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Otago 2023

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    SouthernMann
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    I'm interested to see who the captain will be. Sean Withy could be a decent candidate, good leader and will be in the side long-term. At loosehead, Saula Ma'u last listed at loosehead for Harbour recently.

    Will Gilbert, Leslie and Hurley be the 10s to cover should Millar or Faleafaga go down?

    The poorly written ODT article this morning said Lentjes was out for the season, and it was unknown how long Timu will be goooone for.

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      I just hope Naholo is one of these guys that lifts his game the high he plays (if he hasn't even been locking in a club spot) otherwise ia bit of a waste, im sure other guys will get a shot but there is somethign to be said for being "named in the squad"

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        I don't think Naholo is going to play a huge amount of rugby. Will be around the squad, may be a few games here and there, but more being a guiding hand to the likes of Asi and Hurley. I would have preferred we had another outside back there alongside him, but may be the budget didn't allow it.

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          Withy and Gilbert to be co-captains I believe.

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            Withy and Gilbert to be co-captains I believe.

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            @frugby is that intel or just what you'd like? im on board as have both got a couple of season under their belt locally now and should be starters every week

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              I don't think Naholo is going to play a huge amount of rugby. Will be around the squad, may be a few games here and there, but more being a guiding hand to the likes of Asi and Hurley. I would have preferred we had another outside back there alongside him, but may be the budget didn't allow it.

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              @SouthernMann said in Otago 2023:

              I don't think Naholo is going to play a huge amount of rugby. Will be around the squad, may be a few games here and there, but more being a guiding hand to the likes of Asi and Hurley. I would have preferred we had another outside back there alongside him, but may be the budget didn't allow it.

              i kind of hpe your wrong....i just dislike the idea of signing someone to a full contract if their not down for full commitment

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                @frugby is that intel or just what you'd like? im on board as have both got a couple of season under their belt locally now and should be starters every week

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                @Kiwiwomble Not sure, you tell me :winking_face:

                This is what I have been told... that said, I had guessed this would be the case before being told, so hardly big info. The only other candidate off the top of my head was Henry Bell... the rest of them have little to no leadership experience/vibe to them.

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                  Those two are the logical options. Only other could have potentially been Jermaine Ainsley. The likes of Haig and Stodart are captains down the line, but not for a long time.

                  @Kiwiwomble in terms of Naholo, I think he is committed. I just think Otago will be leaning heavily on his intellectual property to assist in the development of others. Just think they will likely use Asi, Nareki and Te Hiwi ahead of him on the wing.

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                    frugby
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                    Otago play Ta$man in 23 Days... could this be the 23?

                    1. Abraham Pole
                    2. Henry Bell
                    3. Jermaine Ainsley
                    4. Josh Dickson
                    5. Will Tucker
                    6. Oli Haig
                    7. Sean Withy (cc)
                    8. Christian Lio-Willie
                    9. James Arscott
                    10. Cam Millar
                    11. Jona Nareki
                    12. Thomas Umaga-Jensen
                    13. Jake Te Hiwi
                    14. Waisake Naholo
                    15. Sam Gilbert
                    16. Ricky Jackson
                    17. Rohan Wingham
                    18. Saula Ma'u
                    19. Fabian Holland/Josh Hill
                    20. Sam Fischli
                    21. Nathan Hastie
                    22. Ajay Faleafaga
                    23. Jeremiah Asi

                    I expect them to start the season quite conservatively selection wise, especially with a couple of tricky fixtures to get us started.

                    • Ainsley and Ma'u very interchangeable
                    • Holland the best lock we have, but he will only just be coming to fitness, so expect him to be eased back into it
                    • Stodart likely to come into the fray as the season goes on, but he is only young... the starters are our best three by a margin IMO
                    • Hastie is probably better than Arscott, but conservatively, he has never actually played an NPC game
                    • Millar should be fit, if not Faleafaga will start and Hurley will take 22.
                    • Gilbert could/will be used in midfield as the season goes on, but conservatively, he should start the season at 15
                    • Waisake has the experience, and Asi has played all of his rugby off the left wing I believe... Hurley, has he ever played wing? Naholo should get first crack I'd think.
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                      Also, when TUJ and Te Hiwi inevitably get injured, I seriously think you could see this as a backline:

                      1. Asi
                      2. Gilbert
                      3. Nareki
                      4. Naholo
                      5. Hurley
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                        SouthernMann
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                        Agree with the forward pack, I'm just tossing up between where Gilbert sees himself v where he is needed to play for Otago. I also hope they start Hastie, Arscott makes me as excited as a Farmers catalogue. Hastie looks a better player. I don't want to see Tossing up between Te Hiwi and Naholo on the wing, leaning towards Naholo if we give the midget Hurley the first go at 15.

                        I'd be leaning towards

                        9 Hastie
                        10 Millar
                        11 Nareki
                        12 Gilbert
                        13 Umaga Jensen
                        14 Te Hiwi/Naholo
                        15 Hurley

                        21 Arscott
                        22 Faleafaga
                        23 Naholo/Te Hiwi

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                          would definitely feel less concerned about hurley's size if he has people like Naholo, Gilbert and TUJ in front of him

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                            Like the new jersey

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                              Oli Haig has had a leg operation and is going to be out for the season. Josh Dickson apparently being viewed as a potential blindside option.

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                                SouthernMann
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                                That is gutting to hear. Haig is one of my favourite young players. Top talent. Dickson could be interesting at blindside. Wouldn't want to push an entire season on someone like Stodart.

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                                  Yeah, Haig is out, Te Hiwi and Hurley were also out for GI a couple of weeks back and apparently Finn isn't too good either

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                                    Yeah, Haig is out, Te Hiwi and Hurley were also out for GI a couple of weeks back and apparently Finn isn't too good either

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                                    @NateHill74 said in Otago 2023:

                                    Yeah, Haig is out, Te Hiwi and Hurley were also out for GI a couple of weeks back and apparently Finn isn't too good either

                                    Wonder if it could mean a chance for the Southern midget Mckenzie Haugh could get an opportunity with Hurley out.

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                                      @NateHill74 said in Otago 2023:

                                      Yeah, Haig is out, Te Hiwi and Hurley were also out for GI a couple of weeks back and apparently Finn isn't too good either

                                      Wonder if it could mean a chance for the Southern midget Mckenzie Haugh could get an opportunity with Hurley out.

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                                      @SouthernMann Mackenzie Haugh would be an Otago player already but he keeps saying he doesn't like rugby that much and he doesn't want to play top level for Otago

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                                        @SouthernMann Mackenzie Haugh would be an Otago player already but he keeps saying he doesn't like rugby that much and he doesn't want to play top level for Otago

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                                        @NateHill74 said in Otago 2023:

                                        @SouthernMann Mackenzie Haugh would be an Otago player already but he keeps saying he doesn't like rugby that much and he doesn't want to play top level for Otago

                                        He's in the development squad, so should signal he is reasonably keen?

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                                          frugby
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                                          Tom Sanders is a great pickup for Otago.

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