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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @Kiwiwomble Yes, that's why many Top 14 clubs have signed so-called RWC jokers (RWC replacement players) on short-term deals (which apparently can not last beyond approx. 14 November).

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    @Stargazer id missd that...thats so fucked up...its one thing general international windows, clubs not wanting their players getting injured for1 or 2 international friendlies....but this is the fucking RWC

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      Hmm, part of the 2003 co-hosting agreement was there was no other rugby on in the countries at the time.

      Interesting they're allowing this.

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @NTA said in Rugby World Cup news:

        https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1691046438170398721

        going to show my ignorance, the top 14 will be playing at the same time as the RWC?

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        @Kiwiwomble said in Rugby World Cup news:

        @NTA said in Rugby World Cup news:

        https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1691046438170398721

        going to show my ignorance, the top 14 will be playing at the same time as the RWC?

        Wow that's farcical. Goes to show rugby union is still run like an amateur game

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        • canefanC canefan

          @Kiwiwomble said in Rugby World Cup news:

          @NTA said in Rugby World Cup news:

          https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1691046438170398721

          going to show my ignorance, the top 14 will be playing at the same time as the RWC?

          Wow that's farcical. Goes to show rugby union is still run like an amateur game

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          Kiwiwomble
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          @canefan this is the same Top14 that is the french league...france...where the world cup is being played.....

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @canefan this is the same Top14 that is the french league...france...where the world cup is being played.....

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            #284

            @Kiwiwomble said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @canefan this is the same Top14 that is the french league...france...where the world cup is being played.....

            Yeah, like I said, farcical

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            • Daffy JaffyD Offline
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              #285

              Full statement on Owen Farrell disciplinary
              England fly-half, Owen Farrell appeared before an independent judicial committee via video link having received a red card for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.13 (A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.) in the Summer Nations Series match between England and Wales on Saturday 12th August 2023.

              The independent Judicial Committee consisting of Adam Casselden SC – Chair, John Langford and David Croft (all from Australia) heard the case, considering all the available evidence and submissions from the player and his representative.

              The player acknowledged that whilst he had committed an act of foul play, he denied that the act was worthy of a red card. After reviewing all the evidence, questioning the player in detail and hearing submissions from the player’s representative, the Committee concluded that the Foul Play Review Officer was wrong, on the balance of probabilities, to upgrade the yellow card issued to the player to a red card. The Committee determined, when applying World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, that mitigation should be applied to the high degree of danger found by the Foul Play Review Officer. The Committee found that a late change in dynamics due to England #2’s interaction in the contact area brought about a sudden and significant change in direction from the ball carrier. In the Committee’s opinion, this mitigation was sufficient to bring the player’s act of foul play below the red car threshold.

              The Committee believe it is important to record, that no criticism is made of the Foul Play Review Officer nor, would any be warranted. Unlike the Foul Play Review Officer the Committee had the luxury of time to deliberate and consider, in private, the incident and the proper application of the Head Contact Process. The Committee believe this is in contrast to the Foul Play Review Officer, who was required to make his decision in a matter of minutes without the benefit of all the additional material including hearing from the player and his legal representative.

              On that basis, the Committee did not uphold the red card and the player is free to play again immediately.

              The Foul Play Review Officer thrown gently under the bus!

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                #286

                Farrell's red card rescinded

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                • MiketheSnowM Offline
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                  I AM FUCKING LIVID

                  This is an absolute fucking farce

                  I really hope he gets clocked the fuck out by a similar illegal hit he dished out

                  Hopefully the Samoans can oblige

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    I AM FUCKING LIVID

                    This is an absolute fucking farce

                    I really hope he gets clocked the fuck out by a similar illegal hit he dished out

                    Hopefully the Samoans can oblige

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                    Daffy Jaffy
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                    #288

                    @MiketheSnow Is it too late to call Brian Lima into the Samoa squad?

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                    • MiketheSnowM Offline
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                      #289

                      I also can't wait for the bleating from the Aussies if one of their own gets clobbered

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                      • NTAN NTA

                        Farrell's red card rescinded

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                        scribe
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                        #290

                        @NTA said in Rugby World Cup news:

                        Farrell's red card rescinded

                        Wow. They did say his KC specialised in success against improbable odds.

                        Look forward to the rationale for the decision.

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                        • canefanC Online
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                          I'm speechless

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                            @NTA said in Rugby World Cup news:

                            Farrell's red card rescinded

                            Wow. They did say his KC specialised in success against improbable odds.

                            Look forward to the rationale for the decision.

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                            @scribe I posted the full statement above :backhand_index_pointing_up_medium-light_skin_tone:

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                            • TimT Away
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                              Bungs are common in other sports organisations.

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                              • MiketheSnowM Offline
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                                And World Rugby just lost the dementia lawsuits

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                                • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                  Full statement on Owen Farrell disciplinary
                                  England fly-half, Owen Farrell appeared before an independent judicial committee via video link having received a red card for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.13 (A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.) in the Summer Nations Series match between England and Wales on Saturday 12th August 2023.

                                  The independent Judicial Committee consisting of Adam Casselden SC – Chair, John Langford and David Croft (all from Australia) heard the case, considering all the available evidence and submissions from the player and his representative.

                                  The player acknowledged that whilst he had committed an act of foul play, he denied that the act was worthy of a red card. After reviewing all the evidence, questioning the player in detail and hearing submissions from the player’s representative, the Committee concluded that the Foul Play Review Officer was wrong, on the balance of probabilities, to upgrade the yellow card issued to the player to a red card. The Committee determined, when applying World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, that mitigation should be applied to the high degree of danger found by the Foul Play Review Officer. The Committee found that a late change in dynamics due to England #2’s interaction in the contact area brought about a sudden and significant change in direction from the ball carrier. In the Committee’s opinion, this mitigation was sufficient to bring the player’s act of foul play below the red car threshold.

                                  The Committee believe it is important to record, that no criticism is made of the Foul Play Review Officer nor, would any be warranted. Unlike the Foul Play Review Officer the Committee had the luxury of time to deliberate and consider, in private, the incident and the proper application of the Head Contact Process. The Committee believe this is in contrast to the Foul Play Review Officer, who was required to make his decision in a matter of minutes without the benefit of all the additional material including hearing from the player and his legal representative.

                                  On that basis, the Committee did not uphold the red card and the player is free to play again immediately.

                                  The Foul Play Review Officer thrown gently under the bus!

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                                  MiketheSnow
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                                  #295

                                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                  Full statement on Owen Farrell disciplinary
                                  England fly-half, Owen Farrell appeared before an independent judicial committee via video link having received a red card for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.13 (A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.) in the Summer Nations Series match between England and Wales on Saturday 12th August 2023.

                                  The independent Judicial Committee consisting of Adam Casselden SC – Chair, John Langford and David Croft (all from Australia) heard the case, considering all the available evidence and submissions from the player and his representative.

                                  The player acknowledged that whilst he had committed an act of foul play, he denied that the act was worthy of a red card. After reviewing all the evidence, questioning the player in detail and hearing submissions from the player’s representative, the Committee concluded that the Foul Play Review Officer was wrong, on the balance of probabilities, to upgrade the yellow card issued to the player to a red card. The Committee determined, when applying World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, that mitigation should be applied to the high degree of danger found by the Foul Play Review Officer. The Committee found that a late change in dynamics due to England #2’s interaction in the contact area brought about a sudden and significant change in direction from the ball carrier. In the Committee’s opinion, this mitigation was sufficient to bring the player’s act of foul play below the red car threshold.

                                  The Committee believe it is important to record, that no criticism is made of the Foul Play Review Officer nor, would any be warranted. Unlike the Foul Play Review Officer the Committee had the luxury of time to deliberate and consider, in private, the incident and the proper application of the Head Contact Process. The Committee believe this is in contrast to the Foul Play Review Officer, who was required to make his decision in a matter of minutes without the benefit of all the additional material including hearing from the player and his legal representative.

                                  On that basis, the Committee did not uphold the red card and the player is free to play again immediately.

                                  The Foul Play Review Officer thrown gently under the bus!

                                  Is this a bigger political play from representatives of the SH to justify no RC and for the world to adopt 20 min RC?

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                                    #296

                                    Leaked pictures from Owen Farrell’s all-Australian hearing
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                                      game_film
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                                      I don’t know how I can watch this game anymore. Ta’avao is a red. Porter a yellow and Farrell is…. this. I have no idea what’s going on!

                                      World Rugby and the RFU in particular have spent years telling us one thing then do the other.

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                                        What a fucking joke rugby is nowadays.

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                                          It is doubly shameful when you consider how many times Farrell got away with these shoulder charges before.

                                          Wasn't Angus Gardner the ref when Farrell clobbered Esterhuizen which sealed their win vs the Boks? Do Aussies love him?

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