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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    It's kind of amazing that Trey Lance is on the verge of a historic bust (they traded three firsts for him!) but it basically doesn't matter since they drafted Purdy and already had an amazingly talented roster. Kind of reminds me of the Ryan Leaf pick - a disaster pick but Bobby Beathard's achievements make you forget that he made that call (traded up for him too)

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      Some injury drama - Jalen Ramsey and Joe Burrow both carted off. Not sure on Ramsey's prognosis, but the Bengals don't seem too stressed about Burrow at the moment.

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        Some injury drama - Jalen Ramsey and Joe Burrow both carted off. Not sure on Ramsey's prognosis, but the Bengals don't seem too stressed about Burrow at the moment.

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        @Cyclops the word is Burrow is a calf strain only which is good news.

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          Sean Payton is an arrogant prick but its refreshing to hear a coach talk so candidly to the press.

          Payton destroying last year's Broncos regime

          One for you @mariner4life

          It might have beenΒ one of the worst coaching jobs in the history of the NFL,” Payton told Bell. β€œThat’s how bad it was.”
          
          Payton made it clear that β€œeverybody’s got a little stink on their hands,” for what happened last year, even if most of the stench came from Hackett.
          
          β€œThere’s 20 dirty hands, for what was allowed, tolerated in the fricking training rooms, the meeting rooms,” Payton said, an apparent reference to Hackett allowing Wilson’s entourage to have an active presence in the facility. 
          
          β€œThe offense. I don’t know Hackett. A lot of people had dirt on their hands. It wasn’t just Russell [Wilson]. He didn’t just flip. He still has it. This B.S. that he hit a wall? Shoot, they couldn’t get a play in. They were 29th in the league in pre-snap penalties on both sides of the ball.”
          
          β€œIt doesn’t happen often where an NFL team or organization gets embarrassed,” Payton told Bell. β€œAnd that happened here. Part of it was their own fault, relative to spending so much fucking time trying to win the offseason β€” the P.R., the pomp and circumstance, marching people around and all this stuff.”
          
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            yeah i read it, and i am a little unsure how to take it

            last year was so obviously a dumpster fire, and you could see how bad the coaching was

            but this feels like someone laying the platform for some excuses later in the year when we are 3rd in teh Division and scratching towards a .500 record.

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              https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38156107/some-commanders-players-concerned-eric-bieniemy-intensity-ron-rivera-says

              Some players complaining about Bienemy's intensity. Maybe they're the problem, and not him?

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                https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38156107/some-commanders-players-concerned-eric-bieniemy-intensity-ron-rivera-says

                Some players complaining about Bienemy's intensity. Maybe they're the problem, and not him?

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                @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

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                  @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

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                  #1645

                  @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                  @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

                  He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he can sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                    @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

                    He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he can sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

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                    @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                    @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                    @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

                    He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he get sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

                    Good for him, good for the franchise and the new owner if it happens

                    Hopefully a better name will helpπŸ˜€

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                      @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                      @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

                      He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he get sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

                      Good for him, good for the franchise and the new owner if it happens

                      Hopefully a better name will helpπŸ˜€

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                      @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                      @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                      @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                      @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

                      He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he get sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

                      Good for him, good for the franchise and the new owner if it happens

                      Hopefully a better name will helpπŸ˜€

                      It will be interesting if they change the name. Make a clean break with the previous owner

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                        They need to change the name - Commanders sucks

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                          They need to change the name - Commanders sucks

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                          @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                          They need to change the name - Commanders sucks

                          I like Avengers. Disney would love it too πŸ˜‰

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                            It's only preseason but jeez Trey Lance looked bad for the 49ers yesterday. Don't let the stats fool you - he was poor. His TD pass was a dropped interception that ricocheted to a 49er standing 5 yards away.

                            I'd say the 49ers are stuck with Lance as he is relatively expensive so it's going to be very hard to trade him but at best he's looking like the 3rd QB on the depth chart.

                            He may yet resurrect his career in a few years on a different team if he can string some starts together (ala Geno Smith) but as a 49er he is going nowhere - he actually looks a poor fit for the Shanahan offense from a skillset point of view too - he has poor footwork and really struggles to throw on time in a timing based offense.

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                              It's only preseason but jeez Trey Lance looked bad for the 49ers yesterday. Don't let the stats fool you - he was poor. His TD pass was a dropped interception that ricocheted to a 49er standing 5 yards away.

                              I'd say the 49ers are stuck with Lance as he is relatively expensive so it's going to be very hard to trade him but at best he's looking like the 3rd QB on the depth chart.

                              He may yet resurrect his career in a few years on a different team if he can string some starts together (ala Geno Smith) but as a 49er he is going nowhere - he actually looks a poor fit for the Shanahan offense from a skillset point of view too - he has poor footwork and really struggles to throw on time in a timing based offense.

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                              @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                              It's only preseason but jeez Trey Lance looked bad for the 49ers yesterday. Don't let the stats fool you - he was poor. His TD pass was a dropped interception that ricocheted to a 49er standing 5 yards away.

                              I'd say the 49ers are stuck with Lance as he is relatively expensive so it's going to be very hard to trade him but at best he's looking like the 3rd QB on the depth chart.

                              He may yet resurrect his career in a few years on a different team if he can string some starts together (ala Geno Smith) but as a 49er he is going nowhere - he actually looks a poor fit for the Shanahan offense from a skillset point of view too - he has poor footwork and really struggles to throw on time in a timing based offense.

                              What a bust, they better hope that Purdy ends up being a decent starter because they gave up a bit to get Lance. The only consolation is that to date, none of the QBs picked lower than him (Fields, Jones) appear to be slam dunk long term starters. But both have potential and are already better than Trey

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                                They traded up to get him. Real Mitch Trubisky areas.

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                                  They traded up to get him. Real Mitch Trubisky areas.

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                                  @barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                  They traded up to get him. Real Mitch Trubisky areas.

                                  QB economics are broken. You kind of have to take a punt and hope it just works. But yeah, looks worse and worse in hindsight

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                                    It's one thing to take a QB that busts, it's another to trade up for said bust QB. The Lance pick didn't make much sense at the time and looks even worse now.

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                                      @barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                      They traded up to get him. Real Mitch Trubisky areas.

                                      QB economics are broken. You kind of have to take a punt and hope it just works. But yeah, looks worse and worse in hindsight

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                                      @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                      @barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                      They traded up to get him. Real Mitch Trubisky areas.

                                      QB economics are broken. You kind of have to take a punt and hope it just works. But yeah, looks worse and worse in hindsight

                                      The only QB who looks like a definite keeper right now is Lawrence. The jury is still out with Fields and Jones. Oh to hop back in the Delorean, take Lance's pick and use it to buy other position players and take Purdy late

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                                      • barbarianB barbarian

                                        It's one thing to take a QB that busts, it's another to trade up for said bust QB. The Lance pick didn't make much sense at the time and looks even worse now.

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                                        @barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                        It's one thing to take a QB that busts, it's another to trade up for said bust QB. The Lance pick didn't make much sense at the time and looks even worse now.

                                        haha, at least you're not the Texans!

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                                          @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                          @barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                          They traded up to get him. Real Mitch Trubisky areas.

                                          QB economics are broken. You kind of have to take a punt and hope it just works. But yeah, looks worse and worse in hindsight

                                          The only QB who looks like a definite keeper right now is Lawrence. The jury is still out with Fields and Jones. Oh to hop back in the Delorean, take Lance's pick and use it to buy other position players and take Purdy late

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                                          @canefan lawrence is dynamite. Really classy.

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