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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @KiwiMurph That's a fair assessment at the Blues - he built a good team, but hasn't quite got them over the line (except in the Smash the Aussies version). And they've gone backwards this year. Compared to previous versions of the Blues he's been pretty good, but maybe leaving at the right time.

    Razor has picked him and clearly knows what he's getting, so I think that's a pretty solid endorsement.

    He also didn't go directly to the Blues - he finished with the Crusaders in 2017 and went to the Blues in 2019, and was only supposed to be an assistant to Tana.

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    @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2024:

    Razor has picked him as an assistant coach (alongside another assistant coach who is helping the attack in Holland) and clearly knows what he's getting, so I think that's a pretty solid endorsement as an assistant coach.

    Fixed.

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      https://twitter.com/crusadersrugby/status/1674313591313551366

      https://twitter.com/Munsterrugby/status/1674312254953598976

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        https://twitter.com/crusadersrugby/status/1674313591313551366

        https://twitter.com/Munsterrugby/status/1674312254953598976

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        @Stargazer

        No ABs. And during the 6 nations v Munster

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          @Stargazer

          No ABs. And during the 6 nations v Munster

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          @Winger Yep, Ireland play France (away) on 2 February and England play Wales (home) on 10 February 2024.

          These games are played during our preseason, so an under-cooked Crusaders team without ABs and Munster and Bristol Bears teams without their test players (but mid-season).

          It will still attract crowds though.

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          • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

            Came down as a student is my understanding. I think he had a decent 2019 season. Had a stormer in 2020 albeit covid interrupted. Then made Otago 2021. Probably an issue with not coming down as an acadamey player

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            @SouthernMann said in Super Rugby 2024:

            Came down as a student is my understanding. I think he had a decent 2019 season. Had a stormer in 2020 albeit covid interrupted. Then made Otago 2021. Probably an issue with not coming down as an acadamey player

            Came down to Otago Uni on a rugby scholarship, but not through the Highlanders or Otago... I don't even know if he was in the academy. Just one of those guys who might have matured a little bit later, because I could be wrong, but I think he was initially more of an openside flanker, but he was quality as an 8 for Otago and should have been used way earlier. First in the Otago squad in 2021 I believe? Really good kid, and wish him the best with the Crusaders. Was the right move for him.

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            • frugbyF frugby

              @SouthernMann said in Super Rugby 2024:

              Came down as a student is my understanding. I think he had a decent 2019 season. Had a stormer in 2020 albeit covid interrupted. Then made Otago 2021. Probably an issue with not coming down as an acadamey player

              Came down to Otago Uni on a rugby scholarship, but not through the Highlanders or Otago... I don't even know if he was in the academy. Just one of those guys who might have matured a little bit later, because I could be wrong, but I think he was initially more of an openside flanker, but he was quality as an 8 for Otago and should have been used way earlier. First in the Otago squad in 2021 I believe? Really good kid, and wish him the best with the Crusaders. Was the right move for him.

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              @frugby said in Super Rugby 2024:

              @SouthernMann said in Super Rugby 2024:

              Came down as a student is my understanding. I think he had a decent 2019 season. Had a stormer in 2020 albeit covid interrupted. Then made Otago 2021. Probably an issue with not coming down as an acadamey player

              Came down to Otago Uni on a rugby scholarship, but not through the Highlanders or Otago... I don't even know if he was in the academy. Just one of those guys who might have matured a little bit later, because I could be wrong, but I think he was initially more of an openside flanker, but he was quality as an 8 for Otago and should have been used way earlier. First in the Otago squad in 2021 I believe? Really good kid, and wish him the best with the Crusaders. Was the right move for him.

              Play for the champions of the team that finished 9th. Seems an easy choice.

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              • WingerW Winger

                @Stargazer

                No ABs. And during the 6 nations v Munster

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                @Winger said in Super Rugby 2024:

                @Stargazer

                No ABs. And during the 6 nations v Munster

                Yeah crusaders B (with no game time) vs NH B with game time. Saders will lose to Munster, beat the almost relegated Bristol in a pretty average pair of games

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                  the five New Zealand Super Rugby Clubs having signed a collective five year agreement with Australasian apparel brand – Classic.
                  The partnership will see each club expand their range and offer greater official and supporter apparel options for fans, including the potential of heritage or themed jerseys and a range of training and on-field items.

                  https://www.blues.rugby/blues-rugby-news/expanded-apparel-range-key-to-new-classic-partnership

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                    #236

                    im actually kind of excited we might might get some cool stuff next year...might actually get some retro jerseys and better supports gear

                    looks like exactly the same announcement on the Highlander page

                    https://thehighlanders.co.nz/news/expanded-apparel-range-key-to-new-classic-partnership/

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                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                      the five New Zealand Super Rugby Clubs having signed a collective five year agreement with Australasian apparel brand – Classic.
                      The partnership will see each club expand their range and offer greater official and supporter apparel options for fans, including the potential of heritage or themed jerseys and a range of training and on-field items.

                      https://www.blues.rugby/blues-rugby-news/expanded-apparel-range-key-to-new-classic-partnership

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                      @Daffy-Jaffy all teams were with Adidas this year werent they (and since 1999, which at the time was a full kit out?) so is interesting they are all moving away but ABs staying.

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                        There will be some discount prices on the Adidas gear.

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                          i support the sharks in the NRL so had a quick look at their store...loads of cool stuff, hope we can get even a fraction of that range

                          https://store.sharks.com.au/

                          big fan of the heritage jersey template

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                          looks like they have 24 different types of hat (caps, beanies etc), more likely to grab one of those than a jersey now days

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                            I had heard about the change to Classic late last year and was sworn to secrecy. From what I've heard, they very nearly re-signed with Adidas but changed their minds last minute, Adidas were filthy. Source comes from a jersey designer for one of the super teams.

                            I've kinda grown to like Adidas but it doesn't bother me who gets it as long as it looks good and fits good, seems like Classic have some good ambition with gear though.

                            Apparently also the reason we have never got heritage jerseys based off the 97/98/99 designs is because CCC still own the designs so unsure how that will work out with Classic moving forward.

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                            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                              I had heard about the change to Classic late last year and was sworn to secrecy. From what I've heard, they very nearly re-signed with Adidas but changed their minds last minute, Adidas were filthy. Source comes from a jersey designer for one of the super teams.

                              I've kinda grown to like Adidas but it doesn't bother me who gets it as long as it looks good and fits good, seems like Classic have some good ambition with gear though.

                              Apparently also the reason we have never got heritage jerseys based off the 97/98/99 designs is because CCC still own the designs so unsure how that will work out with Classic moving forward.

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                              @Yeetyaah i wonder why they take so long to announce these things

                              I feel Adidas had been phoning it for years so happy for someone else to have a go

                              ive heard that before about CCC still owning the rights to the designs. There is a couple of questions i always have about that though, the Chiefs/adidas did bring out a heritage jersey a couple of years back...so worst case CCC seem have been open to it before

                              but, the bigger question. In every case ive know with a service provider...its the end client that owns the final product, so my understanding would be CCC might be able to own the IP for the creation of the jerseys, any manufacturing secrets or whatever...but what was actually produced should belong to NZR/Franchises.

                              In the case of the Highlanders Tartan Jersey, At the time it was advertised as the Highlanders Official Tartan, officially made for the Highlanders by the Scottish Register of Tartans...so i dont see how CCC could own that

                              all very weird and if CCC does own some sort of rights over previous designs it seems very unusual and someone at NZR fucked up

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                                @Yeetyaah i wonder why they take so long to announce these things

                                I feel Adidas had been phoning it for years so happy for someone else to have a go

                                ive heard that before about CCC still owning the rights to the designs. There is a couple of questions i always have about that though, the Chiefs/adidas did bring out a heritage jersey a couple of years back...so worst case CCC seem have been open to it before

                                but, the bigger question. In every case ive know with a service provider...its the end client that owns the final product, so my understanding would be CCC might be able to own the IP for the creation of the jerseys, any manufacturing secrets or whatever...but what was actually produced should belong to NZR/Franchises.

                                In the case of the Highlanders Tartan Jersey, At the time it was advertised as the Highlanders Official Tartan, officially made for the Highlanders by the Scottish Register of Tartans...so i dont see how CCC could own that

                                all very weird and if CCC does own some sort of rights over previous designs it seems very unusual and someone at NZR fucked up

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                                @Kiwiwomble some of those early super rugby jersies were awful!

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                                  @Kiwiwomble some of those early super rugby jersies were awful!

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                                  @taniwharugby definitely a case of nostalgia rather than outright beauty 😉

                                  rather than the tartan one i would love a 96 jersey...just good old fashioned rugby jersey stripes

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @Yeetyaah i wonder why they take so long to announce these things

                                    I feel Adidas had been phoning it for years so happy for someone else to have a go

                                    ive heard that before about CCC still owning the rights to the designs. There is a couple of questions i always have about that though, the Chiefs/adidas did bring out a heritage jersey a couple of years back...so worst case CCC seem have been open to it before

                                    but, the bigger question. In every case ive know with a service provider...its the end client that owns the final product, so my understanding would be CCC might be able to own the IP for the creation of the jerseys, any manufacturing secrets or whatever...but what was actually produced should belong to NZR/Franchises.

                                    In the case of the Highlanders Tartan Jersey, At the time it was advertised as the Highlanders Official Tartan, officially made for the Highlanders by the Scottish Register of Tartans...so i dont see how CCC could own that

                                    all very weird and if CCC does own some sort of rights over previous designs it seems very unusual and someone at NZR fucked up

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    Chiefs/adidas did bring out a heritage jersey a couple of years back

                                    Āe that was the 96 jersey, that's why I specified 97/98/99. I'm only going off what I've been told so I don't have all the answers.

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                                      Curious to see what jersey the Highlanders come out with for the culture round... perhaps that is where you might see a more tartan design?

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                                      • frugbyF frugby

                                        Curious to see what jersey the Highlanders come out with for the culture round... perhaps that is where you might see a more tartan design?

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                                        @frugby thats kind of the problem with the NZ jersey...there is little iconic about any of them, generally just a colour...i think thats why those late 90's CCC ones get reference so much....theyre the only ones lots of people remember

                                        Thats why i'd be happy to bring some rugby patterns back, stripes or quarters

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                                          I'll take a hunch and say the 2000 kit will be the one for heritage round more or less

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