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    Machpants
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    Foster is an absolute fluffybunny, I hate him so much as a coach. The worst, by quite some margin, of any ABs coach of a decent period of time, with so many shitty records to his name. And he can't own up when his team puts what is objectively the worst performance ever in black

    "I think both teams deserve a lot of credit, they put a lot into that game and it was a great spectacle."

    What the actual fucking planet is he on? In what way do the ABs deserve credit? For bending over and taking it hard without lube?

    "So, I’d rather have those lessons today, a couple of weeks out than in a fortnight"

    Except they are the same lesson the ABs have been getting since c2017 and you and your fucking bunch of numpties have not learned. STOP FUCKING KICKING ANYTHING BUT LONG IN YOUR 22. Even just that would improve their performance, and the fact it is done every single match means it is your fucking idea. Earn the right to go wide, paly off nine some times, and stop picking obviously past it players. Get a captain with some fucking personality (I know that would just show him up).

    Jesus, I can't wait until next year, a coach with a proven record as head and something beyond the personality of a fucking turnip

    yes I have been drinking

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      Also, speaking of past it players

      Inevitably, coming off the back of a loss last time out is fuelling some of the fire in the All Blacks camp.

      “Absolutely,” Barrett agreed. “That was a huge learning for us around how we didn’t get to the level we needed to and why. Of course, it’s banked. And it’s added to the library of learnings that we have sitting there.”

      Sitting there, not actioned or improved upon, just sitting there

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      • M Machpants

        Foster is an absolute fluffybunny, I hate him so much as a coach. The worst, by quite some margin, of any ABs coach of a decent period of time, with so many shitty records to his name. And he can't own up when his team puts what is objectively the worst performance ever in black

        "I think both teams deserve a lot of credit, they put a lot into that game and it was a great spectacle."

        What the actual fucking planet is he on? In what way do the ABs deserve credit? For bending over and taking it hard without lube?

        "So, I’d rather have those lessons today, a couple of weeks out than in a fortnight"

        Except they are the same lesson the ABs have been getting since c2017 and you and your fucking bunch of numpties have not learned. STOP FUCKING KICKING ANYTHING BUT LONG IN YOUR 22. Even just that would improve their performance, and the fact it is done every single match means it is your fucking idea. Earn the right to go wide, paly off nine some times, and stop picking obviously past it players. Get a captain with some fucking personality (I know that would just show him up).

        Jesus, I can't wait until next year, a coach with a proven record as head and something beyond the personality of a fucking turnip

        yes I have been drinking

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        @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

        Foster is an absolute fluffybunny, I hate him so much as a coach. The worst, by quite some margin, of any ABs coach of a decent period of time, with so many shitty records to his name. And he can't own up when his team puts what is objectively the worst performance ever in black

        "I think both teams deserve a lot of credit, they put a lot into that game and it was a great spectacle."

        What the actual fucking planet is he on? In what way do the ABs deserve credit? For bending over and taking it hard without lube?

        "So, I’d rather have those lessons today, a couple of weeks out than in a fortnight"

        Except they are the same lesson the ABs have been getting since c2017 and you and your fucking bunch of numpties have not learned. STOP FUCKING KICKING ANYTHING BUT LONG IN YOUR 22. Even just that would improve their performance, and the fact it is done every single match means it is your fucking idea. Earn the right to go wide, paly off nine some times, and stop picking obviously past it players. Get a captain with some fucking personality (I know that would just show him up).

        Jesus, I can't wait until next year, a coach with a proven record as head and something beyond the personality of a fucking turnip

        yes I have been drinking

        Absolute gold, mate. Post of the year so far!

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        • FrankF Frank

          Well.....this team sure knows how to get expectations super low before a World Cup.

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          @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

          Well.....this team sure knows how to get expectations super low before a World Cup.

          Who's the ABs bookie?

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            Yeah i really struggle to see what Beauden brings these days. He's no longer fast, he doesn't have a long kicking game and is now shy in contact.

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            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

            Yeah i really struggle to see what Beauden brings these days. He's no longer fast, he doesn't have a long kicking game and is now shy in contact.

            The only thing he ever had was a bullshit plays against the Wallabies, TBF...

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            • NTAN NTA

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

              Yeah i really struggle to see what Beauden brings these days. He's no longer fast, he doesn't have a long kicking game and is now shy in contact.

              The only thing he ever had was a bullshit plays against the Wallabies, TBF...

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              @NTA said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

              Yeah i really struggle to see what Beauden brings these days. He's no longer fast, he doesn't have a long kicking game and is now shy in contact.

              The only thing he ever had was a bullshit plays against the Wallabies, TBF...

              Not at all in his prime he was doing that versus everyone, there is a reason he was known as BBBBB in SA circles

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                @akan004 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                Excellent interview and measured responses

                How he's not captain is baffling

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                • M Machpants

                  Foster is an absolute fluffybunny, I hate him so much as a coach. The worst, by quite some margin, of any ABs coach of a decent period of time, with so many shitty records to his name. And he can't own up when his team puts what is objectively the worst performance ever in black

                  "I think both teams deserve a lot of credit, they put a lot into that game and it was a great spectacle."

                  What the actual fucking planet is he on? In what way do the ABs deserve credit? For bending over and taking it hard without lube?

                  "So, I’d rather have those lessons today, a couple of weeks out than in a fortnight"

                  Except they are the same lesson the ABs have been getting since c2017 and you and your fucking bunch of numpties have not learned. STOP FUCKING KICKING ANYTHING BUT LONG IN YOUR 22. Even just that would improve their performance, and the fact it is done every single match means it is your fucking idea. Earn the right to go wide, paly off nine some times, and stop picking obviously past it players. Get a captain with some fucking personality (I know that would just show him up).

                  Jesus, I can't wait until next year, a coach with a proven record as head and something beyond the personality of a fucking turnip

                  yes I have been drinking

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                  @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                  Foster is an absolute fluffybunny, I hate him so much as a coach. The worst, by quite some margin, of any ABs coach of a decent period of time, with so many shitty records to his name. And he can't own up when his team puts what is objectively the worst performance ever in black

                  "I think both teams deserve a lot of credit, they put a lot into that game and it was a great spectacle."

                  What the actual fucking planet is he on? In what way do the ABs deserve credit? For bending over and taking it hard without lube?

                  "So, I’d rather have those lessons today, a couple of weeks out than in a fortnight"

                  Except they are the same lesson the ABs have been getting since c2017 and you and your fucking bunch of numpties have not learned. STOP FUCKING KICKING ANYTHING BUT LONG IN YOUR 22. Even just that would improve their performance, and the fact it is done every single match means it is your fucking idea. Earn the right to go wide, paly off nine some times, and stop picking obviously past it players. Get a captain with some fucking personality (I know that would just show him up).

                  Jesus, I can't wait until next year, a coach with a proven record as head and something beyond the personality of a fucking turnip

                  yes I have been drinking

                  many a true word spoken in drink

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                    Fuck me how was Boks 14 not penalised for diving on Roigard? No way was he going to stop that score

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                      Is it me or does anyone else think it baffling and ironic in equal measure that the most dominant team in Super Rugby history plays a brand of rugby which is the blueprint for success at International Test level?

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        Is it me or does anyone else think it baffling and ironic in equal measure that the most dominant team in Super Rugby history plays a brand of rugby which is the blueprint for success at International Test level?

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                        @MiketheSnow No, it is not just you. If you followed super rugby this year you would have seen the Chiefs top the table before losing the final to the Crusaders by playing a long territorial kicking game all season with McKenzie and Stevenson.
                        Our coaching / tactics are appalling.

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          Fuck me how was Boks 14 not penalised for diving on Roigard? No way was he going to stop that score

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                          @NTA Yeah I noticed that. And Roigard was also taken out away from the ball at some point and got up holding his head, kind of got face planted.

                          If Malcolm Marx is going to play the ‘look at me I’m injured by foul play’ card, or Sexton and Biggar are constantly berating the ref then you’ve got 2 responses - Carry on playing the old fashioned way or at some point play the same card. Eventually going with option 1 you get taken for a mug.

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                            @ploughboy said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                            jordan was not flash in dunedin. not sticking up forBB just saying

                            Hasn't been given anywhere near enough time in the saddle at 15.

                            Did we really need to see this much of Beaudy, Aaron Smith, Savea, Coles for example over the last two years?

                            4 years on from the last World Cup dual pivot debacle and we still have Beaudy at 15, ALB still floating around, a winger at 13, Aaron Smith being played into the ground. No back up locks. No one with any meaningful minutes at 8 other than Savea. Next cab off the rank is Sotutu and he was jettisoned. Then Sowakula and he was Jettisoned. No one with meaningful minutes at 7 this year other than Cane and we have had locks playing at 6 on and off until the last few matches.

                            DMAC is in, plays well then he is out. Samisoni is in, plays well, then he is out. Leicester is in , plays well and then he is out, Finau is in, plays well and then he is out.

                            Its doing them all a disservice.

                            I still don't know what to make of Jacobsen. I feel he hasn't had enough of a go.

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                            @Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                            @ploughboy said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                            jordan was not flash in dunedin. not sticking up forBB just saying

                            Hasn't been given anywhere near enough time in the saddle at 15.

                            Did we really need to see this much of Beaudy, Aaron Smith, Savea, Coles for example over the last two years?

                            4 years on from the last World Cup dual pivot debacle and we still have Beaudy at 15, ALB still floating around, a winger at 13, Aaron Smith being played into the ground. No back up locks. No one with any meaningful minutes at 8 other than Savea. Next cab off the rank is Sotutu and he was jettisoned. Then Sowakula and he was Jettisoned. No one with meaningful minutes at 7 this year other than Cane and we have had locks playing at 6 on and off until the last few matches.

                            DMAC is in, plays well then he is out. Samisoni is in, plays well, then he is out. Leicester is in , plays well and then he is out, Finau is in, plays well and then he is out.

                            Its doing them all a disservice.

                            I still don't know what to make of Jacobsen. I feel he hasn't had enough of a go.

                            Have to agree with all of that. Still think Ardie is a great but that wasn't his best game. no one played that well bar Cam Roigard when he came on.

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                            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                              Foster is an absolute fluffybunny, I hate him so much as a coach. The worst, by quite some margin, of any ABs coach of a decent period of time, with so many shitty records to his name. And he can't own up when his team puts what is objectively the worst performance ever in black

                              "I think both teams deserve a lot of credit, they put a lot into that game and it was a great spectacle."

                              What the actual fucking planet is he on? In what way do the ABs deserve credit? For bending over and taking it hard without lube?

                              "So, I’d rather have those lessons today, a couple of weeks out than in a fortnight"

                              Except they are the same lesson the ABs have been getting since c2017 and you and your fucking bunch of numpties have not learned. STOP FUCKING KICKING ANYTHING BUT LONG IN YOUR 22. Even just that would improve their performance, and the fact it is done every single match means it is your fucking idea. Earn the right to go wide, paly off nine some times, and stop picking obviously past it players. Get a captain with some fucking personality (I know that would just show him up).

                              Jesus, I can't wait until next year, a coach with a proven record as head and something beyond the personality of a fucking turnip

                              yes I have been drinking

                              many a true word spoken in drink

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                              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                              Foster is an absolute fluffybunny, I hate him so much as a coach. The worst, by quite some margin, of any ABs coach of a decent period of time, with so many shitty records to his name. And he can't own up when his team puts what is objectively the worst performance ever in black

                              "I think both teams deserve a lot of credit, they put a lot into that game and it was a great spectacle."

                              What the actual fucking planet is he on? In what way do the ABs deserve credit? For bending over and taking it hard without lube?

                              "So, I’d rather have those lessons today, a couple of weeks out than in a fortnight"

                              Except they are the same lesson the ABs have been getting since c2017 and you and your fucking bunch of numpties have not learned. STOP FUCKING KICKING ANYTHING BUT LONG IN YOUR 22. Even just that would improve their performance, and the fact it is done every single match means it is your fucking idea. Earn the right to go wide, paly off nine some times, and stop picking obviously past it players. Get a captain with some fucking personality (I know that would just show him up).

                              Jesus, I can't wait until next year, a coach with a proven record as head and something beyond the personality of a fucking turnip

                              yes I have been drinking

                              many a true word spoken in drink

                              In vino veritas

                              Or at least craft beer

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                Is it me or does anyone else think it baffling and ironic in equal measure that the most dominant team in Super Rugby history plays a brand of rugby which is the blueprint for success at International Test level?

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                                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                                Is it me or does anyone else think it baffling and ironic in equal measure that the most dominant team in Super Rugby history plays a brand of rugby which is the blueprint for success at International Test level?

                                Thank god and thor and selma's tits he's head coach next year

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                                  Sonja has spoken and how dare any of us lesser mortals disagree with her? They might as well give the Springboks the Webb Ellis trophy again now.

                                  https://x.com/sonjamclaughlan/status/1695175399540474261?s=46

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                                    Springboks were superb. That double pack is some work of art. Glad the coaches fund Libbok. He was superb last night.

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                                      Yup Carley is pedantic. And the first yellow was a team yellow and Scott Barret had a brain fart for his second. so we played against only 14 men… in a disposable Barbarians “test” where we had a 7/1 bench … Emptied after 45 minutes against a now significantly weakened pack…. Boks have a LOT to work on too … but think after Auckland they were always going to need to fire especially with Siya back. Glad they did but game wasn’t important other than both teams needing to check combinations and have a proper hard 80 especially defensively which we didn’t get nearly as much as they e needed imo. if the table had been flipped and we were playing 14 against 15, I don’t think after 60 minutes we would’ve looked any better. I have no doubt that the World Cup opener against France in two weeks time is going to be nothing like the match we watched last night. There is simply way too much pedigree in both the New Zealand and French squads. I think the Bokke did 14 man ABs a bit of a favour…. Guys are going to be so tight after that...Frogs at home is going to need tight as baseline entry level … Don’t write your guys off after a 14 man BaaBaas sketchy ref warmup…We will see you again shortly I have zero doubt 🤞🏻

                                      Smile of the match was definitely Andrew Mehrtens being spotted on his phone on the big screen and Brian Habana giving him a ribbing😂

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        Foster is an absolute fluffybunny, I hate him so much as a coach. The worst, by quite some margin, of any ABs coach of a decent period of time, with so many shitty records to his name. And he can't own up when his team puts what is objectively the worst performance ever in black

                                        "I think both teams deserve a lot of credit, they put a lot into that game and it was a great spectacle."

                                        What the actual fucking planet is he on? In what way do the ABs deserve credit? For bending over and taking it hard without lube?

                                        "So, I’d rather have those lessons today, a couple of weeks out than in a fortnight"

                                        Except they are the same lesson the ABs have been getting since c2017 and you and your fucking bunch of numpties have not learned. STOP FUCKING KICKING ANYTHING BUT LONG IN YOUR 22. Even just that would improve their performance, and the fact it is done every single match means it is your fucking idea. Earn the right to go wide, paly off nine some times, and stop picking obviously past it players. Get a captain with some fucking personality (I know that would just show him up).

                                        Jesus, I can't wait until next year, a coach with a proven record as head and something beyond the personality of a fucking turnip

                                        yes I have been drinking

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                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                                        And he can't own up when his team puts what is objectively the worst performance ever in black

                                        Utter fucking nonsense.

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                                          And he can't own up when his team puts what is objectively the worst performance ever in black

                                          Utter fucking nonsense.

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                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

                                          And he can't own up when his team puts what is objectively the worst performance ever in black

                                          Utter fucking nonsense.

                                          So a28 point loss isn't objectively the worst ever? Carry on in your dream world. He at no point in the interview admits anything but good learnings. Not 'we didn't prepare well enough' nor 'the tactics weren't quite right' doing shitty little kicks in our 22.Just we will learn. Except they don't and haven't over the last 6 odd years

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