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All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2

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  • boobooB booboo

    Re the exits thing in general.

    I reckon we saw one of the issues with RWC cycles here.

    I reckon they were adopting a strategy for this game of utilising those up and unders inside their own territory.

    I recall watching a match a year or more (and more) ago, and Rod Kafer talking about that tactic that England were using, to bomb it to about 40m out, get a chaser to jump into the catching zone to disrupt, and even knock the ball on. Worst case result: scrum to opposition. (Well, actual worst case is their possession). Was a good exit tactic.

    Bokke did exactly this to us couple of years ago.

    But what I mean about the World Cup cycle is I think we were seeing testing of a specific tactic. One that we can use on occasion.

    Whilst it smacks of dry powder I think it's a thing.

    Like 2011 where it was obvious different tactics were used in the tests before the RWC.

    Another thing that they seemed to do a bit was the pick and go through the ruck: where dude looked to be a cleaner, then picks ball at his feet. Suspect tactic to drag the D in closer. Noticed it several times. Not something I've seen us do much of.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

    Re the exits thing in general.

    I reckon we saw one of the issues with RWC cycles here.

    I reckon they were adopting a strategy for this game of utilising those up and unders inside their own territory.

    I recall watching a match a year or more (and more) ago, and Rod Kafer talking about that tactic that England were using, to bomb it to about 40m out, get a chaser to jump into the catching zone to disrupt, and even knock the ball on. Worst case result: scrum to opposition. (Well, actual worst case is their possession). Was a good exit tactic.

    Bokke did exactly this to us couple of years ago.

    But what I mean about the World Cup cycle is I think we were seeing testing of a specific tactic. One that we can use on occasion.

    Whilst it smacks of dry powder I think it's a thing.

    Like 2011 where it was obvious different tactics were used in the tests before the RWC.

    Another thing that they seemed to do a bit was the pick and go through the ruck: where dude looked to be a cleaner, then picks ball at his feet. Suspect tactic to drag the D in closer. Noticed it several times. Not something I've seen us do much of.

    Seemed to stop that after 20 or so?

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    • voodooV voodoo

      @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

      D-Mac seems like a genuinely good bastard doesn't he

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      @voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

      @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

      D-Mac seems like a genuinely good bastard doesn't he

      Some school days banter: BBBR CBHS and DMac Christ's, which is why Brodie reckons he knows how to tie a tie.

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        Just watching again and I reckon Faf was lucky that he didn’t get a yellow card for what was in my view a deliberate knock down. He just jumped into the pass and put his hands and feet out. You don’t “catch “ an intercept like that.

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          Just watching again and I reckon Faf was lucky that he didn’t get a yellow card for what was in my view a deliberate knock down. He just jumped into the pass and put his hands and feet out. You don’t “catch “ an intercept like that.

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          @ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.

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          • voodooV voodoo

            @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

            D-Mac seems like a genuinely good bastard doesn't he

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            @voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

            @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

            D-Mac seems like a genuinely good bastard doesn't he

            Pissed that they didn’t name check @Victor-Meldrew as In the Shed’s biggest fan.

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              Just watching again and I reckon Faf was lucky that he didn’t get a yellow card for what was in my view a deliberate knock down. He just jumped into the pass and put his hands and feet out. You don’t “catch “ an intercept like that.

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              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

              Just watching again and I reckon Faf was lucky that he didn’t get a yellow card for what was in my view a deliberate knock down. He just jumped into the pass and put his hands and feet out. You don’t “catch “ an intercept like that.

              As an aside, did you notice how quiet Faf was? Kept well under control by our loosies.

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              • NTAN NTA

                @canefan said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                @NTA said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                Just getting around to this now

                The number of times Nesbitt calls any Books backline player with dark skin "Mapimpi" is utterly embarrassing.

                To be fair it wasn't just the saffa players. I recall him calling Rieko as Richie at least once

                Needs to retire

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                @NTA

                The commentary on the Japan AB XV game was way better.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                  So 2 questions:

                  • what does that Frizell performance mean for Scooter? Is he on the bench now? Or are we going to do the unthinkable and make a choice between BBBR and SW? I assume Scooter goes to the bench.

                  IMO Scooter is a bolted on starter. Either way I wouldn’t mind them rotating the other two to keep them fresh for the RWC, I just think the way Scooter has been playing they can’t leave him out. Whether he has a 4, 5 or 6 on his back, he is now playing the tight game at a high level that we need.

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                  @ACT-Crusader

                  I agree, I think Scooter is a starter with Whitelock most at risk.

                  Scooter’s workrate & physicality has been a big reason for our lack looking as good as it has in the 2 tests

                  If Frizzell is able to keep this level of performance then I am quite happy to see us rotating the 3 locks heavily with Vai’i used mainly as a sub

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                    Nom nom. So salty.

                    Screenshot_2023-07-16-17-34-01-21_a23b203fd3aafc6dcb84e438dda678b6.jpg

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                      There was a tiny knock on clearly visible on the replay that the TMO made his decision on.

                      It was so small that it was hard to detect in real time but it was there

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                      • D DaGrubster

                        There was a tiny knock on clearly visible on the replay that the TMO made his decision on.

                        It was so small that it was hard to detect in real time but it was there

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                        @DaGrubster Thanks mate I didn't watch the game 😬

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                          https://fb.watch/lPSN7uAAcL/

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            Nom nom. So salty.

                            Screenshot_2023-07-16-17-34-01-21_a23b203fd3aafc6dcb84e438dda678b6.jpg

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                            @Bones given he touched it when he leapt, he has to regather it without it touching either BB or the ground...one of those things didnt happen.

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                              @ACT-Crusader

                              I agree, I think Scooter is a starter with Whitelock most at risk.

                              Scooter’s workrate & physicality has been a big reason for our lack looking as good as it has in the 2 tests

                              If Frizzell is able to keep this level of performance then I am quite happy to see us rotating the 3 locks heavily with Vai’i used mainly as a sub

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                              @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                              @ACT-Crusader

                              I agree, I think Scooter is a starter with Whitelock most at risk.

                              Scooter’s workrate & physicality has been a big reason for our lack looking as good as it has in the 2 tests

                              If Frizzell is able to keep this level of performance then I am quite happy to see us rotating the 3 locks heavily with Vai’i used mainly as a sub

                              Frizzell has been a revelation, I didn’t see that coming,

                              was convinced they would have to play scooter there ,

                              now if he can keep that going, we have a selection headache , a good one

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Bones given he touched it when he leapt, he has to regather it without it touching either BB or the ground...one of those things didnt happen.

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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                @Bones given he touched it when he leapt, he has to regather it without it touching either BB or the ground...one of those things didnt happen.

                                Which one?

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                                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                  @Bones given he touched it when he leapt, he has to regather it without it touching either BB or the ground...one of those things didnt happen.

                                  Which one?

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                                  @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                  @Bones given he touched it when he leapt, he has to regather it without it touching either BB or the ground...one of those things didnt happen.

                                  Which one?

                                  Lol I think @taniwharugby was just being nice, what I think he meant was neither of those things happen.

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    @NTA

                                    The commentary on the Japan AB XV game was way better.

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                    The commentary on the Japan AB XV game was way better.

                                    Although not to the same level of Nisbett, TJ mis-identified players too. He might have to hand back his Ta$man PR card for saying AJ Lam was Nankivell.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                      The commentary on the Japan AB XV game was way better.

                                      Although not to the same level of Nisbett, TJ mis-identified players too. He might have to hand back his Ta$man PR card for saying AJ Lam was Nankivell.

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                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                      The commentary on the Japan AB XV game was way better.

                                      Although not to the same level of Nisbett, TJ mis-identified players too. He might have to hand back his Ta$man PR card for saying AJ Lam was Nankivell.

                                      To be fair the AB XV players all looked a bit the same. The Japan side was easier with all those pakeha, maori, Samoan and Fijian players to make identification so much easier...

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                                      • NTAN NTA

                                        Just getting around to this now

                                        The number of times Nesbitt calls any Books backline player with dark skin "Mapimpi" is utterly embarrassing.

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                                        @NTA said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                        Just getting around to this now

                                        The number of times Nesbitt calls any Books backline player with dark skin "Mapimpi" is utterly embarrassing.

                                        https://twitter.com/adrian_slabbert/status/1680261209449168896

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                          @ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.

                                          Poor old, Will.

                                          We're back to critiquing him for mistakes he didn't make! 🙂

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