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Foster's Firsts.

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  • dogmeatD dogmeat

    I've never been a supporter of Fosters and reckon the AB's lost the plot after Lions 1 in 2017 but a lot of the firsts are a reflection on the available players and the comparative strengths of the opposition.

    Making it all about us is a continuation of the arrogance that got us into this mess. We used to be fitter and more skilful than our opponents but no longer are. That's not just down to Foster.

    I also don't think Razor is going to be the messiah next year. He'll have the same forwards coach and many of the same players who have now been owned in two successive matches. Hopefully we will have a plan B and won't simply revery to brainless kicking but it's a long way back to the top of world rugby and it's not all about the coach's (in)abilities. Serious structural and competitive concerns too.

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    @dogmeat said in Foster's Firsts.:

    I also don't think Razor is going to be the messiah next year.

    He doesn't need to be the messiah, he just needs to not be a naughty naughty boy coach.

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      #114

      First AB (Ethan De Groot) to be sent off at the RWC.

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        First AB (Ethan De Groot) to be sent off at the RWC.

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        @sparky 😂😂😂😂

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          #116

          Not quite in the spirit of the thread but ...

          https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcup/status/1702792990702411960?t=b2o5qvDsiA85i_YrboSz-w&s=19

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            Further to that ...

            https://twitter.com/nzrugbydatabase/status/1702817377921179994?t=IV9vu91koSUSbI8898WZkw&s=19

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            • boobooB booboo

              Further to that ...

              https://twitter.com/nzrugbydatabase/status/1702817377921179994?t=IV9vu91koSUSbI8898WZkw&s=19

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              @booboo said in Foster's Firsts.:

              Further to that ...

              https://twitter.com/nzrugbydatabase/status/1702817377921179994?t=IV9vu91koSUSbI8898WZkw&s=19

              Couldn’t have done it without Fozzie !

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              • sparkyS sparky

                First AB (Ethan De Groot) to be sent off at the RWC.

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                @sparky ordinarily I'd say you can't attribute that to the coaching, but there is certainly some issues with our discipline which does come back to coaching

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                • boobooB booboo

                  Not quite in the spirit of the thread but ...

                  https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcup/status/1702792990702411960?t=b2o5qvDsiA85i_YrboSz-w&s=19

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                  @booboo said in Foster's Firsts.:

                  Not quite in the spirit of the thread but ...

                  https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcup/status/1702792990702411960?t=b2o5qvDsiA85i_YrboSz-w&s=19

                  Could've, should've, been 4 years ago.

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @sparky ordinarily I'd say you can't attribute that to the coaching, but there is certainly some issues with our discipline which does come back to coaching

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                    @taniwharugby said in Foster's Firsts.:

                    @sparky ordinarily I'd say you can't attribute that to the coaching, but there is certainly some issues with our discipline which does come back to coaching

                    If it’s the coaching things may not get better next year. The Saders get pinged a hell of a lot.

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                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                      @taniwharugby said in Foster's Firsts.:

                      @sparky ordinarily I'd say you can't attribute that to the coaching, but there is certainly some issues with our discipline which does come back to coaching

                      If it’s the coaching things may not get better next year. The Saders get pinged a hell of a lot.

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                      @Crazy-Horse but they didn't get alot of cards do they, and usually a bit more calculated?

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @Crazy-Horse but they didn't get alot of cards do they, and usually a bit more calculated?

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                        @taniwharugby said in Foster's Firsts.:

                        @Crazy-Horse but they didn't get alot of cards do they, and usually a bit more calculated?

                        I haven't see any stats but it seems to me they got carded a fair bit too. Or maybe it seemed that way to me because I support them.

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          @taniwharugby said in Foster's Firsts.:

                          @Crazy-Horse but they didn't get alot of cards do they, and usually a bit more calculated?

                          I haven't see any stats but it seems to me they got carded a fair bit too. Or maybe it seemed that way to me because I support them.

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                          @Crazy-Horse I know there is always lenty of chat in match threads about how.much they get away with or deserve cards....

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @Crazy-Horse I know there is always lenty of chat in match threads about how.much they get away with or deserve cards....

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                            @taniwharugby said in Foster's Firsts.:

                            @Crazy-Horse I know there is always lenty of chat in match threads about how.much they get away with or deserve cards....

                            Yeah but I think on here the Saders would be called evil
                            cheats for helping old ladies across the road.

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                              @taniwharugby said in Foster's Firsts.:

                              @Crazy-Horse but they didn't get alot of cards do they, and usually a bit more calculated?

                              I haven't see any stats but it seems to me they got carded a fair bit too. Or maybe it seemed that way to me because I support them.

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                              @Crazy-Horse

                              Penalties not too bad, YCs they ranked 8th this year. 1st (meaning fewest YCs) was the Chiefs

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                                Foz could be first AB coach to have win ratio below 70% ? Might have to fact check that one

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                                  Foz could be first AB coach to have win ratio below 70% ? Might have to fact check that one

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                                  #128

                                  @Nevorian said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                  Foz could be first AB coach to have win ratio below 70% ? Might have to fact check that one

                                  Nah nowhere near (from 2022)
                                  b1d45e88-db6d-41ed-8291-48de66f49fed-image.png

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                                    lol Wayne Smith was shit!

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                                      @Nevorian said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                      Foz could be first AB coach to have win ratio below 70% ? Might have to fact check that one

                                      Nah nowhere near (from 2022)
                                      b1d45e88-db6d-41ed-8291-48de66f49fed-image.png

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                                      @Machpants well he is teetering on the edge there if you take out those that were obviously sacked early in their tenures and if he manages to lose another one or two…..

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                                        I think this is accurate: Foster 2020-2023

                                        Wins: 28 (68.3%)
                                        Losses: 11 (26.8%)
                                        Draws: 2 (4.9%)

                                        So if we bomb out in the QF

                                        Wins: 30 (68.2%)
                                        Losses: 12 (27.3%)
                                        Draws: 2 (4.5%)

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                                          Lucky Australia didn't have a purple patch during that time otherwise.......

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