Rugby World Cup general discussion
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@Kiwiwomble said in Rugby World Cup news:
@NTA said in Rugby World Cup news:
going to show my ignorance, the top 14 will be playing at the same time as the RWC?
Wow that's farcical. Goes to show rugby union is still run like an amateur game
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@canefan this is the same Top14 that is the french league...france...where the world cup is being played.....
@Kiwiwomble said in Rugby World Cup news:
@canefan this is the same Top14 that is the french league...france...where the world cup is being played.....
Yeah, like I said, farcical
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Full statement on Owen Farrell disciplinary
England fly-half, Owen Farrell appeared before an independent judicial committee via video link having received a red card for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.13 (A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.) in the Summer Nations Series match between England and Wales on Saturday 12th August 2023.The independent Judicial Committee consisting of Adam Casselden SC – Chair, John Langford and David Croft (all from Australia) heard the case, considering all the available evidence and submissions from the player and his representative.
The player acknowledged that whilst he had committed an act of foul play, he denied that the act was worthy of a red card. After reviewing all the evidence, questioning the player in detail and hearing submissions from the player’s representative, the Committee concluded that the Foul Play Review Officer was wrong, on the balance of probabilities, to upgrade the yellow card issued to the player to a red card. The Committee determined, when applying World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, that mitigation should be applied to the high degree of danger found by the Foul Play Review Officer. The Committee found that a late change in dynamics due to England #2’s interaction in the contact area brought about a sudden and significant change in direction from the ball carrier. In the Committee’s opinion, this mitigation was sufficient to bring the player’s act of foul play below the red car threshold.
The Committee believe it is important to record, that no criticism is made of the Foul Play Review Officer nor, would any be warranted. Unlike the Foul Play Review Officer the Committee had the luxury of time to deliberate and consider, in private, the incident and the proper application of the Head Contact Process. The Committee believe this is in contrast to the Foul Play Review Officer, who was required to make his decision in a matter of minutes without the benefit of all the additional material including hearing from the player and his legal representative.
On that basis, the Committee did not uphold the red card and the player is free to play again immediately.
The Foul Play Review Officer thrown gently under the bus!
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I AM FUCKING LIVID
This is an absolute fucking farce
I really hope he gets clocked the fuck out by a similar illegal hit he dished out
Hopefully the Samoans can oblige
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I AM FUCKING LIVID
This is an absolute fucking farce
I really hope he gets clocked the fuck out by a similar illegal hit he dished out
Hopefully the Samoans can oblige
@MiketheSnow Is it too late to call Brian Lima into the Samoa squad?
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I also can't wait for the bleating from the Aussies if one of their own gets clobbered
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@NTA said in Rugby World Cup news:
Farrell's red card rescinded
Wow. They did say his KC specialised in success against improbable odds.
Look forward to the rationale for the decision.
@scribe I posted the full statement above :backhand_index_pointing_up_medium-light_skin_tone:
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And World Rugby just lost the dementia lawsuits
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Full statement on Owen Farrell disciplinary
England fly-half, Owen Farrell appeared before an independent judicial committee via video link having received a red card for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.13 (A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.) in the Summer Nations Series match between England and Wales on Saturday 12th August 2023.The independent Judicial Committee consisting of Adam Casselden SC – Chair, John Langford and David Croft (all from Australia) heard the case, considering all the available evidence and submissions from the player and his representative.
The player acknowledged that whilst he had committed an act of foul play, he denied that the act was worthy of a red card. After reviewing all the evidence, questioning the player in detail and hearing submissions from the player’s representative, the Committee concluded that the Foul Play Review Officer was wrong, on the balance of probabilities, to upgrade the yellow card issued to the player to a red card. The Committee determined, when applying World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, that mitigation should be applied to the high degree of danger found by the Foul Play Review Officer. The Committee found that a late change in dynamics due to England #2’s interaction in the contact area brought about a sudden and significant change in direction from the ball carrier. In the Committee’s opinion, this mitigation was sufficient to bring the player’s act of foul play below the red car threshold.
The Committee believe it is important to record, that no criticism is made of the Foul Play Review Officer nor, would any be warranted. Unlike the Foul Play Review Officer the Committee had the luxury of time to deliberate and consider, in private, the incident and the proper application of the Head Contact Process. The Committee believe this is in contrast to the Foul Play Review Officer, who was required to make his decision in a matter of minutes without the benefit of all the additional material including hearing from the player and his legal representative.
On that basis, the Committee did not uphold the red card and the player is free to play again immediately.
The Foul Play Review Officer thrown gently under the bus!
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Rugby World Cup news:
Full statement on Owen Farrell disciplinary
England fly-half, Owen Farrell appeared before an independent judicial committee via video link having received a red card for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.13 (A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.) in the Summer Nations Series match between England and Wales on Saturday 12th August 2023.The independent Judicial Committee consisting of Adam Casselden SC – Chair, John Langford and David Croft (all from Australia) heard the case, considering all the available evidence and submissions from the player and his representative.
The player acknowledged that whilst he had committed an act of foul play, he denied that the act was worthy of a red card. After reviewing all the evidence, questioning the player in detail and hearing submissions from the player’s representative, the Committee concluded that the Foul Play Review Officer was wrong, on the balance of probabilities, to upgrade the yellow card issued to the player to a red card. The Committee determined, when applying World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, that mitigation should be applied to the high degree of danger found by the Foul Play Review Officer. The Committee found that a late change in dynamics due to England #2’s interaction in the contact area brought about a sudden and significant change in direction from the ball carrier. In the Committee’s opinion, this mitigation was sufficient to bring the player’s act of foul play below the red car threshold.
The Committee believe it is important to record, that no criticism is made of the Foul Play Review Officer nor, would any be warranted. Unlike the Foul Play Review Officer the Committee had the luxury of time to deliberate and consider, in private, the incident and the proper application of the Head Contact Process. The Committee believe this is in contrast to the Foul Play Review Officer, who was required to make his decision in a matter of minutes without the benefit of all the additional material including hearing from the player and his legal representative.
On that basis, the Committee did not uphold the red card and the player is free to play again immediately.
The Foul Play Review Officer thrown gently under the bus!
Is this a bigger political play from representatives of the SH to justify no RC and for the world to adopt 20 min RC?
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Leaked pictures from Owen Farrell’s all-Australian hearing
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I’m going to be at the WC and it will be great to enjoy it with friends, but I’ve cancelled my rugby subscription and I don’t think I’ll be restarting it. (For next year). I’ll likely only see the Ab games and those that I have tickets for.
Nowadays the really wow moments are getting lost in the WTF flood. I wouldn’t be a referee and they are being let down by the powers that be. Whoever wins the WC is just as likely (maybe more) to owe it to law application than talent. Neat if that is NZ, so maybe the bright side is to watch with no expectations.
Doesn’t feel like a great consumer product though.
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