Argentina v All Blacks
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I seriously don't care if and when we lose this year. But, I'd hope everyone has the shackles off, play like a NZ SR Derby match and reward players in form. On that basis WJ/SS/LF/MT/SF/EN/RM/DM are regular starters.
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@Bones said in Argentina v All Blacks:
I'm not sure throwing in a bunch of rusty players instead is the answer.
You could well be right. I just referenced a comment made by someone else to get my head around Foster's selections.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Bones said in Argentina v All Blacks:
I'm not sure throwing in a bunch of rusty players instead is the answer.
You could well be right. I just referenced a comment made by someone else to get my head around Foster's selections.
You're underplaying it to a tee fella
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Reckon we’re focusing too much on the ingredients and not the recipe here. Jase Ryan is coming in with a whole off-season of prep and Uncle Joe bending Fozzy’s ear. If the Argies bring the same system the ABs should know what to do but the key will be reading and reacting to anything different.
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Reckon we’re focusing too much on the ingredients and not the recipe here. Jase Ryan is coming in with a whole off-season of prep and Uncle Joe bending Fozzy’s ear. If the Argies bring the same system the ABs should know what to do but the key will be reading and reacting to anything different.
@game_film in 5 years at the helm, Fozzie is going to change things up now?
He's been playing the ultimate long game, hustling everyone with the sole goal of the RWC...
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@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Haha no accounting for taste is there,
I think your selection standard is of a very low standard.Yep and you know what mate, it's probably as good as anyone's on here, and doesn't make an iota of difference because we never have to be proved right or wrong.
That is a matter of opinion if you think that selection v Argentina is a good one then I think you have no idea at all.Just whatever Foster does or selects is all unicorns and Rainbows as far you are concerned.
Selections that continually fail is not good selecting and once again Foster will stuff up this year like the last 3 years.
Thank Fuck he is gone for next season.He repeats the same mistakes every year.@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Haha no accounting for taste is there,
I think your selection standard is of a very low standard.Yep and you know what mate, it's probably as good as anyone's on here, and doesn't make an iota of difference because we never have to be proved right or wrong.
That is a matter of opinion if you think that selection v Argentina is a good one then I think you have no idea at all.Just whatever Foster does or selects is all unicorns and Rainbows as far you are concerned.
Selections that continually fail is not good selecting and once again Foster will stuff up this year like the last 3 years.
Thank Fuck he is gone for next season.He repeats the same mistakes every year.Of course it a matter of opinion, and does it worry me what you think, not an iota. I have seen nothing that would indicate you are more expert than the rest of us.
I actually like the fact that some of the risks are taken early, and I see I like what Ryan is trying with forwards, Lord (and I think it's because he a 2m+) , have a look at him and decide whether he or Vai'i going forward. Same with Frizell sort out whether he fits in with his game plan for forwards etc. Personally I would of picked SS myself ahead of BB , but I certainly don't pretend to know why or wherefors of why they been selected, Same with Clarke, but I also rightly or wrongly listen to thoughts of people who are involved at higher level and realise their thoughts are different from mine , and a lot because of how the game is played at higher levels.
Also think another reason for selections is because (and I don't like it) the whole season is aimed towards WC.
And it amuses me you think only Foster selects team.
I will add the one I do listen (well probably a fan of) in coaching group is Jason Ryan, tend to listen to what he says and admit will also take a shit load more note of him than anyone on any forum. -
@game_film in 5 years at the helm, Fozzie is going to change things up now?
He's been playing the ultimate long game, hustling everyone with the sole goal of the RWC...
@taniwharugby said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@game_film in 5 years at the helm, Fozzie is going to change things up now?
He's been playing the ultimate long game, hustling everyone with the sole goal of the RWC...
Haha mate he's stuffed up then, if he planned over 5 years he only been at helm for coming uo 4!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Haha no accounting for taste is there,
I think your selection standard is of a very low standard.Yep and you know what mate, it's probably as good as anyone's on here, and doesn't make an iota of difference because we never have to be proved right or wrong.
That is a matter of opinion if you think that selection v Argentina is a good one then I think you have no idea at all.Just whatever Foster does or selects is all unicorns and Rainbows as far you are concerned.
Selections that continually fail is not good selecting and once again Foster will stuff up this year like the last 3 years.
Thank Fuck he is gone for next season.He repeats the same mistakes every year.Of course it a matter of opinion, and does it worry me what you think, not an iota. I have seen nothing that would indicate you are more expert than the rest of us.
I actually like the fact that some of the risks are taken early, and I see I like what Ryan is trying with forwards, Lord (and I think it's because he a 2m+) , have a look at him and decide whether he or Vai'i going forward. Same with Frizell sort out whether he fits in with his game plan for forwards etc. Personally I would of picked SS myself ahead of BB , but I certainly don't pretend to know why or wherefors of why they been selected, Same with Clarke, but I also rightly or wrongly listen to thoughts of people who are involved at higher level and realise their thoughts are different from mine , and a lot because of how the game is played at higher levels.
Also think another reason for selections is because (and I don't like it) the whole season is aimed towards WC.
And it amuses me you think only Foster selects team.
I will add the one I do listen (well probably a fan of) in coaching group is Jason Ryan, tend to listen to what he says and admit will also take a shit load more note of him than anyone on any forum.@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Same with Frizell sort out whether he fits in with his game plan for forwards etc
You reckon we will know by 2025, or will we need more time?
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@taniwharugby said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@game_film in 5 years at the helm, Fozzie is going to change things up now?
He's been playing the ultimate long game, hustling everyone with the sole goal of the RWC...
Haha mate he's stuffed up then, if he planned over 5 years he only been at helm for coming uo 4!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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@Dan54 well he has been part of the set up for far longer and IIRC Hansen said he had more control in those latter years too, but either way, I don't think we will see any huge changes, as much as I'd love to...
@taniwharugby No mate, I was just having you on because of the 5 years at the helm, as the WC cycle he been in charge is only 4 years, was not serious at all!
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I really hope the snail trail is not this visible on the match Jersey, and this is just their training shirts. Because in no way is that now a plain black shirt
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/resizer/a2NRfIiVdc-RDKsQS6CTmerwGpU=/1440x960/smart/filters:quality(70)/cloudfront-ap-southeast-2.images.arcpublishing.com/nzme/MDRAMV2TW5CBBHRVKKMULZEZB4.jpg -
I really hope the snail trail is not this visible on the match Jersey, and this is just their training shirts. Because in no way is that now a plain black shirt
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/resizer/a2NRfIiVdc-RDKsQS6CTmerwGpU=/1440x960/smart/filters:quality(70)/cloudfront-ap-southeast-2.images.arcpublishing.com/nzme/MDRAMV2TW5CBBHRVKKMULZEZB4.jpgJeez those shirts look bloody awful. Like a child's gone mad with chalk on a snooker table.
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@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Haha no accounting for taste is there,
I think your selection standard is of a very low standard.Yep and you know what mate, it's probably as good as anyone's on here, and doesn't make an iota of difference because we never have to be proved right or wrong.
That is a matter of opinion if you think that selection v Argentina is a good one then I think you have no idea at all.Just whatever Foster does or selects is all unicorns and Rainbows as far you are concerned.
Selections that continually fail is not good selecting and once again Foster will stuff up this year like the last 3 years.
Thank Fuck he is gone for next season.He repeats the same mistakes every year.Of course it a matter of opinion, and does it worry me what you think, not an iota. I have seen nothing that would indicate you are more expert than the rest of us.
I actually like the fact that some of the risks are taken early, and I see I like what Ryan is trying with forwards, Lord (and I think it's because he a 2m+) , have a look at him and decide whether he or Vai'i going forward. Same with Frizell sort out whether he fits in with his game plan for forwards etc. Personally I would of picked SS myself ahead of BB , but I certainly don't pretend to know why or wherefors of why they been selected, Same with Clarke, but I also rightly or wrongly listen to thoughts of people who are involved at higher level and realise their thoughts are different from mine , and a lot because of how the game is played at higher levels.
Also think another reason for selections is because (and I don't like it) the whole season is aimed towards WC.
And it amuses me you think only Foster selects team.
I will add the one I do listen (well probably a fan of) in coaching group is Jason Ryan, tend to listen to what he says and admit will also take a shit load more note of him than anyone on any forum. -
@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Haha no accounting for taste is there,
I think your selection standard is of a very low standard.Yep and you know what mate, it's probably as good as anyone's on here, and doesn't make an iota of difference because we never have to be proved right or wrong.
That is a matter of opinion if you think that selection v Argentina is a good one then I think you have no idea at all.Just whatever Foster does or selects is all unicorns and Rainbows as far you are concerned.
Selections that continually fail is not good selecting and once again Foster will stuff up this year like the last 3 years.
Thank Fuck he is gone for next season.He repeats the same mistakes every year.Of course it a matter of opinion, and does it worry me what you think, not an iota. I have seen nothing that would indicate you are more expert than the rest of us.
I actually like the fact that some of the risks are taken early, and I see I like what Ryan is trying with forwards, Lord (and I think it's because he a 2m+) , have a look at him and decide whether he or Vai'i going forward. Same with Frizell sort out whether he fits in with his game plan for forwards etc. Personally I would of picked SS myself ahead of BB , but I certainly don't pretend to know why or wherefors of why they been selected, Same with Clarke, but I also rightly or wrongly listen to thoughts of people who are involved at higher level and realise their thoughts are different from mine , and a lot because of how the game is played at higher levels.
Also think another reason for selections is because (and I don't like it) the whole season is aimed towards WC.
And it amuses me you think only Foster selects team.
I will add the one I do listen (well probably a fan of) in coaching group is Jason Ryan, tend to listen to what he says and admit will also take a shit load more note of him than anyone on any forum. -
@game_film in 5 years at the helm, Fozzie is going to change things up now?
He's been playing the ultimate long game, hustling everyone with the sole goal of the RWC...
@taniwharugby he doesn’t have to change, more so that the other coaches will develop the team as you’d expect them to do based on their previous success.
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Reckon we’re focusing too much on the ingredients and not the recipe here. Jase Ryan is coming in with a whole off-season of prep and Uncle Joe bending Fozzy’s ear. If the Argies bring the same system the ABs should know what to do but the key will be reading and reacting to anything different.
@game_film said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Reckon we’re focusing too much on the ingredients and not the recipe here.
You can't make a good meal with low quality ingredients.
I'd love to think that we have a new solid plan about how we intend to play. A better kicking game from the back perhaps -- but then we wouldn't select Caleb and Beauden.
To me the same selections indicates the same game plan. DMac isn't really new, and we have seen how hesitant Foster was to even replace an underperforming Barrett with Mo'unga.
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@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Haha no accounting for taste is there,
I think your selection standard is of a very low standard.Yep and you know what mate, it's probably as good as anyone's on here, and doesn't make an iota of difference because we never have to be proved right or wrong.
That is a matter of opinion if you think that selection v Argentina is a good one then I think you have no idea at all.Just whatever Foster does or selects is all unicorns and Rainbows as far you are concerned.
Selections that continually fail is not good selecting and once again Foster will stuff up this year like the last 3 years.
Thank Fuck he is gone for next season.He repeats the same mistakes every year.Of course it a matter of opinion, and does it worry me what you think, not an iota. I have seen nothing that would indicate you are more expert than the rest of us.
I actually like the fact that some of the risks are taken early, and I see I like what Ryan is trying with forwards, Lord (and I think it's because he a 2m+) , have a look at him and decide whether he or Vai'i going forward. Same with Frizell sort out whether he fits in with his game plan for forwards etc. Personally I would of picked SS myself ahead of BB , but I certainly don't pretend to know why or wherefors of why they been selected, Same with Clarke, but I also rightly or wrongly listen to thoughts of people who are involved at higher level and realise their thoughts are different from mine , and a lot because of how the game is played at higher levels.
Also think another reason for selections is because (and I don't like it) the whole season is aimed towards WC.
And it amuses me you think only Foster selects team.
I will add the one I do listen (well probably a fan of) in coaching group is Jason Ryan, tend to listen to what he says and admit will also take a shit load more note of him than anyone on any forum. -
@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Haha no accounting for taste is there,
I think your selection standard is of a very low standard.Yep and you know what mate, it's probably as good as anyone's on here, and doesn't make an iota of difference because we never have to be proved right or wrong.
That is a matter of opinion if you think that selection v Argentina is a good one then I think you have no idea at all.Just whatever Foster does or selects is all unicorns and Rainbows as far you are concerned.
Selections that continually fail is not good selecting and once again Foster will stuff up this year like the last 3 years.
Thank Fuck he is gone for next season.He repeats the same mistakes every year.Of course it a matter of opinion, and does it worry me what you think, not an iota. I have seen nothing that would indicate you are more expert than the rest of us.
I actually like the fact that some of the risks are taken early, and I see I like what Ryan is trying with forwards, Lord (and I think it's because he a 2m+) , have a look at him and decide whether he or Vai'i going forward. Same with Frizell sort out whether he fits in with his game plan for forwards etc. Personally I would of picked SS myself ahead of BB , but I certainly don't pretend to know why or wherefors of why they been selected, Same with Clarke, but I also rightly or wrongly listen to thoughts of people who are involved at higher level and realise their thoughts are different from mine , and a lot because of how the game is played at higher levels.
Also think another reason for selections is because (and I don't like it) the whole season is aimed towards WC.
And it amuses me you think only Foster selects team.
I will add the one I do listen (well probably a fan of) in coaching group is Jason Ryan, tend to listen to what he says and admit will also take a shit load more note of him than anyone on any forum.@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
I will add the one I do listen (well probably a fan of) in coaching group is Jason Ryan, tend to listen to what he says and admit will also take a shit load more note of him than anyone on any forum.
Agree with this bit he is an honest bloke.
But no one is telling you to believe anyone,Dont comment on my Foster posts if it upsets you.
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@MajorPom said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Man, Ball. Play the latter.
Huh? He said he doesn't listen to people on forums, what's wrong with my query?
@Bones said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@MajorPom said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Man, Ball. Play the latter.
Huh? He said he doesn't listen to people on forums, what's wrong with my query?
It’s a web forum. Differing views / takes are welcome.
Your question is fair, but crosses the line to personal in my view.
