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Otago 2023

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    SouthernMann
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    I don't think Naholo is going to play a huge amount of rugby. Will be around the squad, may be a few games here and there, but more being a guiding hand to the likes of Asi and Hurley. I would have preferred we had another outside back there alongside him, but may be the budget didn't allow it.

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      Withy and Gilbert to be co-captains I believe.

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        Withy and Gilbert to be co-captains I believe.

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        @frugby is that intel or just what you'd like? im on board as have both got a couple of season under their belt locally now and should be starters every week

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          I don't think Naholo is going to play a huge amount of rugby. Will be around the squad, may be a few games here and there, but more being a guiding hand to the likes of Asi and Hurley. I would have preferred we had another outside back there alongside him, but may be the budget didn't allow it.

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          @SouthernMann said in Otago 2023:

          I don't think Naholo is going to play a huge amount of rugby. Will be around the squad, may be a few games here and there, but more being a guiding hand to the likes of Asi and Hurley. I would have preferred we had another outside back there alongside him, but may be the budget didn't allow it.

          i kind of hpe your wrong....i just dislike the idea of signing someone to a full contract if their not down for full commitment

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            @frugby is that intel or just what you'd like? im on board as have both got a couple of season under their belt locally now and should be starters every week

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            @Kiwiwomble Not sure, you tell me :winking_face:

            This is what I have been told... that said, I had guessed this would be the case before being told, so hardly big info. The only other candidate off the top of my head was Henry Bell... the rest of them have little to no leadership experience/vibe to them.

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              Those two are the logical options. Only other could have potentially been Jermaine Ainsley. The likes of Haig and Stodart are captains down the line, but not for a long time.

              @Kiwiwomble in terms of Naholo, I think he is committed. I just think Otago will be leaning heavily on his intellectual property to assist in the development of others. Just think they will likely use Asi, Nareki and Te Hiwi ahead of him on the wing.

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                Otago play Ta$man in 23 Days... could this be the 23?

                1. Abraham Pole
                2. Henry Bell
                3. Jermaine Ainsley
                4. Josh Dickson
                5. Will Tucker
                6. Oli Haig
                7. Sean Withy (cc)
                8. Christian Lio-Willie
                9. James Arscott
                10. Cam Millar
                11. Jona Nareki
                12. Thomas Umaga-Jensen
                13. Jake Te Hiwi
                14. Waisake Naholo
                15. Sam Gilbert
                16. Ricky Jackson
                17. Rohan Wingham
                18. Saula Ma'u
                19. Fabian Holland/Josh Hill
                20. Sam Fischli
                21. Nathan Hastie
                22. Ajay Faleafaga
                23. Jeremiah Asi

                I expect them to start the season quite conservatively selection wise, especially with a couple of tricky fixtures to get us started.

                • Ainsley and Ma'u very interchangeable
                • Holland the best lock we have, but he will only just be coming to fitness, so expect him to be eased back into it
                • Stodart likely to come into the fray as the season goes on, but he is only young... the starters are our best three by a margin IMO
                • Hastie is probably better than Arscott, but conservatively, he has never actually played an NPC game
                • Millar should be fit, if not Faleafaga will start and Hurley will take 22.
                • Gilbert could/will be used in midfield as the season goes on, but conservatively, he should start the season at 15
                • Waisake has the experience, and Asi has played all of his rugby off the left wing I believe... Hurley, has he ever played wing? Naholo should get first crack I'd think.
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                  Also, when TUJ and Te Hiwi inevitably get injured, I seriously think you could see this as a backline:

                  1. Asi
                  2. Gilbert
                  3. Nareki
                  4. Naholo
                  5. Hurley
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                    Agree with the forward pack, I'm just tossing up between where Gilbert sees himself v where he is needed to play for Otago. I also hope they start Hastie, Arscott makes me as excited as a Farmers catalogue. Hastie looks a better player. I don't want to see Tossing up between Te Hiwi and Naholo on the wing, leaning towards Naholo if we give the midget Hurley the first go at 15.

                    I'd be leaning towards

                    9 Hastie
                    10 Millar
                    11 Nareki
                    12 Gilbert
                    13 Umaga Jensen
                    14 Te Hiwi/Naholo
                    15 Hurley

                    21 Arscott
                    22 Faleafaga
                    23 Naholo/Te Hiwi

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                      Kiwiwomble
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                      would definitely feel less concerned about hurley's size if he has people like Naholo, Gilbert and TUJ in front of him

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                        Like the new jersey

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                          Oli Haig has had a leg operation and is going to be out for the season. Josh Dickson apparently being viewed as a potential blindside option.

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                            SouthernMann
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                            That is gutting to hear. Haig is one of my favourite young players. Top talent. Dickson could be interesting at blindside. Wouldn't want to push an entire season on someone like Stodart.

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                              Yeah, Haig is out, Te Hiwi and Hurley were also out for GI a couple of weeks back and apparently Finn isn't too good either

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                                Yeah, Haig is out, Te Hiwi and Hurley were also out for GI a couple of weeks back and apparently Finn isn't too good either

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                                @NateHill74 said in Otago 2023:

                                Yeah, Haig is out, Te Hiwi and Hurley were also out for GI a couple of weeks back and apparently Finn isn't too good either

                                Wonder if it could mean a chance for the Southern midget Mckenzie Haugh could get an opportunity with Hurley out.

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                                  @NateHill74 said in Otago 2023:

                                  Yeah, Haig is out, Te Hiwi and Hurley were also out for GI a couple of weeks back and apparently Finn isn't too good either

                                  Wonder if it could mean a chance for the Southern midget Mckenzie Haugh could get an opportunity with Hurley out.

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                                  @SouthernMann Mackenzie Haugh would be an Otago player already but he keeps saying he doesn't like rugby that much and he doesn't want to play top level for Otago

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                                    @SouthernMann Mackenzie Haugh would be an Otago player already but he keeps saying he doesn't like rugby that much and he doesn't want to play top level for Otago

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                                    @NateHill74 said in Otago 2023:

                                    @SouthernMann Mackenzie Haugh would be an Otago player already but he keeps saying he doesn't like rugby that much and he doesn't want to play top level for Otago

                                    He's in the development squad, so should signal he is reasonably keen?

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                                      frugby
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                                      Tom Sanders is a great pickup for Otago.

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                                        SouthernMann
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                                        Staggered when I saw that. Makes the injury replacement for Oli Haig quite easy. Interesting to see TUG listed at 13, indicating a potential partnership with Gilbert in the midfield?

                                        Hope Lopas gives it a good shake at loosehead.
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                                          I was trying to work out who was missing, and got to Pole and Lio-Willie...

                                          They obviously want to give certain guys more time in the saddle I'd think, though intrigued McClea starts at halfback, as feel like the other two could have done with a half each. Also think they could have just let Taylor play the club final, because he will hardly get a look in this season I'd have thought

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