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The Current State of Rugby

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  • BonesB Bones

    @Kiwiwomble I actually only recently tried to figure out if it's actually illegal for an attacking team to collapse a maul. I'd just always thought it was, but couldn't actually figure it out. Is it?

    I guess it's a tough job being a ref.

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    @Bones and it stuff like that that makes me more and more lean towards just letting stuff go and let the team counteract stuff they dont like rather than relying on the ref

    let teams sack mauls, you want to maul it? you better have perfect technique and if you can survive a sack then you're going to have a numerical advantage because the defending team has guys stuck on the ground

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      Enforcing proper binding would help many aspects of the game

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @Bones and it stuff like that that makes me more and more lean towards just letting stuff go and let the team counteract stuff they dont like rather than relying on the ref

        let teams sack mauls, you want to maul it? you better have perfect technique and if you can survive a sack then you're going to have a numerical advantage because the defending team has guys stuck on the ground

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        @Kiwiwomble said in The Current State of Rugby:

        @Bones and it stuff like that that makes me more and more lean towards just letting stuff go and let the team counteract stuff they dont like rather than relying on the ref

        let teams sack mauls, you want to maul it? you better have perfect technique and if you can survive a sack then you're going to have a numerical advantage because the defending team has guys stuck on the ground

        I hate to go al @booboo on you, but it's not illegal to sack a maul 😁

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Kiwiwomble said in The Current State of Rugby:

          @Bones and it stuff like that that makes me more and more lean towards just letting stuff go and let the team counteract stuff they dont like rather than relying on the ref

          let teams sack mauls, you want to maul it? you better have perfect technique and if you can survive a sack then you're going to have a numerical advantage because the defending team has guys stuck on the ground

          I hate to go al @booboo on you, but it's not illegal to sack a maul 😁

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          @Bones isn't it sacking the player rather than the maul? whatever, try and collapse the maul

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @Bones isn't it sacking the player rather than the maul? whatever, try and collapse the maul

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            @Kiwiwomble collapse is illegal you fucken criminal. Been in Australia too long

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Kiwiwomble collapse is illegal you fucken criminal. Been in Australia too long

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              @Bones you're trolling me now

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @Bones you're trolling me now

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                @Kiwiwomble said in The Current State of Rugby:

                @Bones you're trolling me now

                I would fucking never

                p.s. akira ioane may or may not sign for the highlanders

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  Not sure where else to put this, but feel it does give an insight into the state of the game.

                  Was good listening to Ben.

                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-referee-ben-o-keeffe-proud-of-public-response-after-initial-unprecedented-backlash.html

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                  @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                  Not sure where else to put this, but feel it does give an insight into the state of the game.

                  Was good listening to Ben.

                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-referee-ben-o-keeffe-proud-of-public-response-after-initial-unprecedented-backlash.html

                  Cheers. Enjoyed that.

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                    It will look like sour grapes but I felt today was a particular low point in the game.

                    Post World Cup they need to revamp it. The nadir was embodied by the following:

                    Players in conjunction with physios going through a pantomime of feigning injury to get stuff looked at.

                    Props going down "injured" while they have a player in the bin. You can set your watch to it.

                    60 minutes to complete 40 minutes of play.

                    4 cards.

                    Some "held up" tries not looked at that should have been.

                    Moodie and Jordans tries should have stood for me.

                    Nit Picky refereeing that set the stall out early doors, but was then was abandoned as the game went on.

                    I cannot have anyone convince me that tonight a good product was served up.

                    110 pounds ticket price to watch that.

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                      7 forwards and 6 forwards on the respective benches.

                      Puke.

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                        Steve
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                        A good point made on NPR:

                        the 'team yellow concept' needs to be reviewed. Barrett's first yellow was not a stone wall yellow card offence in and of itself, but he takes a yellow for the team. This yellow should not then be tied to the player, but to the team.

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                          Lol defending Barrett. Yes it was a team yellow but he individually was responsible for 3 of those penalties. Two were dumb as fuck.

                          And I would have been happy with a straight red for diving straight on to the back of someone's neck.

                          Fuck him. Deserved anything he got. Dumb ass

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                            Lol defending Barrett. Yes it was a team yellow but he individually was responsible for 3 of those penalties. Two were dumb as fuck.

                            And I would have been happy with a straight red for diving straight on to the back of someone's neck.

                            Fuck him. Deserved anything he got. Dumb ass

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                            @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

                            Lol defending Barrett. Yes it was a team yellow but he individually was responsible for 3 of those penalties. Two were dumb as fuck.

                            And I would have been happy with a straight red for diving straight on to the back of someone's neck.

                            Fuck him. Deserved anything he got. Dumb ass

                            Giving Lavanini a run for his money now.

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                            • S Steve

                              It will look like sour grapes but I felt today was a particular low point in the game.

                              Post World Cup they need to revamp it. The nadir was embodied by the following:

                              Players in conjunction with physios going through a pantomime of feigning injury to get stuff looked at.

                              Props going down "injured" while they have a player in the bin. You can set your watch to it.

                              60 minutes to complete 40 minutes of play.

                              4 cards.

                              Some "held up" tries not looked at that should have been.

                              Moodie and Jordans tries should have stood for me.

                              Nit Picky refereeing that set the stall out early doors, but was then was abandoned as the game went on.

                              I cannot have anyone convince me that tonight a good product was served up.

                              110 pounds ticket price to watch that.

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                              @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

                              It will look like sour grapes but I felt today was a particular low point in the game.

                              Post World Cup they need to revamp it. The nadir was embodied by the following:

                              Players in conjunction with physios going through a pantomime of feigning injury to get stuff looked at.

                              Props going down "injured" while they have a player in the bin. You can set your watch to it.

                              60 minutes to complete 40 minutes of play.

                              4 cards.

                              Some "held up" tries not looked at that should have been.

                              Moodie and Jordans tries should have stood for me.

                              Nit Picky refereeing that set the stall out early doors, but was then was abandoned as the game went on.

                              I cannot have anyone convince me that tonight a good product was served up.

                              110 pounds ticket price to watch that.

                              You are correct

                              It looks like sour grapes

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                              • S Steve

                                A good point made on NPR:

                                the 'team yellow concept' needs to be reviewed. Barrett's first yellow was not a stone wall yellow card offence in and of itself, but he takes a yellow for the team. This yellow should not then be tied to the player, but to the team.

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                                @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                A good point made on NPR:

                                the 'team yellow concept' needs to be reviewed. Barrett's first yellow was not a stone wall yellow card offence in and of itself, but he takes a yellow for the team. This yellow should not then be tied to the player, but to the team.

                                Quoting because this needs more love.

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                                  People knocking the state of Rugby or Test Rugby, consider this. Yesterday’s game sold out with 82,000 tickets purchased in a neutral venue with punters paying at least £110 a ticket.

                                  The gate was bigger than NFL achieves at the same venue, bigger than concerts at Twickenham by Beyoncé, Depeche Mode and Metallica at the same venue in the last decade.

                                  Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    People knocking the state of Rugby or Test Rugby, consider this. Yesterday’s game sold out with 82,000 tickets purchased in a neutral venue with punters paying at least £110 a ticket.

                                    The gate was bigger than NFL achieves at the same venue, bigger than concerts at Twickenham by Beyoncé, Depeche Mode and Metallica at the same venue in the last decade.

                                    Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

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                                    @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                    People knocking the state of Rugby or Test Rugby, consider this. Yesterday’s game sold out with 82,000 tickets purchased in a neutral venue with punters paying at least £110 a ticket.

                                    The gate was bigger than NFL achieves at the same venue, bigger than concerts at Twickenham by Beyoncé, Depeche Mode and Metallica at the same venue in the last decade.

                                    Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

                                    Hear hear

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      People knocking the state of Rugby or Test Rugby, consider this. Yesterday’s game sold out with 82,000 tickets purchased in a neutral venue with punters paying at least £110 a ticket.

                                      The gate was bigger than NFL achieves at the same venue, bigger than concerts at Twickenham by Beyoncé, Depeche Mode and Metallica at the same venue in the last decade.

                                      Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

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                                      @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      Even if what you saw last night wasn’t your cup of tea, be aware there is an enormous international audience who will have loved it.

                                      Everyone who is not an AB supporter!

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                                        Entirely anecdotal... the crowd at Twickenham, followed by a chat with someone in local club rugby this morning, still has me thinking that the game is in very different health in the UK/Europe compared with Australia and NZ.

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                                        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                          Entirely anecdotal... the crowd at Twickenham, followed by a chat with someone in local club rugby this morning, still has me thinking that the game is in very different health in the UK/Europe compared with Australia and NZ.

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                                          @Donsteppa financially they are fortunate to have rich backers as we know plenty are struggling financially

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