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Super Rugby - Who's it going to be?

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="canefan" data-cid="599815" data-time="1469348179"><p>We won the shield off the mooloos and only managed one defence (Marlborough) before Canterbury took it off us.  I still remember Wayne Smith's try in Bernie's corner</p></blockquote><br>FMD Bernie's corner, what memories that brings back.<br><br>It is a Sunday night and you have actually brought a few memories back with your mention of that, so I hope you don't mind if I just mention them quickly,<br>despite living in Upper Hutt I grew up in the TRON as a youngster so followed Waikato intensely.<br><br>I recall the general fever about the Mooloo's run with the shield and the Arthur Stone intercept. We even had our own song on the radio went something like this:<br>"Up and under there she goes,<br>Are you ready yes or no,<br>Up and under there she goes<br>that's the sound of the waikato front row".<br><br>Back in those days the most esteemed position to play I recall was in the front row.<br><br>The Radio was quite good those days, there was also a very good number about yer Cantabs during their magnificent run with shield something about<br>"red and black's got the shield etc"<br><br>Good times 🙂

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      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hurricane" data-cid="599819" data-time="1469348926">
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      <p>FMD Bernie's corner, what memories that brings back.<br><br>
      It is a Sunday night and you have actually brought a few memories back with your mention of that, so I hope you don't mind if I just mention them quickly,<br>
      despite living in Upper Hutt I grew up in the TRON as a youngster so followed Waikato intensely.<br><br>
      I recall the general fever about the Mooloo's run with the shield and the Arthur Stone intercept. We even had our own song on the radio went something like this:<br>
      "Up and under there she goes,<br>
      Are you ready yes or no,<br>
      Up and under there she goes<br>
      that's the sound of the waikato front row".<br><br>
      Back in those days the most esteemed position to play I recall was in the front row.<br><br>
      The Radio was quite good those days, there was also a very good number about yer Cantabs during their magnificent run with shield something about<br>
      "red and black's got the shield etc"<br><br>
      Good times :)</p>
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      <p>The Cantab tenure and the Orcs era after that were two of the greatest ever</p>

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        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="canefan" data-cid="599821" data-time="1469349418"><p>The Cantab tenure and the Orcs era after that were two of the greatest ever</p></blockquote><br>What year was the match Cantabs lost it to Auckland (the Ranfurly shield). 1985? I think I found it.

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          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hurricane" data-cid="599823" data-time="1469349611">
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          <p>What year was the match Cantabs lost it to Auckland (the Ranfurly shield). 1985? I think I found it.</p>
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          <p>I remember the orcs scoring and the crowd were almost spilling into the in goal Lancaster Park was so full</p>

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            I remember JK deliberately slapping the ball over the dead ball line at the end. Should have been a penalty. The Cantabs were robbed!

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              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crazy Horse" data-cid="600056" data-time="1469421689"><p>I remember JK deliberately slapping the ball over the dead ball line at the end. Should have been a penalty. The Cantabs were robbed!</p></blockquote><br>I watched the last gripping 15 minutes on youtube last night. Had me on the edge of my seat still after all of these years. Boy lineouts were a joke before lifting was allowed.<br><br>My overriding feeling watching the match back in 1985 was that Cantabs simply didn't beleive they could beat Auckland until the very end when they<br>got a roll on. And you get that vibe from the youtube clip. You can actually almost see the Cantabs get their tails up with ten minutes to go.

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                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hurricane" data-cid="600109" data-time="1469432298">
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                <p>I watched the last gripping 15 minutes on youtube last night. Had me on the edge of my seat still after all of these years. Boy lineouts were a joke before lifting was allowed.<br><br>
                My overriding feeling watching the match back in 1985 was that Cantabs simply didn't beleive they could beat Auckland until the very end when they<br>
                got a roll on. And you get that vibe from the youtube clip. You can actually almost see the Cantabs get their tails up with ten minutes to go.</p>
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                <p> </p>
                <p>I was at that game. There was no shortage of belief that we would win before the match - we did not fear Auckland in 1985 - but, by halftime belief had pretty much dissipated, at least among the crowd.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>One of the greatest comebacks (and matches) ever. Certainly the best match I've ever been to.</p>

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                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="600111" data-time="1469432778"><p>I was at that game. There was no shortage of belief that we would win before the match - we did not fear Auckland in 1985 - but, by halftime belief had pretty much dissipated, at least among the crowd.<br> <br>One of the greatest comebacks (and matches) ever. Certainly the best match I've ever been to.</p></blockquote><br>Well I am very envious. I treasure the memory of simply watching that fantastic encounter on TV let alone being at the match. It had always<br>been my belief though up until your post that Cantabs were a bit in awe of AKL, perhaps it was quotes in the media or just the way the media built it up.<br>I appreciate you letting me know that the players and general vibe was positive though going into it, that is quite interesting.<br><br>The sound of the crowd when canterbury scored their final try was tremendous even on the clip.

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                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hurricane" data-cid="599819" data-time="1469348926">
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                    <p>I recall the general fever about the Mooloo's run with the shield and the Arthur Stone intercept.</p>
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                    <p> </p>
                    <p>I used to enjoy the Mooloo parades as a young fella in the early 1980s.  Rugby Park was packed in 1980-81 for those RS games.  The loss to Wellington mentioned above was played on a Wed afternoon.  My mates and I left school early to go to the game.  Wellington had a classy backline then.</p>
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                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
                    <p> </p>
                    We even had our own song on the radio went something like this:<br>
                    "Up and under there she goes,<br>
                    Are you ready yes or no,<br>
                    Up and under there she goes<br>
                    that's the sound of the waikato front row".</blockquote>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>The full song was:</p>
                    <p>Now here's a little story about some lads I know</p>
                    <p>They're known throughout the country as the Waikato front row</p>
                    <p>They've got a little chorus and a chorus we all know</p>
                    <p>So tell me are you ready? Yes. Up and under here we go.......</p>
                    <p>And it's up and under here we go</p>
                    <p>Are you ready, yes or no</p>
                    <p>Up and Under here we go</p>
                    <p>It's the song of the Waikato front row</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Well it was 1980!  🙂  Back then Searancke, Bennett and Koteka looked like front rowers.</p>

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                      <p>I think you guys lost me somewhere at the end of the previous page ...  😕</p>

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                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="600111" data-time="1469432778"><p>
                        I was at that game. There was no shortage of belief that we would win before the match - we did not fear Auckland in 1985 - but, by halftime belief had pretty much dissipated, at least among the crowd.<br><br>
                        One of the greatest comebacks (and matches) ever. Certainly the best match I've ever been to.</p></blockquote>
                        <br>
                        I was at the game too. Brilliant atmosphere. The embankment was spilling over. I remember confidence from the crowd and the players, but also a real apprehension because everyone knew that Auckland team was fucking good. <br><br>
                        That was one hell of an era. I went to every Saturday defence. I would then rush home to watch the highlights at 4pm (hard to imagine games weren't broadcast live back then). As a young fella it is what got me hooked on rugby.

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                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="600181" data-time="1469448755">
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                          <p>I think you guys lost me somewhere at the end of the previous page ...  😕</p>
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                          <p>It's al right, we've got this:</p>
                          <p> </p>
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                          <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='

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                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Hmm, why isn't it embedding? Anyway, SFW.</p>

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                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="canefan" data-cid="599815" data-time="1469348179"><p>
                            We won the shield off the mooloos and only managed one defence (Marlborough) before Canterbury took it off us. I still remember Wayne Smith's try in Bernie's corner</p></blockquote>
                            <br>
                            Not my recollection.<br><br>
                            You had it for a season at least I thought. Some bloody good challenges too. Until [Quinster]"Awaay to Wayne Smith ... a strong run by Wayne Smith ... aaand a brilliant try to Wayne Smith!"[/Quinster]

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                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="600265" data-time="1469486175">
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                              <p>Not my recollection.<br><br>
                              You had it for a season at least I thought. Some bloody good challenges too. Until [Quinster]"Awaay to Wayne Smith ... a strong run by Wayne Smith ... aaand a brilliant try to Wayne Smith!"[/Quinster]</p>
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                              <p> </p>
                              <p>A quick check shows Wellington beat Waikato in the last RS game of 1981.  Wellington then defended the RS against Marlborough, Wanganui, Hawke's Bay and Taranaki before losing to Canterbury.  Canterbury were lucky not to lose the RS in their first defence - a 15-all draw with Counties.</p>
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                              <p>I went to the Canterbury-Hawke's Bay RS game in 1983.  The weather was terrible.</p>

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                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="600270" data-time="1469487127"><p>
                                A quick check shows Wellington beat Waikato in the last RS game of 1981. Wellington then defended the RS against Marlborough, Wanganui, Hawke's Bay and Taranaki before losing to Canterbury. Canterbury were lucky not to lose the RS in their first defence - a 15-all draw with Counties.<br><br>
                                I went to the Canterbury-Hawke's Bay RS game in 1983. The weather was terrible.</p></blockquote>
                                <br>
                                Robbie Deans kicked a last minute penalty from near the half way mark to give Canterbury the draw. That was when I first noticed Robbie.

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                                  <p>I still sing the proclaimers re-write they must have used in the 90s</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>"we're on our way</p>
                                  <p>to lift the shield from Eden Park today</p>
                                  <p>Mooloo, Mooloo, Mooloo Mooloo</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>We're on our way</p>
                                  <p>to lift the shield from Eden Park today-ay-ay-ay</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>something something</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>We want the rugby shield more than anything</p>
                                  <p>ooo oooo ooo ooo</p>
                                  <p>It's time for us to sing</p>
                                  <p>We're sitting on the log of wood</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>ah the good old days where the log really meant something. Foster scoring to nick it off the Aucks. Naki fucking winning it. Harbour (and Wellington's. oh, and Otago's) ongoing Shield heartbreak. Fucking Matt Carrington that fluffybunny. But then Wayne Ormond and Glen fucking Jackson!! you beauty!</p>

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                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crazy Horse" data-cid="600274" data-time="1469487840">
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                                    <p>Robbie Deans kicked a last minute penalty from near the half way mark to give Canterbury the draw. That was when I first noticed Robbie.</p>
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                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Give it a boot, Robbie. Give it a boot</p>
                                    <p>When the heat's on Robbie's got his boots on</p>
                                    <p>Boot it Robbie!</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Crazy Horse is right though - there was some apprehension because the Orcs had cleaned our clocks in 1984 at EP. But, in '83 they'd come down talking up their new unstoppable superstar, JK, and we'd stuffed them badly.</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>We were in the pub the night before the Auckland game and a Maori guy was in there - I think he was wearing an Auckland jersey. As we were leaving, he said to us, "You boys think you're going to win tomorrow, don't you. That would be a fucking joke!" We gave him a bit of shit back and left.</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Early in the second half most of the Aucklanders were sitting in the northeast corner of LP (No. 3 stand?) and they started celebrating and singing something along the lines of "we've won the shield". And then we scored and they shut up. And then they started and were stopped again. For the last 10 minutes you could have given them megaphones and they wouldn't have been heard.</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Great days - but a different time.</p>

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                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="600175" data-time="1469446950"><p>The full song was:<br>Now here's a little story about some lads I know<br>They're known throughout the country as the Waikato front row<br>They've got a little chorus and a chorus we all know<br>So tell me are you ready? Yes. Up and under here we go.......<br>And it's up and under here we go<br>Are you ready, yes or no<br>Up and Under here we go<br>It's the song of the Waikato front row</p></blockquote><br>Thanks very much for this!!!<br><br>I don't want to be OTT - but I remember that song well and associate childhood memories with it, so to have the actual lyrics is amazing to me.

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                                        Lad's is there an online archive of all the 1980s provincial matches? Anyone? Just want to search for a particular old match.

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                                          <p>Seems to make sense to me. It's not saying two first fives will win the competition, it's saying two first fives will play in the final.</p>

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