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Australia v All Blacks - Bled I

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  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

    @voodoo said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

    "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

    "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


    He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

    If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

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    @kiwiinmelb we know Eddie is someone to be wary of and has masterminded our downfall before, but can he turn this one around?

    TBF I think it would be harder planning to take us down this time, as our game is less refined than in the past when he has done it...I mean we have been quick out of the blocks 2 tests in a row, and put together some damn good rugby 2 weeks in a row.

    I would hope that there shouldnt be any complacency, particularly after the past few years of ups and downs.

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      @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

      If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

      It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

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      @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

      It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

      Gatland & Hansen were experts at this when they coached Wales

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        Possession rugby is dead interesting factoid "Note how the Wallabies completed just 102 passes in the match (against Arg). To place that in perspective, the All Blacks, in the 3 mins 10 seconds of continuous play that led to Aaron Smith’s opening try, made 36 passes; more than one third of the Wallabies match total in just a single passage of play."

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          @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

          If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

          It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

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          @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

          @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

          If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

          It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

          Yeah get that but I remember before the 2011 wc semi , and some Aussie players , kearns etc taking shots at Nz’s choking etc .

          And nick Farjones saying , I think it’s a big mistake before playing Nz giving them motivation,our best victories have come from taking them by surprise against the odds . I always believe it’s best to not poke the bear and try and take them by surprise in the game itself

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            @family-man Yep but perhaps realistically we would all really want pretty similar team running out for the ABs as played Saturday night, depending on results we may see some changes back at Dunedin test.

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            @Dan54 said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

            @family-man Yep but perhaps realistically we would all really want pretty similar team running out for the ABs as played Saturday night, depending on results we may see some changes back at Dunedin test.

            I agree. Secure the Bledisloe first, blooding new guys second

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              It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

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              • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

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                @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

                It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

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                  I give no real prospect of a Wallabies win for this fixture. They're just two games into trying to change the way they play. Some of their good players are injured or coming back from injury and hence aren't in form.

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                    It will be interesting how the Wallabies play. They cannot persist with kicking possession to the ABs backs.

                    Eddie is going to have to change tactics

                    ABs have yet to be tested by up tempo wide play this year - that feels like a better option for the Wallabies.

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                      @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

                      It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

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                      @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

                      It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

                      Except test rugby rarely works that way. Sure between tier 1 and 2, but I think it will be closer, much closer. Hopefully an abs win but by 10 or less

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                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                        It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

                        It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

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                        @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                        It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

                        It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

                        Not going to happen. Aus will win one of them. Happens before every RWC.

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                          Wayne Barnes will be referee for this one so we will have the ghosts of World Cup exits from 2003, 2007 and 2019 hoovering around.

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                            Based on the last couple of weeks, I'm going to continue my quietly skeptical about the squad and matchday 23 approach, and hope that my reverse jinx continues to be strong for Bledisloe 1.

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                              @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                              Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                              All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                              Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                              https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                              Ah Jesus . What a waste.

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                              @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                              @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                              Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                              All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                              Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                              https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                              Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                              Foster is an idiot.

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                                @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

                                It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

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                                @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

                                It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

                                Nice try Nick. I still remember flying to Syd for RWC 2003 semi-final and being stunned by the Wallaby turnaround 😀

                                I’m picking 1-1 split but I hope we take the first match. Wallabies always compete against us, they know our game, our players, we play a similar fluent game and no matter how dominant the AB’s have been I’ve never not known a Wallaby side who weren’t confident of winning ie, there is no fear or being over awed.

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                                  We need to retain Bled first..RWC comes later. This means rolling out the same team minus injuries. Continuity.

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                                    I agree, best team again given we have a week off. I wouldn't mind giving Roigard a start but if not he needs to be on the bench at minimum. DMac in the 23 as well for me.

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                                      Wayne Barnes will be referee for this one so we will have the ghosts of World Cup exits from 2003, 2007 and 2019 hoovering around.

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                                      @sparky said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                      Wayne Barnes will be referee for this one so we will have the ghosts of World Cup exits from 2003, 2007 and 2019 hoovering around.

                                      Qué?

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                        All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                        Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                        All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                        Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                        That fucken sucks for Stevenson. Absolutely shafted.

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                                          Stevenson gets to hold tackle bags instead of having a run in Japan with the AB XV. 🙄

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