All Blacks 2023
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2023:
Blackadder has officially overtaken Ngatai as the player who gets better by not playing.
Haha, desperate times ...
And I can already hear the knives being sharpened, in case Blackadder indeed gets to play. In proper TSF way, every mistake he makes will be pointed out ad nauseam and how player X, Y or Z should have been selected instead, appropriately ignoring the good things he does on the field. GOM are going to GOM!
If he gets selected, I hope he goes really well.
However, I do find the trust he enjoys from some on here, despite no warrantable form to merit, ironic considering that many of the same posters aim that arrow at Fozzy and his selection team.
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If he gets selected, I hope he goes really well.
However, I do find the trust he enjoys from some on here, despite no warrantable form to merit, ironic considering that many of the same posters aim that arrow at Fozzy and his selection team.
@gt12 I think there's merit in having hope Blackadder will do well, but yeah, I find it strange to read "we don't need Cane" etc. Although I think he's the right player to receive the call-up, I'm not among the people who've been talking him up. I'm firmly on the "giving him a chance" side, but not with unrealistic expectations.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2023:
Blackadder has officially overtaken Ngatai as the player who gets better by not playing.
And we've created a new award the Frizell 20 good minutes in 5 years and now instant pick.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2023:
Blackadder has officially overtaken Ngatai as the player who gets better by not playing.
And we've created a new award the Frizell 20 good minutes in 5 years and now instant pick.
Funny how fast the “no dickheads” policy gets turfed when alternatives are thin and there’s a RWC on the line…
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@sparky we don't need Cane. Start Blackadder at 7, Savea at 8 and Frizell at 6. The perfect combo IMO.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@sparky you cannot ever have a perfect combo with Savea at 8
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I've a question about Luke Jacobson, does he only look good against lower sides at AB level? I recall him looking good versus minnows but against SA, France, Ireland etc? Maybe it also depends on if they play him at 6 or 8.
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The player admitted that he had committed an act of foul play, but maintained that the red card threshold had not been met and therefore challenged the Foul Play Review Official’s decision that the tackle was “always illegal”.
Having considered all the available evidence, including the application of World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, the submissions by the player and his representative, and all available camera angles and technology, the independent Committee determined that:
i) an act of foul play had occurred;
ii) the player had the opportunity to put himself in a position to complete a legal tackle;
iii) the player was in a dynamic tackling position and, as admitted by the player, he was not sufficiently bent at the waist;
iv) that head contact had occurred and the degree of danger was high;
v) the FPRO’s decision that the tackle was “always illegal” was correct, because of the lack of an attempt to wrap, and therefore mitigation could not be applied in this incident to bring the sanction down from a red card.
On that basis and in considering the sanction, the independent Committee applied World Rugby’s mandatory minimum mid-range entry point for foul play resulting in head contact (six matches). Taking all considerations into account, including acceptance of an element of foul play and an excellent disciplinary record, the independent Committee determined a maximum mitigation of 50 per cent, resulting in a final sanction of three matches to be applied as follows:
New Zealand v Italy, 29 September
New Zealand v Uruguay 5 October
The player will be free to play in the Rugby World Cup 2023 quarter-final (if New Zealand qualify) subject to successful completion of the Coaching Intervention Programme*
*The player intends to apply to take part in the World Rugby Coaching Intervention Programme to substitute the final match of the sanction for a coaching intervention aimed at modifying specific techniques and technical issues that contributed to the foul play subject to successful completion. Further information can be found here.
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The player admitted that he had committed an act of foul play, but maintained that the red card threshold had not been met and therefore challenged the Foul Play Review Official’s decision that the tackle was “always illegal”.
Having considered all the available evidence, including the application of World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, the submissions by the player and his representative, and all available camera angles and technology, the independent Committee determined that:
i) an act of foul play had occurred;
ii) the player had the opportunity to put himself in a position to complete a legal tackle;
iii) the player was in a dynamic tackling position and, as admitted by the player, he was not sufficiently bent at the waist;
iv) that head contact had occurred and the degree of danger was high;
v) the FPRO’s decision that the tackle was “always illegal” was correct, because of the lack of an attempt to wrap, and therefore mitigation could not be applied in this incident to bring the sanction down from a red card.
On that basis and in considering the sanction, the independent Committee applied World Rugby’s mandatory minimum mid-range entry point for foul play resulting in head contact (six matches). Taking all considerations into account, including acceptance of an element of foul play and an excellent disciplinary record, the independent Committee determined a maximum mitigation of 50 per cent, resulting in a final sanction of three matches to be applied as follows:
New Zealand v Italy, 29 September
New Zealand v Uruguay 5 October
The player will be free to play in the Rugby World Cup 2023 quarter-final (if New Zealand qualify) subject to successful completion of the Coaching Intervention Programme*
*The player intends to apply to take part in the World Rugby Coaching Intervention Programme to substitute the final match of the sanction for a coaching intervention aimed at modifying specific techniques and technical issues that contributed to the foul play subject to successful completion. Further information can be found here.
@Stargazer No arguments from me. Fair enough.
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@Stargazer At least he's available for the QF.
@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer At least he's available for the QF.
Is that a good thing? So far in about 60mins of playing time he's contributed something like 5 knock-ons, 27 missed tackles, 43 scrum penalties and a red card.
Oh and a try
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:
Predictable, and reasonable decision for a stupid, stupid tackle.
yes.
Now how about that French lock, eh!
@nzzp they are consistently inconsistent
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer At least he's available for the QF.
Is that a good thing? So far in about 60mins of playing time he's contributed something like 5 knock-ons, 27 missed tackles, 43 scrum penalties and a red card.
Oh and a try
@voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer At least he's available for the QF.
Is that a good thing? So far in about 60mins of playing time he's contributed something like 5 knock-ons, 27 missed tackles, 43 scrum penalties and a red card.
Oh and a try
The way people are turning on de Groot to me is bizarre. The All Blacks are noticeably better when he and Lomax are on the field. Didn't have his best game vs France obviously, but it got way overblown. Wasn't where we lost the game.
Was his tackle vs Namibia on the poor side? Of course it was. But it also isn't the thuggery shoulder charge some people are trying to make it out to be. He is far better than Ofa, and we should 100% rush him straight back in come the quarters.
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@voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer At least he's available for the QF.
Is that a good thing? So far in about 60mins of playing time he's contributed something like 5 knock-ons, 27 missed tackles, 43 scrum penalties and a red card.
Oh and a try
The way people are turning on de Groot to me is bizarre. The All Blacks are noticeably better when he and Lomax are on the field. Didn't have his best game vs France obviously, but it got way overblown. Wasn't where we lost the game.
Was his tackle vs Namibia on the poor side? Of course it was. But it also isn't the thuggery shoulder charge some people are trying to make it out to be. He is far better than Ofa, and we should 100% rush him straight back in come the quarters.
@frugby yeah, its not like he dove shoulder first at a player laying prone on the ground.....
