All Blacks 2023
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
How did the All Blacks go from so good and so widely respected in 2015 to being a bit of a laughing stock at the moment?
Mrs TR (English and only interest in rugby was me when we met) wasnt home when the game finished and then got home and just asked me what I thought of the match...then said this is getting embarrassing isnt it?
Think that about sums it up.
@taniwharugby We had three years to prepare for last night. We faced exactly what I expected: a passionate, brutal French side led by arguably the greatest half back to play the game in front of a patriotic, vocal French crowd.
The Second Half from the All Blacks was a shambles. Under pressure they folded.
If I had to sum it in one word. Embarrassing.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
(but Codie had been playing better until SA)
He didn’t play against SA Coles did,ST was on the bench.
Yeh but I meant recently. Sorry for sloppy writing.
Ok gotcha.
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@taniwharugby We had three years to prepare for last night. We faced exactly what I expected: a passionate, brutal French side led by arguably the greatest half back to play the game in front of a patriotic, vocal French crowd.
The Second Half from the All Blacks was a shambles. Under pressure they folded.
If I had to sum it in one word. Embarrassing.
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I think there may have been a game in the Foster era where we showed we could play different styles/tactics but I can't think of one recently, France showed how it can be done.
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@taniwharugby We had three years to prepare for last night. We faced exactly what I expected: a passionate, brutal French side led by arguably the greatest half back to play the game in front of a patriotic, vocal French crowd.
The Second Half from the All Blacks was a shambles. Under pressure they folded.
If I had to sum it in one word. Embarrassing.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
@taniwharugby We had three years to prepare for last night. We faced exactly what I expected: a passionate, brutal French side led by arguably the greatest half back to play the game in front of a patriotic, vocal French crowd.
The Second Half from the All Blacks was a shambles. Under pressure they folded.
If I had to sum it in one word. Embarrassing.
It’s Ok Fozzie says ,we are learning and he is quite happy we’re we are,he would not change a thing.
Fuck how did we ever get to this point.
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@sparky not sure it was even thier pressure that caused the capitulation, was a combination of dumb decisions and equally poor execution of basic skills that put the pressure on themselves
@taniwharugby I think the occasion and the crowd got to the ABs a bit.
But I see what you mean. France didn’t have to do much in that game. They looked very solid, but not necessarily world beaters. Terrible decision-making and baffling execution meant the ABs unraveled last night.
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How did the All Blacks go from being so good and so widely respected in 2015 to being a bit of a laughing stock at the moment?
Bad tactics by Foster.
A culture of complacency within the All Blacks.
Failure to adapt to changing tactics by other international sides.
Not monitoring developments in the international game closely enough.
A failure for individual players to go away and work on obvious weaknesses in their game.
Devaluing possession and the kicking game.
A generation of players that is much less gifted than those that emerged in the 2000s.
Low crowds for domestic NZ Rugby.
Fewer people playing club rugby in NZ.
A board who were content to wallow in past glories rather than plan for the future.Anything I’ve missed?
@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
How did the All Blacks go from so good and so widely respected in 2015 to being a bit of a laughing stock at the moment?
Bad tactics by Foster.
A culture of complacency within the All Blacks.
Failure to adapt to changing tactics by other international sides.
Not monitoring developments in the international game closely enough.
A failure for individual players to go away and work on obvious weaknesses in their game.
Devaluing possession and the kicking game.
A generation of players that is much less gifted than those that emerged in the 2000s.
Low crowds for domestic NZ Rugby.
Fewer people playing club rugby in NZ.
A board who were content to wallow in past glories rather than plan for the future.Anything I’ve missed?
I blame the catering at wellington stadium for this. Overpriced shit food and beer is not enticing.
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assuming it is true, not that it matters with 3-5 games left in charge, but he should really be asked to explain why he is replacing a wing with a loose forward...
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@Stag Could say the same for people going the other way.
@African-Monkey no, you couldn’t
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
On his way to France
Who is coming home?
Hopefully Fozzie
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
On his way to France
Who is coming home?
narawa
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