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Nepia

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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

Any idea if we might see any changes to the squad after yesterday? Like Joe Moody coming into the squad.

If Scott Barrett misses any games then surely Lord has to come in

Does anyone know if he automatically misses games for the red card or does he not due to the fact it was for a second yellow? Does he have to go to the judiciary for the second yellow on it's own or because it wasn't upgraded to red then that's the final punishment?

taniwharugby

@Nepia I think as it is a red that is an automatic judicial visit, but hopefully they still see the YC as a YC only and then he should be free to play.

canefan

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:

@Nepia I think as it is a red that is an automatic judicial visit, but hopefully they still see the YC as a YC only and then he should be free to play.

Better check Farrell's lawyer is available

Stargazer

@Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:

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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

Any idea if we might see any changes to the squad after yesterday? Like Joe Moody coming into the squad.

If Scott Barrett misses any games then surely Lord has to come in

Does anyone know if he automatically misses games for the red card or does he not due to the fact it was for a second yellow? Does he have to go to the judiciary for the second yellow on it's own or because it wasn't upgraded to red then that's the final punishment?

A red card, for whatever reason, is always a visit to the jucidiary, but not necessarily a suspension. They'll have a look at both yellow card offenses separately. The first was a team yellow. The second one is the one that will get a closer look. It's definitely possible that they say the sent-off was enough and that he won't be suspended. Fingers crossed they dont' see the 2nd yellow as more than a yellow, or worth a week off.

SBW1

Wonder if they were jetlagged. The Boks and some of the other teams appear to have had a better preparation, particularly playing Wales last week. Did the Abs come over too late, pretty sure they . arrived on Wednesday.

antipodean

@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

@Billy-Tell

On tonight’s evidence things to fix: scrums, lineouts, handling, positional play against the kick and game management by the senior players.

Those are big things to fix just before a RWC.

I’ve lost all optimism tbh. I actually think we can beat France. But not the matches that matter. That was extremely impressive from SA. All the ingredients to win a RWC on display.

It was impressive, but they had a helping hand. And I'd expect a top team to do more with the amazing amount of territory and possession.

booboo

@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

jetlagged

Possible contributer. Along with playing bad and them playing good.

Silly question maybe. But as SA is the same timezone as UK jet-lag would not be an issue for them?

sparky

@booboo And they were in the Uk for the week before. And a few of their players live in Europe.

sparky

@SBW1 ABs arrived last Saturday. So probably had just less than a week to get ready. Not unheard of but not ideal.

Machpants

@booboo said in All Blacks 2023:

@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

jetlagged

Possible contributer. Along with playing bad and them playing good.

Silly question maybe. But as SA is the same timezone as UK jet-lag would not be an issue for them?

Timezone creates jet lag, correct. But flying is still not great for performance athletes. Hardly a new thing, tho

booboo

@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

But flying is still not great for performance athletes.

Can't really comment. Don't do a lot of flying ...

nostrildamus

@booboo said in All Blacks 2023:

@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

But flying is still not great for performance athletes.

Can't really comment. Don't do a lot of flying ...

that explains how you can maintain your high performance fern posting

SBW1

Really think we should have come over earlier and had an extra warmup game against Japan or one of the island nations or even played in Japan.

canefan

@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

Really think we should have come over earlier and had an extra warmup game against Japan or one of the island nations or even played in Japan.

Do we have any more warm up games?

Machpants

France v Oz tomorrow, then that's it until RWC

canefan

I just had a look at the draw.

So if we win or lose to France and qualify A1 or A2, I don't see much difference between playing Ireland or SA in the QF

If we win that game we will be on either side of the draw depending on our pool position

The opponents will either be England, Oz, Wales or Argentina.

So I guess it's possible for us to lose the opener, and meet France in the final if we were to win through?

booboo

@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

I just had a look at the draw. So if we win or lose to France and qualify A1 or A2, I don't see much difference between playing Ireland or SA in the QF

Am not sure what to make of your post Canefan.

You been following this whole World Cup draw thing over the last three years at all?

canefan

@booboo said in All Blacks 2023:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

I just had a look at the draw. So if we win or lose to France and qualify A1 or A2, I don't see much difference between playing Ireland or SA in the QF

Am not sure what to make of your post Canefan.

You been following this whole World Cup draw thing over the last three years at all?

Not really, no

nostrildamus

Strategy smategy. Get through the pool, win the must-win sudden death matches including the final. There, fixed it for Foster.

Machpants

Current rankings - assuming Oz don't beat France & not including minnows
Pool A (who play Pool B in QFs of Death!)
NZ 4th
France 3rd
Italy 13th

Pool B Pool of Death for good teams
SA 2nd
Ireland 1st
Scotland 5th
Tonga 15th

Pool C Real Pool of Death
Wales 10th
Aus 9th
Fiji 7th
Georgia 11th

Pool D
England 8th
Japan 14th
Argentina 6th
Samoa 12th

So it may be shit for teams ranked 1-5 that one can't make quarters and 3 can't make the semi. But they have ended up very tight pools, outside the real minnows

The Silver Fern

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