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    #202

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/300958847/liam-lawson-13th-on-formula-one-debut-as-max-verstappen-wins-rainy-dutch-grand-prix

    13th on debut after starting at the back of the grid, not bad

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    • canefanC Offline
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      #203

      He got a penalty and the team fucked up his pit by bringing both the AT drivers in at the same time. Could have easily finished P9 or 10. Should have enhanced his reputation and will have a chance to race at least once or twice more with Ricciardo out

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        #204

        Lawson got out of Q1 and qualified 12th. One place behind Tsunoda

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        • KiwiMurphK Offline
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          Another impressive showing from Lawson.

          Was pitted twice and finished 11th whilst most others only pitted once.

          Lawson's teammate conked out in the warm up lap.

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            Verstappen is quite spectacular, not the aggressive tool he used to be. Yes he is lead driver and in by far the best car, but he's smashing his team mate as much as the rest of the field

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            • M Machpants

              Verstappen is quite spectacular, not the aggressive tool he used to be. Yes he is lead driver and in by far the best car, but he's smashing his team mate as much as the rest of the field

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              #207

              @Machpants his teammate who easily cruised to second?

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                @Machpants his teammate who easily cruised to second?

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                @Bones said in Formula 1:

                @Machpants his teammate who easily cruised to second?

                Indeed
                But is at well behind in the championship
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                • M Machpants

                  @Bones said in Formula 1:

                  @Machpants his teammate who easily cruised to second?

                  Indeed
                  But is at well behind in the championship
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                  #209

                  @Machpants in second ๐Ÿ˜

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Machpants in second ๐Ÿ˜

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                    #210

                    @Bones said in Formula 1:

                    @Machpants in second ๐Ÿ˜

                    Yup still getting smashed. 12 wins vs 2, 364 points vs 219. I don't get your point. Red Bull are leagues ahead of all the other teams and Verstappen is leagues ahead of Perez.

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                      @Bones said in Formula 1:

                      @Machpants in second ๐Ÿ˜

                      Yup still getting smashed. 12 wins vs 2, 364 points vs 219. I don't get your point. Red Bull are leagues ahead of all the other teams and Verstappen is leagues ahead of Perez.

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                      @Machpants said in Formula 1:

                      @Bones said in Formula 1:

                      @Machpants in second ๐Ÿ˜

                      Yup still getting smashed. 12 wins vs 2, 364 points vs 219. I don't get your point. Red Bull are leagues ahead of all the other teams and Verstappen is leagues ahead of Perez.

                      Oh no doubt Perez isn't as good as Verstappen, but I think it shows the advantage the car has when Perez can drive like shit for half the season and cruise to second. Bearing in mind Perez is clearly deemed as the 2nd driver.

                      Verstappen is something else, but my point is even with an average driver, the car still leads the pack.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @Machpants said in Formula 1:

                        @Bones said in Formula 1:

                        @Machpants in second ๐Ÿ˜

                        Yup still getting smashed. 12 wins vs 2, 364 points vs 219. I don't get your point. Red Bull are leagues ahead of all the other teams and Verstappen is leagues ahead of Perez.

                        Oh no doubt Perez isn't as good as Verstappen, but I think it shows the advantage the car has when Perez can drive like shit for half the season and cruise to second. Bearing in mind Perez is clearly deemed as the 2nd driver.

                        Verstappen is something else, but my point is even with an average driver, the car still leads the pack.

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                        @Bones Isn't that inevitably the case.

                        All the legends of the last 50 years almost inevitably had a far superior car.

                        Alonso and AM would have to be happy with their efforts though.

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                        • Windows97W Online
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                          Windows97
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                          F1 has always been a technology battle, always struck me as odd in regards to the ego's of some F1 drivers knowing full well that if next year they got a dud car they'd be struggling at the foot of the table regardless of how hard they tried.

                          Still keeps the sport entertaining I guess.

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                            Jesus fuck. Unreal to be on board with Lance just as he hit the wall. That was massive and great to see he's ok immediately. Amazing safety in these cars now eh

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                              #215

                              Lawson makes q3, gets 10th 5 spots ahead of Tsunoda.

                              Awesome qualifying both Red Bulls out Q2.

                              Norris destroys Piastri.

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                                #216

                                Great result for Lawson, looking quite at home under the โ€˜bright lightsโ€™ of F1. Riding a positive wave and thatโ€™s what being a rookie in F1 is all about! Onwards and upwards, would be amazing if he could pick up a points finish in one of these two opportunities he probably has left this season.
                                Piastri hasnโ€™t looked quite as comfortable on track at Singapore so far, few good laps but not consistently comfortable. No doubt will be looking forward to also having the full set of upgrades Norris was running on his car for Suzuka.

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                                  Also, nice to see Verstappen and Red Bull are not unstoppable. Not hooking it up in practice doesnโ€™t usually stop them hitting the right lines come qualifying. Will make for an interesting race where overtaking is not so easy.

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                                    #218

                                    Lawson stating his case strongly for a seat next year

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                                      Race of the season!

                                      Awesome Sainz / Norris at the end, and points for Lawson.

                                      Brilliant stuff

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                                        I guess the Japanese driver comes with some money

                                        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/09/motorsport-liam-lawson-reportedly-misses-out-on-2024-formula-one-seat-alphatauri-to-stick-with-daniel-ricciardo-and-yuki-tsunoda.html

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                                          I guess the Japanese driver comes with some money

                                          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/09/motorsport-liam-lawson-reportedly-misses-out-on-2024-formula-one-seat-alphatauri-to-stick-with-daniel-ricciardo-and-yuki-tsunoda.html

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                                          @Machpants said in Formula 1:

                                          I guess the Japanese driver comes with some money

                                          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/09/motorsport-liam-lawson-reportedly-misses-out-on-2024-formula-one-seat-alphatauri-to-stick-with-daniel-ricciardo-and-yuki-tsunoda.html

                                          After watching a bit of Drive to Survive, I totally agree. I did not realise how much having commercial backers who will bring money to the team matters. Lawson is a very talented driver with much less backing. But either way he will be a success, whether it be for AT or RB in future, another F1 team, or in Indy car or anyone else who will pay drivers to race

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