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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    yep, moving to the Jets is definitely what i would do if i wanted to win a Ring

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    @mariner4life

    Ha, yeah it's weird to see the Jets as contenders for the first time in about a decade. But once you rule out all the teams with a settled QB (and therefore wouldn't be trading for Rodgers) the Jets were probably his best bet.

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      best bet and contenders are not the same thing

      they won't even win their division. And my not get a wildcard depending on what Miami do.

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        Yep, Bills are comfortable favourites, and the AFC East is a tough division. But from Rodgers perspective it's a borderline top 5 defense that had the worst QB play in the league but still managed 7 wins. Competent, league average QB play probably gets them another 3 wins at least which would have had them in the playoffs.

        This season is a new year and maybe we get regressions and injuries. The Jets aren't a particularly strong regression candidate because they didn't have a ton of fumble luck and the defence wasn't reliant on takeaways. The defence did have a good year in terms of injury luck so maybe that changes. And of course if Rodgers goes down than all goes out the window.

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          yeah, every year there are raises and falls.

          I wouldn't mind seeing the Jets go well, but i don't like Rodgers much so i'm not actively rooting for them.

          I'm stuck hoping our ridiculously expensive QB doesn't stink the place out again, dooming the team for the forseeable future

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            The difference in quality between the AFC and NFC QBs is insane.

            AFC has Mahommes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, Herbert, Lawrence, Rodgers etc

            NFC has Jalen Hurts and....old Matt Stafford? Big question marks everywhere. I'm hopeful for Brock Purdy but he could easily max out as a Jimmy G middle of the road QB.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              yeah, every year there are raises and falls.

              I wouldn't mind seeing the Jets go well, but i don't like Rodgers much so i'm not actively rooting for them.

              I'm stuck hoping our ridiculously expensive QB doesn't stink the place out again, dooming the team for the forseeable future

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              @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

              but i don't like Rodgers much

              huh - any particular reason?

              I'm planning a Tuesday Night Football regular get together this year - a few folk to watch MNF on delay. NZ timing not bad ... but DAZN sucks balls on quality at the moment; weighing up that risk against just getting Sky Sport Now

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                The difference in quality between the AFC and NFC QBs is insane.

                AFC has Mahommes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, Herbert, Lawrence, Rodgers etc

                NFC has Jalen Hurts and....old Matt Stafford? Big question marks everywhere. I'm hopeful for Brock Purdy but he could easily max out as a Jimmy G middle of the road QB.

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                @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                The difference in quality between the AFC and NFC QBs is insane.

                AFC has Mahommes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, Herbert, Lawrence, Rodgers etc

                NFC has Jalen Hurts and....old Matt Stafford? Big question marks everywhere. I'm hopeful for Brock Purdy but he could easily max out as a Jimmy G middle of the road QB.

                Huge year for Brock. He needs to avoid the sophomore slump, and hopefully show can throw it down the field. I remember him showing ability last season with throws down field

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                  The difference in quality between the AFC and NFC QBs is insane.

                  AFC has Mahommes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, Herbert, Lawrence, Rodgers etc

                  NFC has Jalen Hurts and....old Matt Stafford? Big question marks everywhere. I'm hopeful for Brock Purdy but he could easily max out as a Jimmy G middle of the road QB.

                  Huge year for Brock. He needs to avoid the sophomore slump, and hopefully show can throw it down the field. I remember him showing ability last season with throws down field

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                  @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                  @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                  The difference in quality between the AFC and NFC QBs is insane.

                  AFC has Mahommes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, Herbert, Lawrence, Rodgers etc

                  NFC has Jalen Hurts and....old Matt Stafford? Big question marks everywhere. I'm hopeful for Brock Purdy but he could easily max out as a Jimmy G middle of the road QB.

                  Huge year for Brock. He needs to avoid the sophomore slump, and hopefully show can throw it down the field. I remember him showing ability last season with throws down field

                  Agreed. He also needs to demonstrate he can play a full season healthy though I think part of that is on Shanahan as his QBs are always getting hurt.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                    @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                    The difference in quality between the AFC and NFC QBs is insane.

                    AFC has Mahommes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, Herbert, Lawrence, Rodgers etc

                    NFC has Jalen Hurts and....old Matt Stafford? Big question marks everywhere. I'm hopeful for Brock Purdy but he could easily max out as a Jimmy G middle of the road QB.

                    Huge year for Brock. He needs to avoid the sophomore slump, and hopefully show can throw it down the field. I remember him showing ability last season with throws down field

                    Agreed. He also needs to demonstrate he can play a full season healthy though I think part of that is on Shanahan as his QBs are always getting hurt.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                    @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                    @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                    The difference in quality between the AFC and NFC QBs is insane.

                    AFC has Mahommes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, Herbert, Lawrence, Rodgers etc

                    NFC has Jalen Hurts and....old Matt Stafford? Big question marks everywhere. I'm hopeful for Brock Purdy but he could easily max out as a Jimmy G middle of the road QB.

                    Huge year for Brock. He needs to avoid the sophomore slump, and hopefully show can throw it down the field. I remember him showing ability last season with throws down field

                    Agreed. He also needs to demonstrate he can play a full season healthy though I think part of that is on Shanahan as his QBs are always getting hurt.

                    He needs O line protection

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                      It's kind of amazing that Trey Lance is on the verge of a historic bust (they traded three firsts for him!) but it basically doesn't matter since they drafted Purdy and already had an amazingly talented roster. Kind of reminds me of the Ryan Leaf pick - a disaster pick but Bobby Beathard's achievements make you forget that he made that call (traded up for him too)

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                        Some injury drama - Jalen Ramsey and Joe Burrow both carted off. Not sure on Ramsey's prognosis, but the Bengals don't seem too stressed about Burrow at the moment.

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                          Some injury drama - Jalen Ramsey and Joe Burrow both carted off. Not sure on Ramsey's prognosis, but the Bengals don't seem too stressed about Burrow at the moment.

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                          @Cyclops the word is Burrow is a calf strain only which is good news.

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                            Sean Payton is an arrogant prick but its refreshing to hear a coach talk so candidly to the press.

                            Payton destroying last year's Broncos regime

                            One for you @mariner4life

                            It might have been one of the worst coaching jobs in the history of the NFL,” Payton told Bell. “That’s how bad it was.”
                            
                            Payton made it clear that “everybody’s got a little stink on their hands,” for what happened last year, even if most of the stench came from Hackett.
                            
                            “There’s 20 dirty hands, for what was allowed, tolerated in the fricking training rooms, the meeting rooms,” Payton said, an apparent reference to Hackett allowing Wilson’s entourage to have an active presence in the facility. 
                            
                            “The offense. I don’t know Hackett. A lot of people had dirt on their hands. It wasn’t just Russell [Wilson]. He didn’t just flip. He still has it. This B.S. that he hit a wall? Shoot, they couldn’t get a play in. They were 29th in the league in pre-snap penalties on both sides of the ball.”
                            
                            “It doesn’t happen often where an NFL team or organization gets embarrassed,” Payton told Bell. “And that happened here. Part of it was their own fault, relative to spending so much fucking time trying to win the offseason — the P.R., the pomp and circumstance, marching people around and all this stuff.”
                            
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                              yeah i read it, and i am a little unsure how to take it

                              last year was so obviously a dumpster fire, and you could see how bad the coaching was

                              but this feels like someone laying the platform for some excuses later in the year when we are 3rd in teh Division and scratching towards a .500 record.

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                                https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38156107/some-commanders-players-concerned-eric-bieniemy-intensity-ron-rivera-says

                                Some players complaining about Bienemy's intensity. Maybe they're the problem, and not him?

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                                  https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38156107/some-commanders-players-concerned-eric-bieniemy-intensity-ron-rivera-says

                                  Some players complaining about Bienemy's intensity. Maybe they're the problem, and not him?

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                                  @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

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                                    @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

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                                    @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                    @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

                                    He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he can sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

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                                      @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                      @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

                                      He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he can sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

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                                      @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                      @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                      @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

                                      He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he get sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

                                      Good for him, good for the franchise and the new owner if it happens

                                      Hopefully a better name will help😀

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                        @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                        @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

                                        He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he get sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

                                        Good for him, good for the franchise and the new owner if it happens

                                        Hopefully a better name will help😀

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                                        @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                        @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                        @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                        @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

                                        He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he get sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

                                        Good for him, good for the franchise and the new owner if it happens

                                        Hopefully a better name will help😀

                                        It will be interesting if they change the name. Make a clean break with the previous owner

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                                          They need to change the name - Commanders sucks

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