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Same old Russians, always cheating

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="598154" data-time="1468923584"><p>
    Aren't Jamaica super dodgy with testing?</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    About to say the same thing.

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      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="598117" data-time="1468916925">
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      <p>A comment by Putin:</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p><em>"We are seeing a dangerous return to politics interfering with sport"</em></p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>Oh, the hypocrisy of that statement after Russia's state-sponsored cheating.  :mocking:</p>
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      </blockquote>
      <p>He should compete in the shooting.  I reckon he'd make a good target</p>

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      • nzzpN Offline
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        #112

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Billy Tell" data-cid="598152" data-time="1468922409">
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        <p>You can count on 1 hand the number of NZ athletes done for drug cheating over the years: there was that ?weightlifter, and I think a cyclist or too.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>It will be a complete joke if Russian are allowed to compete.</p>
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        </blockquote>
        <p> </p>
        <p>I've got to the point where I just don't think you can know.  Lance got away wtih it for years - despite being the most tested person on the planet.  US olympic athletes dope like crazy (Marion Jones, her husband).   The reality is we can't know who is clean and who is not.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>My interest in the Olympics is at an all time low.  I just don't think I can be bothered.</p>

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          #113

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="598154" data-time="1468923584">
          <div>
          <p>Aren't Jamaica super dodgy with testing?</p>
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          </blockquote>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Super dodgy understates it. According to a program I watched on ABC about the Russia doping scandal, Jamaica did no out of competition testing for the six months leading up to London Olympics.</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>And they won all the sprinting medals...</p>

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            I think there are a lot more doing ped s than people realise , testing only catches the fools who don't know what they are doing . <br><br>
            Lance Armstrong never tested positive . <br><br>
            You are allowed a certain amount of testosterone in your system before they declare it suss . The amount they allow is to allow for the freak in nature who might have extra high natural levels . Funny that nearly everyone they test is just on that limit . Doctors monitor their levels before comps just to keep them legal . They hit it a lot harder while In training away from testers .

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              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="598281" data-time="1468982207">
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              <p>Lance Armstrong never tested positive .<br>
               </p>
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              </blockquote>
              <p> </p>
              <p>That's actually not true he tested positive once and then got a doctor to write him a back dated prescription for a topical cream to cover it up. The UCI of course accepted it.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>If your interested in the story I highly recommend watching "Stop at Nothing, the Lance Armstrong story" its on netflix and is a good watch.</p>

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                #116

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="598265" data-time="1468976801">
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                <p>Super dodgy understates it. According to a program I watched on ABC about the Russia doping scandal, Jamaica did no out of competition testing for the six months leading up to London Olympics.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>And they won all the sprinting medals...</p>
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                </blockquote>
                <p>Usain loves to eat McNuggets during the Olympics.  That must be why</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.runnersworld.com/newswire/usain-bolt-ate-1000-mcnuggets-at-2008-olympics'>http://www.runnersworld.com/newswire/usain-bolt-ate-1000-mcnuggets-at-2008-olympics</a></p>

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                  #117

                  <p>Sounds like the IOC are going to ban the Russian team within the next 24 hours. Good. Fuck Putin and Russia.</p>

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                    #118

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Unco" data-cid="599704" data-time="1469329054">
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                    <p>Sounds like the IOC are going to ban the Russian team within the next 24 hours. Good. Fuck Putin and Russia.</p>
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                    </blockquote>
                    <p>A friend of mine shared a facebook post from Tony Veitch linking to an article in the Daily Mail saying this.  </p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Is that grounds to unfriend?  </p>

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                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Unco" data-cid="599704" data-time="1469329054"><p>
                      Sounds like the IOC are going to ban the Russian team within the next 24 hours. Good. Fuck Putin and Russia.</p></blockquote>
                      <br>
                      Should have. Didn't. <br><br>
                      Ledt it up to the individual sports.<br><br>
                      IOC either gutless or corrupt or both.

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                        <p>Ugh, spineless, corrupt cowards, the whole fucking lot of them. That shows everyone just how much credibility the IOC has.</p>

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                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="599871" data-time="1469381107"><p>
                          Should have. Didn't. <br><br>
                          Ledt it up to the individual sports.<br><br>
                          IOC either gutless or corrupt or both.</p></blockquote>We know it's both

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                            <p>I'm not at all surprised with this decision.  The IOC is spineless and Coe is full of hot air.  :(</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Correction: I should say Bach.  Coe can still redeem himself.</p>

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                              <p>I have to imagine that after the IOC awarded the Winter Olympics to fucking Sochi, Putin has all the information he needs to blackmail them too. Giant sports organisations like the IOC are probably shitting themselves after what happened to FIFA.</p>

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                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Damo" data-cid="599818" data-time="1469348858">
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                                <p>A friend of mine shared a facebook post from Tony Veitch linking to an article in the Daily Mail saying this.  </p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Is that grounds to unfriend?  </p>
                                </div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>In short, yes.</p>

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                                  Immenso Rapido
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                                  #125

                                  The mood on Brazil seems pretty grumpy generally about the corrupt Olympic movement.<br><br>
                                  I wonder if Russian athletes will be the target of pissed off crowds. Expect some jeering?<br><br>
                                  Still, pretty weak though....,

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                                    #126

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="599877" data-time="1469392013">
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                                    <p>I'm not at all surprised with this decision.  The IOC is spineless and Coe is full of hot air.  :(</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Correction: I should say Bach.  Coe can still redeem himself.</p>
                                    </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p>
                                    Coe (who I still think is dodgy having been in bed with Diack all these years) at least, as head of the IAAF, stood up and banned Russia from all the athletics. </p>

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                                      Icarus

                                      Hell of a documentary - (it's on netflix)

                                      If you've got the time:

                                      Doco first though

                                      Would welcome any analysis that refutes what Bryan Fogel has presented to us.

                                      Not good folks - running out of things to believe in...

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                                        Icarus

                                        Hell of a documentary - (it's on netflix)

                                        If you've got the time:

                                        Doco first though

                                        Would welcome any analysis that refutes what Bryan Fogel has presented to us.

                                        Not good folks - running out of things to believe in...

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                                        @siam said in Same old Russians, always cheating:

                                        Icarus

                                        Hell of a documentary - (it's on netflix)

                                        I'll second this. Engrossing. Makes you think that top level athletics is riddled with drugs, which is probably because top level athletics is almost certainly riddled with drugs.

                                        https://medium.com/@tomnew/usain-bolt-lance-armstrong-and-the-duck-test-303b7b891e7e

                                        Link worth a read as well.

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                                          I somehow opened this thread on the first page and forgot how old it was. The statement from Russia after allegations came out is quite funny
                                          "These allegations are unfounded"
                                          Yep "unfounded"

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