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RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

    Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

    It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

    i fuckin would be! It's fucking Italy!

    I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

    Fozzie would do well to book himself on a continuous series of Contiki tours around Europe. After about five years the clamour might have died down enough that he could come home heavily disguised.

    Would have to be the most disgraceful defeat - by a decent margin.

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    @Chris-B said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

    Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

    It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

    i fuckin would be! It's fucking Italy!

    I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

    Fozzie would do well to book himself on a continuous series of Contiki tours around Europe. After about five years the clamour might have died down enough that he could come home heavily disguised.

    Would have to be the most disgraceful defeat - by a decent margin.

    Why travel around Europe when he could stay rent free in a giant mansion in Como that I’m sure the Italian government will gift him….

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    • sparkyS sparky

      @Chris-B said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

      @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

      @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

      @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

      If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

      Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

      It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

      i fuckin would be! It's fucking Italy!

      I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

      Fozzie would do well to book himself on a continuous series of Contiki tours around Europe. After about five years the clamour might have died down enough that he could come home heavily disguised.

      Would have to be the most disgraceful defeat - by a decent margin.

      I’m not sure which disguise would work for Foster? Mr Creosote?

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      @sparky said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

      @Chris-B said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

      @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

      @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

      @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

      If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

      Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

      It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

      i fuckin would be! It's fucking Italy!

      I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

      Fozzie would do well to book himself on a continuous series of Contiki tours around Europe. After about five years the clamour might have died down enough that he could come home heavily disguised.

      Would have to be the most disgraceful defeat - by a decent margin.

      I’m not sure which disguise would work for Foster? Mr Creosote?

      The object of a disguise is to change your appearance.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        Not to put panic in the ranks, but we need to beat these Italians convincingly - no bonus points given and here's why.

        France is going to thump Namibia and move to 13 points.

        If we have a close win over Italy - where they get a losing bonus point - they move to 11 and we move to 9.

        Even when we thump Uruguay we only get to 14 points.

        An open running game between France and Italy, where both teams score four tries and France conspire to lose and boom - both those teams go to 15 points. And as long as Italy gets to 15 points, France only needs 14, so they only need to score four tries, not even stay close.

        Particularly, if they have some preference to come second, we may be in trouble.

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        @Chris-B said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        Not to put panic in the ranks, but we need to beat these Italians convincingly - no bonus points given and here's why.

        Right now, half our team are probably thinking a win is good enough and will realize after the game because - " I don't pay to much attention to the table and stuff like that, I'm just here to play footy!"

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          #32

          This is about prepping for Ireland.

          Assuming everyone except De Groot available then:

          Ofa/Taylor/Lomax/BBBR/Big Sam/Cane/Scooter/Savea/Nuggie/Richie/Jordie/Rieko/Clarke/Jordan/Beaudie

          Bench:

          Tamaiti/Sami/Nepo/Frizell/Ethan (B)/Roigard/DMac/ALB

          Want to give Caleb a crack at 11. Last bench spot tricky, because our midfield isn't that interchangeable. Quite like the idea of Telea as a super sub.

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            Once Frizell has some miles under belt he can start against Uruguay. Which will mean a toss up at LH lock.

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              This is about prepping for Ireland.

              Assuming everyone except De Groot available then:

              Ofa/Taylor/Lomax/BBBR/Big Sam/Cane/Scooter/Savea/Nuggie/Richie/Jordie/Rieko/Clarke/Jordan/Beaudie

              Bench:

              Tamaiti/Sami/Nepo/Frizell/Ethan (B)/Roigard/DMac/ALB

              Want to give Caleb a crack at 11. Last bench spot tricky, because our midfield isn't that interchangeable. Quite like the idea of Telea as a super sub.

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              @pakman How is Clarke deserving at all over Telea? He isn't even deserving over Leicester.

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                This is about prepping for Ireland.

                Assuming everyone except De Groot available then:

                Ofa/Taylor/Lomax/BBBR/Big Sam/Cane/Scooter/Savea/Nuggie/Richie/Jordie/Rieko/Clarke/Jordan/Beaudie

                Bench:

                Tamaiti/Sami/Nepo/Frizell/Ethan (B)/Roigard/DMac/ALB

                Want to give Caleb a crack at 11. Last bench spot tricky, because our midfield isn't that interchangeable. Quite like the idea of Telea as a super sub.

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                @pakman Your team but Telea at 11 and Big Leicester on the bench.

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                  We need a revolution. The same isn't going to work. Caleb is so off the pace it isn't funny. Cane and BB need to have gone 2 years ago.
                  Ofa/Sami/Lomax/BBBR/Scooter/Ethan/Frizell/Savea/Nuggie/Richie/Jordie/Rieko/Telea/LF/Jordan

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @pakman How is Clarke deserving at all over Telea? He isn't even deserving over Leicester.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                    @pakman How is Clarke deserving at all over Telea? He isn't even deserving over Leicester.

                    Leicester will be vulnerable against the Irish. Do or die for Clarke. If don't fire Telea in for Uruguay.

                    Third back reserve needs to cover 12 or 13, and preferably both.

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                      @KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                      @pakman How is Clarke deserving at all over Telea? He isn't even deserving over Leicester.

                      Leicester will be vulnerable against the Irish. Do or die for Clarke. If don't fire Telea in for Uruguay.

                      Third back reserve needs to cover 12 or 13, and preferably both.

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                      @pakman said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                      Leicester will be vulnerable against the Irish.

                      And not Clarke ?

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                        @pakman said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        Leicester will be vulnerable against the Irish.

                        And not Clarke ?

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                        @cgrant said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        @pakman said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        Leicester will be vulnerable against the Irish.

                        And not Clarke ?

                        Maybe, but when 100% Clarke is excellent under the high ball. Also faster.

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                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6

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                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6

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                            @JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6

                            Hoping he can be what we need him to be

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                              @JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6

                              Hoping he can be what we need him to be

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                              @canefan said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              @JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6

                              Hoping he can be what we need him to be

                              If him and Ethan both start at the same time it won’t be fair on the other teams

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6

                                Hoping he can be what we need him to be

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                                @canefan yep, sadly been many weeks out of the game, he is unlikely to be close to his early RC form, but I guess for this week it is more about getting him gametime, along with a number of players.

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6

                                  Hoping he can be what we need him to be

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                                  @canefan said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                  @JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6

                                  Hoping he can be what we need him to be

                                  He's shown years minutes of great consistency at 6 on the international stage, I can't see where the worry is...

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                                    #45

                                    You fullas will go all quiet when Jordan -> 15, EB -> 7, ST -> 2 and Roigard starts.
                                    Some coaches play the ultimate long game.

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                                      Biggest game in the last 4 years, genuinely nervous. Chris B has made me more so.

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                                      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                        You fullas will go all quiet when Jordan -> 15, EB -> 7, ST -> 2 and Roigard starts.
                                        Some coaches play the ultimate long game.

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                                        @BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                        You fullas will go all quiet when Jordan -> 15, EB -> 7, ST -> 2 and Roigard starts.
                                        Some coaches play the ultimate long game.

                                        Is that you, George?

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                                          Clarke and Talea on wings with Beauden 15 Training days ,but may well change

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