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  • ChrisC Chris

    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

    lean into the heat and pick a side to run France off their feet.

    This part is not going to work also because the Referees are going to slow the game down enough for this not to happen.
    Stoppages,penalties,resets, the Refs will not want to make a mistake so the game will not be a fast one more a grind I think.

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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

    the Refs will not want to make a mistake

    World Rugby really have set them up to fail...on one hand wanting the game sped up, but not giving better direction as to where they can pull players/teams up for slowing.

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

      @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

      lean into the heat and pick a side to run France off their feet.

      This part is not going to work also because the Referees are going to slow the game down enough for this not to happen.
      Stoppages,penalties,resets, the Refs will not want to make a mistake so the game will not be a fast one more a grind I think.

      We faffed around with ALB, RTS and Havili for too long. Then picked McCleod and subsequently jettisoned him.

      dont forget goodhue getting a shot when ever he was briefly fit

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      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

      @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

      @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

      lean into the heat and pick a side to run France off their feet.

      This part is not going to work also because the Referees are going to slow the game down enough for this not to happen.
      Stoppages,penalties,resets, the Refs will not want to make a mistake so the game will not be a fast one more a grind I think.

      We faffed around with ALB, RTS and Havili for too long. Then picked McCleod and subsequently jettisoned him.

      dont forget goodhue getting a shot when ever he was briefly fit

      Jesus yeah.

      That Allblacks XV team was misused too in retrospect.

      Your FInaus, Roigards, Leicesters, Jacobsens etc could have had decent minutes there and an easy enough touch against Japan to get confidence.

      Did anyone from the XV get into the squad? It looks like a completely redundant affair with hindsight.

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      • S Steve

        @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

        lean into the heat and pick a side to run France off their feet.

        This part is not going to work also because the Referees are going to slow the game down enough for this not to happen.
        Stoppages,penalties,resets, the Refs will not want to make a mistake so the game will not be a fast one more a grind I think.

        Yep. Trench warfare.

        We need go forward ball as much as possible. To keep Aldritt et al away from the pill.

        Side to side crabbing from ALB will have us conceding turnover pens, ending up in our own half, poor exits and the shit show that ensues.

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        @Steve

        100%,I have this horrible feeling we are going to revert back to that sideways shit.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

          the Refs will not want to make a mistake

          World Rugby really have set them up to fail...on one hand wanting the game sped up, but not giving better direction as to where they can pull players/teams up for slowing.

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          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:

          @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

          the Refs will not want to make a mistake

          World Rugby really have set them up to fail...on one hand wanting the game sped up, but not giving better direction as to where they can pull players/teams up for slowing.

          Yep Rock and a hard place.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @Steve

            100%,I have this horrible feeling we are going to revert back to that sideways shit.

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            @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

            @Steve

            100%,I have this horrible feeling we are going to revert back to that sideways shit.

            Ive never seen ALB or Havili truck it up with interest. It's all basketball passes and crabbing.

            You could have Lomu and Rokocoko on each wing and they would be getting the ball with a blanket defence drifting on to them.

            Lets hope Foster has kept some serious fucking powder dry.

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

              @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

              lean into the heat and pick a side to run France off their feet.

              This part is not going to work also because the Referees are going to slow the game down enough for this not to happen.
              Stoppages,penalties,resets, the Refs will not want to make a mistake so the game will not be a fast one more a grind I think.

              We faffed around with ALB, RTS and Havili for too long. Then picked McCleod and subsequently jettisoned him.

              dont forget goodhue getting a shot when ever he was briefly fit

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              @Kiwiwomble not for a moment suggesting he should be there, but at NPC (yeah yeah, I know) this year he has provided the direct type of play that we are after at 12 in the ABs...just a shame injury slowed him down, cos he has an excellent rugby brain.

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              • S Steve

                @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                @Steve

                100%,I have this horrible feeling we are going to revert back to that sideways shit.

                Ive never seen ALB or Havili truck it up with interest. It's all basketball passes and crabbing.

                You could have Lomu and Rokocoko on each wing and they would be getting the ball with a blanket defence drifting on to them.

                Lets hope Foster has kept some serious fucking powder dry.

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                @Steve

                If we get smoked in game one v France reverting back to that trying to run teams off their feet in a WC,Were the Fuck to we go from there Game plan B or C.
                I don't think we have one.
                This campaign his going to be a Foster masterpiece or a complete fucking shambles, no middle ground.

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                  LF at 12? Bahahahaaahaha.

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    LF at 12? Bahahahaaahaha.

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                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:

                    LF at 12? Bahahahaaahaha.

                    Bryce Heem would excite me more than ALB or Havili.

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                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:

                      LF at 12? Bahahahaaahaha.

                      Bryce Heem would excite me more than ALB or Havili.

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                      @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:

                      LF at 12? Bahahahaaahaha.

                      Bryce Heem would excite me more than ALB or Havili.

                      ALB can do a job while JB is out. DH is a poor defender and can’t hit the ball up. Makes RM more of a problem, least ALB is a good defender.

                      Suggesting LF is hilarious.

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                        LF at 2nd five brilliant idea can break tackles will get over the advantage line and not play like a crab .
                        Should be fun watching ALB get smoked and running sideways,that should work wonders against the French ,
                        No wonder we are breaking all sorts of unwanted records with that thinking lol,

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                          LF on the bench would make much more sense than Clarke and/or Havili.

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                          • nzzpN nzzp

                            @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                            So we hear tonight if Jordie is going to play? I think it will be Havili if he out, RMo is comfortable with him and Ioane has played a few tests with him, so is obvious replacement to me.

                            Havili was awesome at 12 against weaker opposition. But fark me, Smith Mo'unga Havili has got 'run at me bro' written all over it.

                            Our 12 cupboard is as bare as our 6, and I sheet this home to selections and coaching once again.

                            Wouldn't you love a developed Laumape right now?

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                            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                            So we hear tonight if Jordie is going to play? I think it will be Havili if he out, RMo is comfortable with him and Ioane has played a few tests with him, so is obvious replacement to me.

                            Havili was awesome at 12 against weaker opposition. But fark me, Smith Mo'unga Havili has got 'run at me bro' written all over it.

                            Our 12 cupboard is as bare as our 6, and I sheet this home to selections and coaching once again.

                            Wouldn't you love a developed Laumape right now?

                            I would be happy with a fit Tupaea would do me, I admit to not be concerned about Laumape, he made his decision.

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                              Is there not a thread where I can escape the Steve echo chamber?

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                LF at 12? Bahahahaaahaha.

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                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:

                                LF at 12? Bahahahaaahaha.

                                Yeah, though I wonder if backup to Jordie was their thinking in including him? As we have 1 too many outside backs that's for sure. Still trying to wrap my head around the squad selection. LF would be fine against minnows obviously, but fark me the French would lick their lips at such a rookie starting there in the weekend.

                                Edit - I make that comment as no way in hell he should have gone as purely an outside back when he's off next year and we have plenty of options.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  Is there not a thread where I can escape the Steve echo chamber?

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    lean into the heat and pick a side to run France off their feet.

                                    This part is not going to work also because the Referees are going to slow the game down enough for this not to happen.
                                    Stoppages,penalties,resets, the Refs will not want to make a mistake so the game will not be a fast one more a grind I think.

                                    We faffed around with ALB, RTS and Havili for too long. Then picked McCleod and subsequently jettisoned him.

                                    dont forget goodhue getting a shot when ever he was briefly fit

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    lean into the heat and pick a side to run France off their feet.

                                    This part is not going to work also because the Referees are going to slow the game down enough for this not to happen.
                                    Stoppages,penalties,resets, the Refs will not want to make a mistake so the game will not be a fast one more a grind I think.

                                    We faffed around with ALB, RTS and Havili for too long. Then picked McCleod and subsequently jettisoned him.

                                    dont forget goodhue getting a shot when ever he was briefly fit

                                    Deservedly IMHO

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      Is there not a thread where I can escape the Steve echo chamber?

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                                      @Bones Oh, was just gonna tell you about Fletcher Newell's father flying to South Africa for his test debut and the story behind it. You may shed a tear or 2 after hearing it.......

                                      Meanwhile, there is a Blackadder shaped hole in the ABs squad incase you didn't know.

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                                      • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                        @Bones Oh, was just gonna tell you about Fletcher Newell's father flying to South Africa for his test debut and the story behind it. You may shed a tear or 2 after hearing it.......

                                        Meanwhile, there is a Blackadder shaped hole in the ABs squad incase you didn't know.

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                                        @African-Monkey Only sunshine boys cry.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @African-Monkey Only sunshine boys cry.

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                                          @Bones ALB=Vanilla.

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