expected BBBR or SW would be rested, but I did expect to see ONE of them on the bench at least. And if I have to suffer a Frizzle, then Paps, Cane and Ardie better play their arses off. Pleased for Narawa and Lord. Christie is still ginga. Meh.

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          Los Pumas team to face the All Blacks
          Argentina: 15 Emiliano Boffelli, 14 Bautista Delguy, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Lucio Cinti, 11 Mateo Carreras, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou, 8 Rodrigo Bruni, 7 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 4 Matias Alemanno, 3 Lucio Sordoni, 2 Julian Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo
          Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Mayco Vivas, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Pedro Rubiolo, 20 Santiago Grondona, 21 Lautaro Bazan Velez, 22 Nicolas Sanchez, 23 Matias Orlando

          Date: Saturday, July 8
          Venue: Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
          Kick off: 16:10 local (20:10 BST, 19:10 GMT)
          Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
          Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (Australia), Jordan Way (Australia)
          TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)

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          • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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            #149

            Cheika won’t exactly be shitting himself ,

            Anyway , fingers crossed

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              taniwharugby
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              #150

              Most gutted for Stevenson, this was likely his biggest shot for time given he is only there as cover for Telea.

              A few good calls otherwise, based on actual form, some on reputation, however tarnished.

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              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                Los Pumas team to face the All Blacks
                Argentina: 15 Emiliano Boffelli, 14 Bautista Delguy, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Lucio Cinti, 11 Mateo Carreras, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou, 8 Rodrigo Bruni, 7 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 4 Matias Alemanno, 3 Lucio Sordoni, 2 Julian Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo
                Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Mayco Vivas, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Pedro Rubiolo, 20 Santiago Grondona, 21 Lautaro Bazan Velez, 22 Nicolas Sanchez, 23 Matias Orlando

                Date: Saturday, July 8
                Venue: Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
                Kick off: 16:10 local (20:10 BST, 19:10 GMT)
                Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
                Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (Australia), Jordan Way (Australia)
                TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)

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                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                Los Pumas team to face the All Blacks
                Argentina: 15 Emiliano Boffelli, 14 Bautista Delguy, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Lucio Cinti, 11 Mateo Carreras, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou, 8 Rodrigo Bruni, 7 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 4 Matias Alemanno, 3 Lucio Sordoni, 2 Julian Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo
                Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Mayco Vivas, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Pedro Rubiolo, 20 Santiago Grondona, 21 Lautaro Bazan Velez, 22 Nicolas Sanchez, 23 Matias Orlando

                Date: Saturday, July 8
                Venue: Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
                Kick off: 16:10 local (20:10 BST, 19:10 GMT)
                Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
                Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (Australia), Jordan Way (Australia)
                TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)

                Odds on that fella getting carded?

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                • TordahT Tordah

                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                  Los Pumas team to face the All Blacks
                  Argentina: 15 Emiliano Boffelli, 14 Bautista Delguy, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Lucio Cinti, 11 Mateo Carreras, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou, 8 Rodrigo Bruni, 7 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 4 Matias Alemanno, 3 Lucio Sordoni, 2 Julian Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo
                  Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Mayco Vivas, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Pedro Rubiolo, 20 Santiago Grondona, 21 Lautaro Bazan Velez, 22 Nicolas Sanchez, 23 Matias Orlando

                  Date: Saturday, July 8
                  Venue: Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
                  Kick off: 16:10 local (20:10 BST, 19:10 GMT)
                  Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
                  Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (Australia), Jordan Way (Australia)
                  TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)

                  Odds on that fella getting carded?

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                  #152

                  @Tordah said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                  Los Pumas team to face the All Blacks
                  Argentina: 15 Emiliano Boffelli, 14 Bautista Delguy, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Lucio Cinti, 11 Mateo Carreras, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou, 8 Rodrigo Bruni, 7 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 4 Matias Alemanno, 3 Lucio Sordoni, 2 Julian Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo
                  Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Mayco Vivas, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Pedro Rubiolo, 20 Santiago Grondona, 21 Lautaro Bazan Velez, 22 Nicolas Sanchez, 23 Matias Orlando

                  Date: Saturday, July 8
                  Venue: Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
                  Kick off: 16:10 local (20:10 BST, 19:10 GMT)
                  Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
                  Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (Australia), Jordan Way (Australia)
                  TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)

                  Odds on that fella getting carded?

                  Similar to laulala. Scott Barrett will really have to stand up, coles will have to niggle like a bastard, Jordie needs to stay on the pitch playing like last year, and I hope to god that BB and Clarke find some mojo.

                  Also go DMac

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                    #153

                    Weak defence down the left side in particular is a worry. RI And CC positional defensive work has not been great.. Usually saved by Reikos pace, but that's often after the damage has been done.
                    And I am also not convinced BB is a strong defensive 15.
                    Hope Lord has a good game, and Frizzel needs to show why he's even in the squad as SB can't do it on his own..

                    Can see Pumas winning this one.

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                    • Dan54D Offline
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                      #154

                      May not be team I would of picked, but no probs really, it's WC year, and we got Boks next week, so guess they want to look at a few thing? I a little surpised but pleased that Lord has got a start, makes sense to see how DMac goes running the ship too, no real big prob with a fairly heavy start for players who have not played for a few weeks, freshen up won't hurt them. Perhaps Stevenson may have been worth a look, but as he really only injury replacement for Telea who seems is close to right, maybe he will be out of squad nest week anyway.

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                      • Darth SaderD Offline
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                        #155

                        Makes sense to see how D Mac runs the ship?? How many games do you think we have before the World Cup? If BB is a FB why wasn’t he playing there all SR. I get that some players need a rest, but this is a weird team. Ofa and Casey’s little brother should have been gone a long time ago. I think Fozzie is up to his same old tricks and we’re going to see the same old results. I would love to be proven wrong.

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                        • M Mattasaurus

                          Weak defence down the left side in particular is a worry. RI And CC positional defensive work has not been great.. Usually saved by Reikos pace, but that's often after the damage has been done.
                          And I am also not convinced BB is a strong defensive 15.
                          Hope Lord has a good game, and Frizzel needs to show why he's even in the squad as SB can't do it on his own..

                          Can see Pumas winning this one.

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                          #156

                          @Mattasaurus said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                          Weak defence down the left side in particular is a worry. RI And CC positional defensive work has not been great.. Usually saved by Reikos pace, but that's often after the damage has been done.
                          And I am also not convinced BB is a strong defensive 15.
                          Hope Lord has a good game, and Frizzel needs to show why he's even in the squad as SB can't do it on his own..

                          Can see Pumas winning this one.

                          Another foster first 🙄

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                            I’m gutted for Stevenson. What does that guy have to do to get a break?

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              Beauden at 15.

                              That will go down well

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                              @KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                              Beauden at 15.

                              That will go down well

                              That was always going to happen.

                              Again, he can't be rated as a 1st 5 if Mo'unga is on the bench.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                Beauden at 15.

                                That will go down well

                                That was always going to happen.

                                Again, he can't be rated as a 1st 5 if Mo'unga is on the bench.

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                                @Bovidae said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                Beauden at 15.

                                That will go down well

                                That was always going to happen.

                                Again, he can't be rated as a 1st 5 if Mo'unga is on the bench.

                                Small mercies

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                                • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                                  Well fuck. I know I said I expected BBBR or SW would be rested, but I did expect to see ONE of them on the bench at least. And if I have to suffer a Frizzle, then Paps, Cane and Ardie better play their arses off. Pleased for Narawa and Lord. Christie is still ginga. Meh.

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                                  Bovidae
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                                  @Jailbreak7 Whitelock was never going to play as he hadn't been involved in training in NZ.

                                  Hopefully this selection means that many of the players not in the 23 are playing SA.

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                                  • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

                                    I’m gutted for Stevenson. What does that guy have to do to get a break?

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                                    @Darth-Sader said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                    I’m gutted for Stevenson. What does that guy have to do to get a break?

                                    I’m guessing if telia was available he and narewa would have had a start each in these first two games at 14 ,

                                    Because he’s brought in as cover for telia maybe he’s a chance in the second game at 14, but I wasn’t optimistic for him at fb considering they thought they had that position covered with their original selections

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                                    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                      @Darth-Sader said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                      I’m gutted for Stevenson. What does that guy have to do to get a break?

                                      I’m guessing if telia was available he and narewa would have had a start each in these first two games at 14 ,

                                      Because he’s brought in as cover for telia maybe he’s a chance in the second game at 14, but I wasn’t optimistic for him at fb considering they thought they had that position covered with their original selections

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                                      taniwharugby
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                                      @kiwiinmelb Telea is in Argentina and has been training, so assume he is a shot at starting next week as I doubt they will give SS a shot v SA...poor fella has been probably one of the best players in Super and NPC in the past year or so and cant get a shot.

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                                        Feels like a selection trying to prove the depth of rugby in NZ. Or something middle of the road, because it just feels very average.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @kiwiinmelb Telea is in Argentina and has been training, so assume he is a shot at starting next week as I doubt they will give SS a shot v SA...poor fella has been probably one of the best players in Super and NPC in the past year or so and cant get a shot.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                          @kiwiinmelb Telea is in Argentina and has been training, so assume he is a shot at starting next week as I doubt they will give SS a shot v SA...poor fella has been probably one of the best players in Super and NPC in the past year or so and cant get a shot.

                                          Unless their planning was also to give Jordan a crack at fb , and the migraine issues continue, a door may open there .

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