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Same old Russians, always cheating

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  • canefanC Online
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    canefan
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    #116

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="598265" data-time="1468976801">
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    <p>Super dodgy understates it. According to a program I watched on ABC about the Russia doping scandal, Jamaica did no out of competition testing for the six months leading up to London Olympics.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>And they won all the sprinting medals...</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p>Usain loves to eat McNuggets during the Olympics.  That must be why</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.runnersworld.com/newswire/usain-bolt-ate-1000-mcnuggets-at-2008-olympics'>http://www.runnersworld.com/newswire/usain-bolt-ate-1000-mcnuggets-at-2008-olympics</a></p>

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      <p>Sounds like the IOC are going to ban the Russian team within the next 24 hours. Good. Fuck Putin and Russia.</p>

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        #118

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Unco" data-cid="599704" data-time="1469329054">
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        <p>Sounds like the IOC are going to ban the Russian team within the next 24 hours. Good. Fuck Putin and Russia.</p>
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        </blockquote>
        <p>A friend of mine shared a facebook post from Tony Veitch linking to an article in the Daily Mail saying this.  </p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Is that grounds to unfriend?  </p>

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        • boobooB Online
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          booboo
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          #119

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Unco" data-cid="599704" data-time="1469329054"><p>
          Sounds like the IOC are going to ban the Russian team within the next 24 hours. Good. Fuck Putin and Russia.</p></blockquote>
          <br>
          Should have. Didn't. <br><br>
          Ledt it up to the individual sports.<br><br>
          IOC either gutless or corrupt or both.

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          • UncoU Offline
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            Unco
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            #120

            <p>Ugh, spineless, corrupt cowards, the whole fucking lot of them. That shows everyone just how much credibility the IOC has.</p>

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            • canefanC Online
              canefanC Online
              canefan
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              #121

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="599871" data-time="1469381107"><p>
              Should have. Didn't. <br><br>
              Ledt it up to the individual sports.<br><br>
              IOC either gutless or corrupt or both.</p></blockquote>We know it's both

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                #122

                <p>I'm not at all surprised with this decision.  The IOC is spineless and Coe is full of hot air.  :(</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Correction: I should say Bach.  Coe can still redeem himself.</p>

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                • UncoU Offline
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                  <p>I have to imagine that after the IOC awarded the Winter Olympics to fucking Sochi, Putin has all the information he needs to blackmail them too. Giant sports organisations like the IOC are probably shitting themselves after what happened to FIFA.</p>

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                  • SmudgeS Offline
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                    #124

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Damo" data-cid="599818" data-time="1469348858">
                    <div>
                    <p>A friend of mine shared a facebook post from Tony Veitch linking to an article in the Daily Mail saying this.  </p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Is that grounds to unfriend?  </p>
                    </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>In short, yes.</p>

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                    • I Offline
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                      Immenso Rapido
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                      #125

                      The mood on Brazil seems pretty grumpy generally about the corrupt Olympic movement.<br><br>
                      I wonder if Russian athletes will be the target of pissed off crowds. Expect some jeering?<br><br>
                      Still, pretty weak though....,

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                        #126

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="599877" data-time="1469392013">
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                        <p>I'm not at all surprised with this decision.  The IOC is spineless and Coe is full of hot air.  :(</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Correction: I should say Bach.  Coe can still redeem himself.</p>
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                        </blockquote>
                        <p>
                        Coe (who I still think is dodgy having been in bed with Diack all these years) at least, as head of the IAAF, stood up and banned Russia from all the athletics. </p>

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                        • SiamS Offline
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                          Siam
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                          #127

                          Icarus

                          Hell of a documentary - (it's on netflix)

                          If you've got the time:

                          Doco first though

                          Would welcome any analysis that refutes what Bryan Fogel has presented to us.

                          Not good folks - running out of things to believe in...

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                            Icarus

                            Hell of a documentary - (it's on netflix)

                            If you've got the time:

                            Doco first though

                            Would welcome any analysis that refutes what Bryan Fogel has presented to us.

                            Not good folks - running out of things to believe in...

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                            nzzp
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                            @siam said in Same old Russians, always cheating:

                            Icarus

                            Hell of a documentary - (it's on netflix)

                            I'll second this. Engrossing. Makes you think that top level athletics is riddled with drugs, which is probably because top level athletics is almost certainly riddled with drugs.

                            https://medium.com/@tomnew/usain-bolt-lance-armstrong-and-the-duck-test-303b7b891e7e

                            Link worth a read as well.

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                              Crucial
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                              I somehow opened this thread on the first page and forgot how old it was. The statement from Russia after allegations came out is quite funny
                              "These allegations are unfounded"
                              Yep "unfounded"

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                              • SiamS Siam

                                Icarus

                                Hell of a documentary - (it's on netflix)

                                If you've got the time:

                                Doco first though

                                Would welcome any analysis that refutes what Bryan Fogel has presented to us.

                                Not good folks - running out of things to believe in...

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                                TeWaio
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                                #130

                                @siam That was an awesome listen. I loved the documentary as well, but the broader discussion about PEDs and cheating in sports in general was fantastic. Thanks for sharing.

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                                  Tim
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                                  China ‘compulsorily doped’ athletes in 1980s and 90s, claims whistleblower

                                  A former doctor for the Chinese Olympic team has revealed that more than 10,000 of the country’s athletes were involved in a systematic doping programme across all sports – and that every one of China’s medals in major tournaments in the 1980s and 90s came from performance‑enhancing drugs.

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                                    China ‘compulsorily doped’ athletes in 1980s and 90s, claims whistleblower

                                    A former doctor for the Chinese Olympic team has revealed that more than 10,000 of the country’s athletes were involved in a systematic doping programme across all sports – and that every one of China’s medals in major tournaments in the 1980s and 90s came from performance‑enhancing drugs.

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                                    booboo
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                                    #132

                                    @tim said in Same old Russians, always cheating:

                                    China ‘compulsorily doped’ athletes in 1980s and 90s, claims whistleblower

                                    A former doctor for the Chinese Olympic team has revealed that more than 10,000 of the country’s athletes were involved in a systematic doping programme across all sports – and that every one of China’s medals in major tournaments in the 1980s and 90s came from performance‑enhancing drugs.

                                    Whodathunk?

                                    alt text

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                                    • boobooB booboo

                                      @tim said in Same old Russians, always cheating:

                                      China ‘compulsorily doped’ athletes in 1980s and 90s, claims whistleblower

                                      A former doctor for the Chinese Olympic team has revealed that more than 10,000 of the country’s athletes were involved in a systematic doping programme across all sports – and that every one of China’s medals in major tournaments in the 1980s and 90s came from performance‑enhancing drugs.

                                      Whodathunk?

                                      alt text

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                                      @booboo said in Same old Russians, always cheating:

                                      @tim said in Same old Russians, always cheating:

                                      China ‘compulsorily doped’ athletes in 1980s and 90s, claims whistleblower

                                      A former doctor for the Chinese Olympic team has revealed that more than 10,000 of the country’s athletes were involved in a systematic doping programme across all sports – and that every one of China’s medals in major tournaments in the 1980s and 90s came from performance‑enhancing drugs.

                                      Whodathunk?

                                      alt text

                                      As the 12th Man would say, Wei Do Ping and Yei Wi Wun

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                                        and so, a couple of years later, we are back here again.

                                        Russia are banned from the Olympics. Not the athletes, just the Country. No anthems, no flags, just the athletes.

                                        I don't get that at all to be honest. Either the athletes are clean, and the ban is a joke, or the athletes are dirty because, you know, state doping, and shouldn't be there either.

                                        I find myself having very little time for anti-doping organisations. The cause they supposedly represent? yes, great. The organisations themselves? Just another large corrupt sporting organisation.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          and so, a couple of years later, we are back here again.

                                          Russia are banned from the Olympics. Not the athletes, just the Country. No anthems, no flags, just the athletes.

                                          I don't get that at all to be honest. Either the athletes are clean, and the ban is a joke, or the athletes are dirty because, you know, state doping, and shouldn't be there either.

                                          I find myself having very little time for anti-doping organisations. The cause they supposedly represent? yes, great. The organisations themselves? Just another large corrupt sporting organisation.

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                                          Crucial
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                                          @mariner4life they systematically doped to claim national glory. This punishes them by shaming but doesn't affect clean athletes.
                                          Would you prefer no consequences at all?

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