RWC Week 1: France v All Blacks
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@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Dalton's selection? He is absolutely world class
I am not sure he has put in enough World class performances at Test Level to call him World class.
@Chris said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Dalton's selection? He is absolutely world class
I am not sure he has put in enough World class performances at Test Level to call him World class.
Apparently Ethan Blackadder has according to the fern though
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@Chris said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Dalton's selection? He is absolutely world class
I am not sure he has put in enough World class performances at Test Level to call him World class.
Apparently Ethan Blackadder has according to the fern though
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I haven't heard he is absolutely World class,More give him a go to see what he can do with a few games under his belt in a row.
And people like his 150% no fear approach.@Chris said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
I haven't heard he is absolutely World class,More give him a go to see what he can do with a few games under his belt in a row.
And people like his 150% no fear approach.That’s slightly more measured than some of what has been said to be fair
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Frank said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Comparing Christie to Nonu, you're reaching new lows here bud
Pretty huge bridge you've built there.
When did I compare Nonu to Christie?
You implied that a decision to pick Nonu despite poor super rugby form was similar to picking Christie on poor super form. It's not, because of the massive gulf in their international experience / quality of previous international performance. The only way the decision would be similar, is if you consider the players are similar.
It's not that big a bridge.@reprobate said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You implied that a decision to pick Nonu despite poor super rugby form was similar to picking Christie on poor super form.
I didn't - I just made the point that picking a player despite poor SR form didn't mean the coach/selectors were inflexible and stupid.
Apparently that's comparing Christie to Nonu or fluffing Foster. A bit bizarre.
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@Chris said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
I haven't heard he is absolutely World class,More give him a go to see what he can do with a few games under his belt in a row.
And people like his 150% no fear approach.That’s slightly more measured than some of what has been said to be fair
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@reprobate said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You implied that a decision to pick Nonu despite poor super rugby form was similar to picking Christie on poor super form.
I didn't - I just made the point that picking a player despite poor SR form didn't mean the coach/selectors were inflexible and stupid.
Apparently that's comparing Christie to Nonu or fluffing Foster. A bit bizarre.
@Victor-Meldrew using Nonu as your example.
The Foster-fluffing (not that I said it) comment I imagine is not related so much to this one post defending a poor decision by him, but your many other posts doing so. You've even been doing it tangentially by having repeated cracks at Ryan on the boks match.
While some of the Foster criticism is over the top, there's also a huge amount of perfectly valid criticism. If you're making a play for both broken record and white knight, it's a decent one. -
@ACT-Crusader I certainly hope so, and I really hope he goes out there and kills it. I love what he does for the Blues, hope he delivers and makes me look like an idiot on Saturday.
@African-Monkey said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader I certainly hope so, and I really hope he goes out there and kills it. I love what he does for the Blues, hope he delivers and makes me look like an idiot on Saturday.
It's not ideal and it smacks of a bit of desperation / let's try something different, but I really hope he goes well. He will have to play close to his best ever footy to hold his own against a quality forward pack that like to hit the tackle hard when the ball goes to ground.
i'm nervously excited...
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@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
We have a pretty significant lack of depth at halfback right now
Right now? There's been a lack of depth at 9 (and in a fair number of other positions) for the last 4-5 years.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
We have a pretty significant lack of depth at halfback right now
Right now? There's been a lack of depth at 9 (and in a fair number of other positions) for the last 4-5 years.
No, we don't lack depth at nine at all, Roigard is an awesome player. he should be on the bench. We only 'lack depth' cos Foster puts ginger Scottish losers in the team
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
We have a pretty significant lack of depth at halfback right now
Right now? There's been a lack of depth at 9 (and in a fair number of other positions) for the last 4-5 years.
No, we don't lack depth at nine at all, Roigard is an awesome player. he should be on the bench. We only 'lack depth' cos Foster puts ginger Scottish losers in the team
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@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
What the hell is with the ire towards Dalton's selection? He is absolutely world class and a real leader in the pack. One quiet game against Ireland doesn't change all of that. I am very pleased to see him starting this test, and hoping he brings his A game as he is so influential when on form.
I don't think anyone disputes Papalii's qualities. More of a discussion around it being an imbalanced trio.
@frugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
What the hell is with the ire towards Dalton's selection? He is absolutely world class and a real leader in the pack. One quiet game against Ireland doesn't change all of that. I am very pleased to see him starting this test, and hoping he brings his A game as he is so influential when on form.
I don't think anyone disputes Papalii's qualities. More of a discussion around it being an imbalanced trio.
If I was in charge I'd have Paps as the starting 7
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@reprobate said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You implied that a decision to pick Nonu despite poor super rugby form was similar to picking Christie on poor super form.
I didn't - I just made the point that picking a player despite poor SR form didn't mean the coach/selectors were inflexible and stupid.
Apparently that's comparing Christie to Nonu or fluffing Foster. A bit bizarre.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@reprobate said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You implied that a decision to pick Nonu despite poor super rugby form was similar to picking Christie on poor super form.
I didn't - I just made the point that picking a player despite poor SR form didn't mean the coach/selectors were inflexible and stupid.
Apparently that's comparing Christie to Nonu or fluffing Foster. A bit bizarre.
In the contex of everything you've said and implied around Foster, Robertson and the NZRU, one could be forgiven that when you said Christie had junk Super Rugby form and is picked for the ABs, and Ma'a had similar form, that yes, you were comparing them directly.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
We have a pretty significant lack of depth at halfback right now
Right now? There's been a lack of depth at 9 (and in a fair number of other positions) for the last 4-5 years.
No, we don't lack depth at nine at all, Roigard is an awesome player. he should be on the bench. We only 'lack depth' cos Foster puts ginger Scottish losers in the team
@Machpants tbf prior to Roigards emergence there was an issue in depth at 9, but the lack of time given has still highlighted a bit of an issue in developing some players.
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We have some depth at halfback but they lack experience at the highest level. That's to be expected when only one position in the squad has been available in recent years (after Smith and TJP).
Next year will be fun as there are a number of halfbacks could become the starting 9.
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I haven't heard he is absolutely World class,More give him a go to see what he can do with a few games under his belt in a row.
And people like his 150% no fear approach.@Chris said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
I haven't heard he is absolutely World class,More give him a go to see what he can do with a few games under his belt in a row.
And people like his 150% no fear approach.Agree entirely.
I’ve been impressed with him in the tests he played for exactly this reason. Gives it all.
I have doubts about his size, but it doesn’t seem to have affected his results.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
We have a pretty significant lack of depth at halfback right now
Right now? There's been a lack of depth at 9 (and in a fair number of other positions) for the last 4-5 years.
No, we don't lack depth at nine at all, Roigard is an awesome player. he should be on the bench. We only 'lack depth' cos Foster puts ginger Scottish losers in the team
@Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
No, we don't lack depth at nine at all, Roigard is an awesome player. he should be on the bench. We only 'lack depth' cos Foster puts ginger Scottish losers in the team
Nugget goes in 6 weeks time, Roigard has played 15 minutes against a team who had 35 points up on us (which def. proves he's an awesome player) and then there's Christie.
Yep, there's definitely huge depth at Test level at halfback in NZ rugby. When Foster goes next month, we'll be brimming over with quality and spoilt for choice...
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@Chris said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
I haven't heard he is absolutely World class,More give him a go to see what he can do with a few games under his belt in a row.
And people like his 150% no fear approach.Agree entirely.
I’ve been impressed with him in the tests he played for exactly this reason. Gives it all.
I have doubts about his size, but it doesn’t seem to have affected his results.
@MajorRage said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Chris said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
I haven't heard he is absolutely World class,More give him a go to see what he can do with a few games under his belt in a row.
And people like his 150% no fear approach.Agree entirely.
I’ve been impressed with him in the tests he played for exactly this reason. Gives it all.
I have doubts about his size, but it doesn’t seem to have affected his results.
Yep I agree, I got on the Blackadder bandwagon first time I saw him play for Ta$man, loved his attitude, was n't suggesting he would be WC, but as soon as I see young ones with that attitude, I always want to see how far they can go. And quietly he has kept getting better, and looks quite capable of giving a good account of himself at highest level.
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@Victor-Meldrew using Nonu as your example.
The Foster-fluffing (not that I said it) comment I imagine is not related so much to this one post defending a poor decision by him, but your many other posts doing so. You've even been doing it tangentially by having repeated cracks at Ryan on the boks match.
While some of the Foster criticism is over the top, there's also a huge amount of perfectly valid criticism. If you're making a play for both broken record and white knight, it's a decent one.@reprobate said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew using Nonu as your example.
The Foster-fluffing (not that I said it) comment I imagine is not related so much to this one post defending a poor decision by him, but your many other posts doing so. You've even been doing it tangentially by having repeated cracks at Ryan on the boks match.
While some of the Foster criticism is over the top, there's also a huge amount of perfectly valid criticism. If you're making a play for both broken record and white knight, it's a decent one.Nice ad hom, but it ain't washing.
If you think calling out the AB forwards performance against the Boks at Twickenham (easily the worst I've seen in over a decade) and suggesting the forwards and the coaching needs a kick up the arse is tangentially fluffing Foster or supporting him, then you've simply moved the bizarre needle even further up the scale.
And for the record, I posted I wanted Foster gone after the Irish series.
