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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    Sean Payton is an arrogant prick but its refreshing to hear a coach talk so candidly to the press.

    Payton destroying last year's Broncos regime

    One for you @mariner4life

    It might have been one of the worst coaching jobs in the history of the NFL,” Payton told Bell. “That’s how bad it was.”
    
    Payton made it clear that “everybody’s got a little stink on their hands,” for what happened last year, even if most of the stench came from Hackett.
    
    “There’s 20 dirty hands, for what was allowed, tolerated in the fricking training rooms, the meeting rooms,” Payton said, an apparent reference to Hackett allowing Wilson’s entourage to have an active presence in the facility. 
    
    “The offense. I don’t know Hackett. A lot of people had dirt on their hands. It wasn’t just Russell [Wilson]. He didn’t just flip. He still has it. This B.S. that he hit a wall? Shoot, they couldn’t get a play in. They were 29th in the league in pre-snap penalties on both sides of the ball.”
    
    “It doesn’t happen often where an NFL team or organization gets embarrassed,” Payton told Bell. “And that happened here. Part of it was their own fault, relative to spending so much fucking time trying to win the offseason — the P.R., the pomp and circumstance, marching people around and all this stuff.”
    
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      yeah i read it, and i am a little unsure how to take it

      last year was so obviously a dumpster fire, and you could see how bad the coaching was

      but this feels like someone laying the platform for some excuses later in the year when we are 3rd in teh Division and scratching towards a .500 record.

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      • canefanC Offline
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        #1643

        https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38156107/some-commanders-players-concerned-eric-bieniemy-intensity-ron-rivera-says

        Some players complaining about Bienemy's intensity. Maybe they're the problem, and not him?

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        • canefanC canefan

          https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38156107/some-commanders-players-concerned-eric-bieniemy-intensity-ron-rivera-says

          Some players complaining about Bienemy's intensity. Maybe they're the problem, and not him?

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          @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

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            @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

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            #1645

            @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

            @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

            He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he can sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

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            • canefanC canefan

              @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

              @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

              He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he can sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

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              @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

              @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

              @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

              He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he get sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

              Good for him, good for the franchise and the new owner if it happens

              Hopefully a better name will help😀

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

                He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he get sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

                Good for him, good for the franchise and the new owner if it happens

                Hopefully a better name will help😀

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                @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                @canefan will be interesting to see how he goes. Fascinating season coming up

                He's basically auditioning for a future HC job. If he get sort out Washington that will be a major feather in his cap

                Good for him, good for the franchise and the new owner if it happens

                Hopefully a better name will help😀

                It will be interesting if they change the name. Make a clean break with the previous owner

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                • KiwiMurphK Offline
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                  They need to change the name - Commanders sucks

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    They need to change the name - Commanders sucks

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                    #1649

                    @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                    They need to change the name - Commanders sucks

                    I like Avengers. Disney would love it too 😉

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                    • KiwiMurphK Offline
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                      It's only preseason but jeez Trey Lance looked bad for the 49ers yesterday. Don't let the stats fool you - he was poor. His TD pass was a dropped interception that ricocheted to a 49er standing 5 yards away.

                      I'd say the 49ers are stuck with Lance as he is relatively expensive so it's going to be very hard to trade him but at best he's looking like the 3rd QB on the depth chart.

                      He may yet resurrect his career in a few years on a different team if he can string some starts together (ala Geno Smith) but as a 49er he is going nowhere - he actually looks a poor fit for the Shanahan offense from a skillset point of view too - he has poor footwork and really struggles to throw on time in a timing based offense.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        It's only preseason but jeez Trey Lance looked bad for the 49ers yesterday. Don't let the stats fool you - he was poor. His TD pass was a dropped interception that ricocheted to a 49er standing 5 yards away.

                        I'd say the 49ers are stuck with Lance as he is relatively expensive so it's going to be very hard to trade him but at best he's looking like the 3rd QB on the depth chart.

                        He may yet resurrect his career in a few years on a different team if he can string some starts together (ala Geno Smith) but as a 49er he is going nowhere - he actually looks a poor fit for the Shanahan offense from a skillset point of view too - he has poor footwork and really struggles to throw on time in a timing based offense.

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                        @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                        It's only preseason but jeez Trey Lance looked bad for the 49ers yesterday. Don't let the stats fool you - he was poor. His TD pass was a dropped interception that ricocheted to a 49er standing 5 yards away.

                        I'd say the 49ers are stuck with Lance as he is relatively expensive so it's going to be very hard to trade him but at best he's looking like the 3rd QB on the depth chart.

                        He may yet resurrect his career in a few years on a different team if he can string some starts together (ala Geno Smith) but as a 49er he is going nowhere - he actually looks a poor fit for the Shanahan offense from a skillset point of view too - he has poor footwork and really struggles to throw on time in a timing based offense.

                        What a bust, they better hope that Purdy ends up being a decent starter because they gave up a bit to get Lance. The only consolation is that to date, none of the QBs picked lower than him (Fields, Jones) appear to be slam dunk long term starters. But both have potential and are already better than Trey

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                        • barbarianB Offline
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                          #1652

                          They traded up to get him. Real Mitch Trubisky areas.

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                            They traded up to get him. Real Mitch Trubisky areas.

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                            @barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                            They traded up to get him. Real Mitch Trubisky areas.

                            QB economics are broken. You kind of have to take a punt and hope it just works. But yeah, looks worse and worse in hindsight

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                              It's one thing to take a QB that busts, it's another to trade up for said bust QB. The Lance pick didn't make much sense at the time and looks even worse now.

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                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                @barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                They traded up to get him. Real Mitch Trubisky areas.

                                QB economics are broken. You kind of have to take a punt and hope it just works. But yeah, looks worse and worse in hindsight

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                                @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                @barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                They traded up to get him. Real Mitch Trubisky areas.

                                QB economics are broken. You kind of have to take a punt and hope it just works. But yeah, looks worse and worse in hindsight

                                The only QB who looks like a definite keeper right now is Lawrence. The jury is still out with Fields and Jones. Oh to hop back in the Delorean, take Lance's pick and use it to buy other position players and take Purdy late

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                                • barbarianB barbarian

                                  It's one thing to take a QB that busts, it's another to trade up for said bust QB. The Lance pick didn't make much sense at the time and looks even worse now.

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                                  @barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                  It's one thing to take a QB that busts, it's another to trade up for said bust QB. The Lance pick didn't make much sense at the time and looks even worse now.

                                  haha, at least you're not the Texans!

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                    @barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                    They traded up to get him. Real Mitch Trubisky areas.

                                    QB economics are broken. You kind of have to take a punt and hope it just works. But yeah, looks worse and worse in hindsight

                                    The only QB who looks like a definite keeper right now is Lawrence. The jury is still out with Fields and Jones. Oh to hop back in the Delorean, take Lance's pick and use it to buy other position players and take Purdy late

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                                    @canefan lawrence is dynamite. Really classy.

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @canefan lawrence is dynamite. Really classy.

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                                      @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                      @canefan lawrence is dynamite. Really classy.

                                      He had a rocky start, but if they can put a decent team around him he looks the goods

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                        It's only preseason but jeez Trey Lance looked bad for the 49ers yesterday. Don't let the stats fool you - he was poor. His TD pass was a dropped interception that ricocheted to a 49er standing 5 yards away.

                                        I'd say the 49ers are stuck with Lance as he is relatively expensive so it's going to be very hard to trade him but at best he's looking like the 3rd QB on the depth chart.

                                        He may yet resurrect his career in a few years on a different team if he can string some starts together (ala Geno Smith) but as a 49er he is going nowhere - he actually looks a poor fit for the Shanahan offense from a skillset point of view too - he has poor footwork and really struggles to throw on time in a timing based offense.

                                        What a bust, they better hope that Purdy ends up being a decent starter because they gave up a bit to get Lance. The only consolation is that to date, none of the QBs picked lower than him (Fields, Jones) appear to be slam dunk long term starters. But both have potential and are already better than Trey

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                                        @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                        The only consolation is that to date, none of the QBs picked lower than him (Fields, Jones) appear to be slam dunk long term starters. But both have potential and are already better than Trey

                                        So is Purdy and he is cheaper than Fields or Jones

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                          The only consolation is that to date, none of the QBs picked lower than him (Fields, Jones) appear to be slam dunk long term starters. But both have potential and are already better than Trey

                                          So is Purdy and he is cheaper than Fields or Jones

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                          @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                          The only consolation is that to date, none of the QBs picked lower than him (Fields, Jones) appear to be slam dunk long term starters. But both have potential and are already better than Trey

                                          So is Purdy and he is cheaper than Fields or Jones

                                          Absolutely. I was only talking about the high draft picks. Purdy has the potential to surpass them all

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