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Australia v All Blacks - Bled I

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

    All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

    Mafileo is still with the squad though.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

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    @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

    All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

    Mafileo is still with the squad though.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

    Ah Jesus . What a waste.

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      Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

      "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

      "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


      He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

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      • voodooV voodoo

        Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

        "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

        "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


        He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

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        @voodoo said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

        He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

        He sounds like he's got fucking dementia.

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          Watching the speed and physical intensity of the AB v Boks game, it is fairly clear we're about to get double-fisted in front of a crowd that will mostly be Kiwis living here or looking for a weekend in Melbourne.

          Record score coming up, despite the chance of a late shower dampening proceedings.

          EDIT: I mean to say, as I said elsewhere, if the ABs win by less than 50, it'll be a fail on their part.

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          • voodooV voodoo

            Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

            "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

            "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


            He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

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            @voodoo said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

            Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

            "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

            "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


            He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

            If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

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            • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

              @voodoo said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

              Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

              "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

              "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


              He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

              If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

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              @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

              If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

              It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

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              • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                @voodoo said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

                "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

                "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


                He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

                If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

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                @kiwiinmelb we know Eddie is someone to be wary of and has masterminded our downfall before, but can he turn this one around?

                TBF I think it would be harder planning to take us down this time, as our game is less refined than in the past when he has done it...I mean we have been quick out of the blocks 2 tests in a row, and put together some damn good rugby 2 weeks in a row.

                I would hope that there shouldnt be any complacency, particularly after the past few years of ups and downs.

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                  @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                  If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

                  It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

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                  @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                  It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

                  Gatland & Hansen were experts at this when they coached Wales

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                    Possession rugby is dead interesting factoid "Note how the Wallabies completed just 102 passes in the match (against Arg). To place that in perspective, the All Blacks, in the 3 mins 10 seconds of continuous play that led to Aaron Smith’s opening try, made 36 passes; more than one third of the Wallabies match total in just a single passage of play."

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                      @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

                      It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

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                      @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

                      It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

                      Yeah get that but I remember before the 2011 wc semi , and some Aussie players , kearns etc taking shots at Nz’s choking etc .

                      And nick Farjones saying , I think it’s a big mistake before playing Nz giving them motivation,our best victories have come from taking them by surprise against the odds . I always believe it’s best to not poke the bear and try and take them by surprise in the game itself

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                      • Dan54D Dan54

                        @family-man Yep but perhaps realistically we would all really want pretty similar team running out for the ABs as played Saturday night, depending on results we may see some changes back at Dunedin test.

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                        @Dan54 said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                        @family-man Yep but perhaps realistically we would all really want pretty similar team running out for the ABs as played Saturday night, depending on results we may see some changes back at Dunedin test.

                        I agree. Secure the Bledisloe first, blooding new guys second

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                          It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

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                            It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

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                            @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                            It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

                            It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

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                              I give no real prospect of a Wallabies win for this fixture. They're just two games into trying to change the way they play. Some of their good players are injured or coming back from injury and hence aren't in form.

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                                It will be interesting how the Wallabies play. They cannot persist with kicking possession to the ABs backs.

                                Eddie is going to have to change tactics

                                ABs have yet to be tested by up tempo wide play this year - that feels like a better option for the Wallabies.

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                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                  It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

                                  It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

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                                  @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                  It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

                                  It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

                                  Except test rugby rarely works that way. Sure between tier 1 and 2, but I think it will be closer, much closer. Hopefully an abs win but by 10 or less

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                                    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

                                    It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

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                                    @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

                                    It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

                                    Not going to happen. Aus will win one of them. Happens before every RWC.

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                                      Wayne Barnes will be referee for this one so we will have the ghosts of World Cup exits from 2003, 2007 and 2019 hoovering around.

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                                        Based on the last couple of weeks, I'm going to continue my quietly skeptical about the squad and matchday 23 approach, and hope that my reverse jinx continues to be strong for Bledisloe 1.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                          Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                          All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                          Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                          Ah Jesus . What a waste.

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                                          @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                          @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                          Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                          All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                          Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                          Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                                          Foster is an idiot.

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