2023 School Rugby
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@Bovidae Do you know why is the final at TBC? Is it rotated around, as surely Hamilton would be top qualifiers as they won the Super 8 and beat TBC in the round robin?
@Nepia said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Bovidae Do you know why is the final at TBC? Is it rotated around, as surely Hamilton would be top qualifiers as they won the Super 8 and beat TBC in the round robin?
I asked the same question myself, and no one knew the answer. Hamilton BHS had to go to Tauranga last year for the same game, and played there in the Super 8 RR too.
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@Nepia said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Bovidae Do you know why is the final at TBC? Is it rotated around, as surely Hamilton would be top qualifiers as they won the Super 8 and beat TBC in the round robin?
I asked the same question myself, and no one knew the answer. Hamilton BHS had to go to Tauranga last year for the same game, and played there in the Super 8 RR too.
@Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Nepia said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Bovidae Do you know why is the final at TBC? Is it rotated around, as surely Hamilton would be top qualifiers as they won the Super 8 and beat TBC in the round robin?
I asked the same question myself, and no one knew the answer. Hamilton BHS has to go to Tauranga last year for the same game, and played there in the Super 8 RR too.
Wow, that's just weird.
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Results
Friday 18 August 2023
Chiefs (girls)
Semi-Final
Hamilton GHS 55 - 0 Wesley College
-> winner straight to Top 4 (other SF not played)
Saturday 19 August 2023Auckland 1A
Final
St Kentigern College (1) 29 - 39 Sacred Heart College (2)
-> winner to Blues semi-final (but see below)
Harbour 1A
Final
Westlake BHS (1) 42 - 10 Rosmini College(3)
-> winner straight to Blues FinalPlate
Whangarei BHS (5) 41 - 0 Rangitoto College (6)
Chiefs (boys)
Semi-finals
Tauranga BC 65 - 7 New Plymouth BHS
Hamilton BHS 52 - 5 Wesley College
Hurricanes Cup
Semi-finals
Napier BHS 10 - 19 Palmerston North BHS
Scots College 43 - 35 Feilding HS -> see next post!
South Island (SI boys' Top 4 qualifier)
Final
Southland BHS 29 - 28 Christchurch BHS
-> winner to Top 4
South Island (SI girls' Top 4 qualifier)
Final
Christchurch GSH 27 - 12 Southland GHS
-> winner to Top 4
Monday 21 August 2023Blues (Blues girls' Top 4 qualifier)
Final
Bay of Island College 7 - 82 MAGS
-> winner to Top 4
Wednesday 23 August 2023Blues' boys Semi-Final (Blues Top 4 qualifier)
Whangārei BHS v Sacred Heart College (Auckland 1A winner) - WHANGĀREI DEFAULTED
-> Sacred Heart College straight to Blues Final -
Results
Friday 18 August 2023
Chiefs (girls)
Semi-Final
Hamilton GHS 55 - 0 Wesley College
-> winner straight to Top 4 (other SF not played)
Saturday 19 August 2023Auckland 1A
Final
St Kentigern College (1) 29 - 39 Sacred Heart College (2)
-> winner to Blues semi-final (but see below)
Harbour 1A
Final
Westlake BHS (1) 42 - 10 Rosmini College(3)
-> winner straight to Blues FinalPlate
Whangarei BHS (5) 41 - 0 Rangitoto College (6)
Chiefs (boys)
Semi-finals
Tauranga BC 65 - 7 New Plymouth BHS
Hamilton BHS 52 - 5 Wesley College
Hurricanes Cup
Semi-finals
Napier BHS 10 - 19 Palmerston North BHS
Scots College 43 - 35 Feilding HS -> see next post!
South Island (SI boys' Top 4 qualifier)
Final
Southland BHS 29 - 28 Christchurch BHS
-> winner to Top 4
South Island (SI girls' Top 4 qualifier)
Final
Christchurch GSH 27 - 12 Southland GHS
-> winner to Top 4
Monday 21 August 2023Blues (Blues girls' Top 4 qualifier)
Final
Bay of Island College 7 - 82 MAGS
-> winner to Top 4
Wednesday 23 August 2023Blues' boys Semi-Final (Blues Top 4 qualifier)
Whangārei BHS v Sacred Heart College (Auckland 1A winner) - WHANGĀREI DEFAULTED
-> Sacred Heart College straight to Blues Final@Stargazer said in 2023 School Rugby:
Hurricanes Cup
Semi-finals
Scots College 43 - 35 Feilding HS -> see next post!This final score of the game has been posted on Feilding HS's FB page and this info from the Club Rugby website doesn't appear on their socials:
Scots College are scheduled to meet Palmerston North Boys’ High School in the Hurricanes Boys school final this coming Saturday (scheduled to be played in Palmerston North).
But we understand the result of Scots College’s 42-35 win over Feilding High School on Saturday hasn’t been confirmed yet owing to early injuries to Scots College’s props and possible substitution irregularities. We weren’t there and have sought clarification on this, so it is hoped that when this is made we will be alerted. Update: Still no work on this as of late Monday afternoon.
Feilding posted the below to their social media after the game.
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@Stargazer said in 2023 School Rugby:
Hurricanes Cup
Semi-finals
Scots College 43 - 35 Feilding HS -> see next post!This final score of the game has been posted on Feilding HS's FB page and this info from the Club Rugby website doesn't appear on their socials:
Scots College are scheduled to meet Palmerston North Boys’ High School in the Hurricanes Boys school final this coming Saturday (scheduled to be played in Palmerston North).
But we understand the result of Scots College’s 42-35 win over Feilding High School on Saturday hasn’t been confirmed yet owing to early injuries to Scots College’s props and possible substitution irregularities. We weren’t there and have sought clarification on this, so it is hoped that when this is made we will be alerted. Update: Still no work on this as of late Monday afternoon.
Feilding posted the below to their social media after the game.
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Whakaata Māori will be streaming the Top 4, so Sky must have really pulled back from their coverage. Which games they are streaming is to be confirmed next week.
@Bovidae I'm glad they're picking this up. It's frustrating that Sky is so Auckland-centric and can't be bothered to broadcast games from other parts of the country. The best 1st rugby is not played in the Auckland 1st competition. It's spread all over all competitions.
Whakaata Māori's streams may not have the same quality as Sky broadcasts (not by a long shot) and the commentary isn't always great, but at least they're showing us the games. I've really enjoyed watching the Super 8. I honestly hope they'll be showing all boys and girls games. It's only 8 games. If they can't stream them all, then they should drop both games for 3rd place.
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@Bovidae I'm glad they're picking this up. It's frustrating that Sky is so Auckland-centric and can't be bothered to broadcast games from other parts of the country. The best 1st rugby is not played in the Auckland 1st competition. It's spread all over all competitions.
Whakaata Māori's streams may not have the same quality as Sky broadcasts (not by a long shot) and the commentary isn't always great, but at least they're showing us the games. I've really enjoyed watching the Super 8. I honestly hope they'll be showing all boys and girls games. It's only 8 games. If they can't stream them all, then they should drop both games for 3rd place.
@Stargazer Typically they only used one camera and a local commentary team for the Super 8 games, but did have an extra camera for the Super 8 final and an off-site commentary team. I've no idea who that was, as I haven't watched the stream. They should be able to get some knowledgeable commentators (voluntary or paid). Talking to some of their crew it all comes down to the budget for that particular game.
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@Stargazer I'd like to know if Scots had to play with 14 players as this appears to have been a calculated move by the coaches. If they do keep their win over FAHS they need to have this sorted before playing PNBHS or default.
@Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Stargazer I'd like to know if Scots had to play with 14 players as this appears to have been a calculated move by the coaches. If they do keep their win over FAHS they need to have this sorted before playing PNBHS or default.
thats a bit mad, part of me says you shouldn't be able to play if you dont have the front row reserves, i get it if you have several injuries during the game and then drop to 14...but if they know before then they can train for a different game plan, anyone know when they have to post team lists?
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@Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Stargazer I'd like to know if Scots had to play with 14 players as this appears to have been a calculated move by the coaches. If they do keep their win over FAHS they need to have this sorted before playing PNBHS or default.
thats a bit mad, part of me says you shouldn't be able to play if you dont have the front row reserves, i get it if you have several injuries during the game and then drop to 14...but if they know before then they can train for a different game plan, anyone know when they have to post team lists?
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@Kiwiwomble If schools post line-ups at all, they usually do it the day before the game, but I've also seen schools post them in the morning. I don't think they're bound by the same rules as senior teams.
@Stargazer thought for a big game they might be, even for club rugby no one REALLY checks if we've posted on thursday night...but for finals they do
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@Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Stargazer I'd like to know if Scots had to play with 14 players as this appears to have been a calculated move by the coaches. If they do keep their win over FAHS they need to have this sorted before playing PNBHS or default.
thats a bit mad, part of me says you shouldn't be able to play if you dont have the front row reserves, i get it if you have several injuries during the game and then drop to 14...but if they know before then they can train for a different game plan, anyone know when they have to post team lists?
@Kiwiwomble said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Stargazer I'd like to know if Scots had to play with 14 players as this appears to have been a calculated move by the coaches. If they do keep their win over FAHS they need to have this sorted before playing PNBHS or default.
thats a bit mad, part of me says you shouldn't be able to play if you dont have the front row reserves, i get it if you have several injuries during the game and then drop to 14...but if they know before then they can train for a different game plan, anyone know when they have to post team lists?
Yeah, a school like Scots should be able to have some 2nd XV props ready to go. If it's true that they didn't have reserve props then they should forfeit this win.
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@Kiwiwomble said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Stargazer I'd like to know if Scots had to play with 14 players as this appears to have been a calculated move by the coaches. If they do keep their win over FAHS they need to have this sorted before playing PNBHS or default.
thats a bit mad, part of me says you shouldn't be able to play if you dont have the front row reserves, i get it if you have several injuries during the game and then drop to 14...but if they know before then they can train for a different game plan, anyone know when they have to post team lists?
Yeah, a school like Scots should be able to have some 2nd XV props ready to go. If it's true that they didn't have reserve props then they should forfeit this win.
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@Nepia From what I've heard, Scots' 2nd XV and U15 teams have played uncontested scrums all season!
@Stargazer said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Nepia From what I've heard, Scots' 2nd XV and U15 teams have played uncontested scrums all season!
Da fuq???
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wow...if you dont have the players...you're playing a different game, so they can just field 3 extra loosies and play a completely different game plan to other teams
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wow...if you dont have the players...you're playing a different game, so they can just field 3 extra loosies and play a completely different game plan to other teams
@Kiwiwomble Yeah, it was a comment I overheard, so I couldn't ask any questions. I don't know whether it's true, but if it was a shortage of players across the board, they should probably have moved some 2nd XV players to 1st XV, some older U15 players to 2nd XV and not play U15s. Or merge their 1st and 2nd XV teams.
If it was just a shortage of frontrowers, you'd think they would convert some bigger loosies or midfielders into frontrowers.
