RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy
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Not to put panic in the ranks, but we need to beat these Italians convincingly - no bonus points given and here's why.
France is going to thump Namibia and move to 13 points.
If we have a close win over Italy - where they get a losing bonus point - they move to 11 and we move to 9.
Even when we thump Uruguay we only get to 14 points.
An open running game between France and Italy, where both teams score four tries and France conspire to lose and boom - both those teams go to 15 points. And as long as Italy gets to 15 points, France only needs 14, so they only need to score four tries, not even stay close.
Particularly, if they have some preference to come second, we may be in trouble.
@Chris-B said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Not to put panic in the ranks, but we need to beat these Italians convincingly - no bonus points given and here's why.
Right now, half our team are probably thinking a win is good enough and will realize after the game because - " I don't pay to much attention to the table and stuff like that, I'm just here to play footy!"
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This is about prepping for Ireland.
Assuming everyone except De Groot available then:
Ofa/Taylor/Lomax/BBBR/Big Sam/Cane/Scooter/Savea/Nuggie/Richie/Jordie/Rieko/Clarke/Jordan/Beaudie
Bench:
Tamaiti/Sami/Nepo/Frizell/Ethan (B)/Roigard/DMac/ALB
Want to give Caleb a crack at 11. Last bench spot tricky, because our midfield isn't that interchangeable. Quite like the idea of Telea as a super sub.
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This is about prepping for Ireland.
Assuming everyone except De Groot available then:
Ofa/Taylor/Lomax/BBBR/Big Sam/Cane/Scooter/Savea/Nuggie/Richie/Jordie/Rieko/Clarke/Jordan/Beaudie
Bench:
Tamaiti/Sami/Nepo/Frizell/Ethan (B)/Roigard/DMac/ALB
Want to give Caleb a crack at 11. Last bench spot tricky, because our midfield isn't that interchangeable. Quite like the idea of Telea as a super sub.
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This is about prepping for Ireland.
Assuming everyone except De Groot available then:
Ofa/Taylor/Lomax/BBBR/Big Sam/Cane/Scooter/Savea/Nuggie/Richie/Jordie/Rieko/Clarke/Jordan/Beaudie
Bench:
Tamaiti/Sami/Nepo/Frizell/Ethan (B)/Roigard/DMac/ALB
Want to give Caleb a crack at 11. Last bench spot tricky, because our midfield isn't that interchangeable. Quite like the idea of Telea as a super sub.
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We need a revolution. The same isn't going to work. Caleb is so off the pace it isn't funny. Cane and BB need to have gone 2 years ago.
Ofa/Sami/Lomax/BBBR/Scooter/Ethan/Frizell/Savea/Nuggie/Richie/Jordie/Rieko/Telea/LF/Jordan -
@pakman How is Clarke deserving at all over Telea? He isn't even deserving over Leicester.
@KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@pakman How is Clarke deserving at all over Telea? He isn't even deserving over Leicester.
Leicester will be vulnerable against the Irish. Do or die for Clarke. If don't fire Telea in for Uruguay.
Third back reserve needs to cover 12 or 13, and preferably both.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@pakman How is Clarke deserving at all over Telea? He isn't even deserving over Leicester.
Leicester will be vulnerable against the Irish. Do or die for Clarke. If don't fire Telea in for Uruguay.
Third back reserve needs to cover 12 or 13, and preferably both.
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@pakman said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Leicester will be vulnerable against the Irish.
And not Clarke ?
@cgrant said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@pakman said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Leicester will be vulnerable against the Irish.
And not Clarke ?
Maybe, but when 100% Clarke is excellent under the high ball. Also faster.
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https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6
@JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6
Hoping he can be what we need him to be
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@JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6
Hoping he can be what we need him to be
@canefan said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6
Hoping he can be what we need him to be
If him and Ethan both start at the same time it won’t be fair on the other teams
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@JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6
Hoping he can be what we need him to be
@canefan yep, sadly been many weeks out of the game, he is unlikely to be close to his early RC form, but I guess for this week it is more about getting him gametime, along with a number of players.
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@JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6
Hoping he can be what we need him to be
@canefan said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6
Hoping he can be what we need him to be
He's shown
yearsminutes of great consistency at 6 on the international stage, I can't see where the worry is... -
You fullas will go all quiet when Jordan -> 15, EB -> 7, ST -> 2 and Roigard starts.
Some coaches play the ultimate long game. -
Biggest game in the last 4 years, genuinely nervous. Chris B has made me more so.
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You fullas will go all quiet when Jordan -> 15, EB -> 7, ST -> 2 and Roigard starts.
Some coaches play the ultimate long game.@BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
You fullas will go all quiet when Jordan -> 15, EB -> 7, ST -> 2 and Roigard starts.
Some coaches play the ultimate long game.Is that you, George?
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
You fullas will go all quiet when Jordan -> 15, EB -> 7, ST -> 2 and Roigard starts.
Some coaches play the ultimate long game.Is that you, George?
@Machpants no
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
You fullas will go all quiet when Jordan -> 15, EB -> 7, ST -> 2 and Roigard starts.
Some coaches play the ultimate long game.Is that you, George?
@Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
You fullas will go all quiet when Jordan -> 15, EB -> 7, ST -> 2 and Roigard starts.
Some coaches play the ultimate long game.Is that you, George?
this looks even more sus....forgot who they were logged in as and quick changed....
