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RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @voodoo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @voodoo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    playing a couple of left wingers?

    Telea can play 11 but was usually at 14 during SR

    shows how much SR I watched...

    edit, think he also played at 14 v Scotland (with CC at 11)

    He also played 14 vs England the next week

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @voodoo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @voodoo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    playing a couple of left wingers?

    Telea can play 11 but was usually at 14 during SR

    shows how much SR I watched...

    edit, think he also played at 14 v Scotland (with CC at 11)

    He also played 14 vs England the next week

    I'll keep quiet then

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      Barrett,Talea, Reiko, Barrett, Clarke, Ritchie, Smith,Ardie, Cane (Papalili), Frizzell, Brodie, Scott, Nepo, Taylor, Ofa
      Bench Christie, ALB, ,Sami T, Newell, Papalili (Blackadder), Williams ?(didn't scrum on Friday ) Whitelock, and maybe 1 back McKenzie

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        May b Lomax he just bout there over Newell on Bench

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        • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

          I was a wee bit concerned after the French game but I think it'll be a pretty easy win. But I'd be shitting bricks if it was any of the other 6N teams.

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          @Rancid-Schnitzel I’m always nervous pre the big games just the level fluctuates or ebbs depending on the opposition. Italy would have previously been lower range but with Wallabies poor results, and we only just beat them in the lead up games this year, and our poor discipline of late it’s gone up a notch or two. Am hoping a strong win of course , they can do it, but ….please Lord no red cards!

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @taniwharugby say that again slowly...he's slower...and not executing well....so what tools does he have?

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            taniwharugby
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            @Kiwiwomble maybe you should read what I said again, slowly?

            Fullback tool box:
            Pace ✅
            Long kicking game ✅
            Short kicking game ✅
            Passing game ✅
            Eye for a gap ✅

            Sure he isn't quite as quick as he was, but still pretty quick, he has those other skills, but something just isn't clicking for him, nor has it for a while, not least consistently anyway.

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              This is the same All Blacks team that’s lost twice to Argentina, coming up against the most talented Italian squad ever assembled.

              If we are to ever lost to Italy, this would be the time. Crowley will have the Italians dialled right in for this.

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @Kiwiwomble maybe you should read what I said again, slowly?

                Fullback tool box:
                Pace ✅
                Long kicking game ✅
                Short kicking game ✅
                Passing game ✅
                Eye for a gap ✅

                Sure he isn't quite as quick as he was, but still pretty quick, he has those other skills, but something just isn't clicking for him, nor has it for a while, not least consistently anyway.

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                Kiwiwomble
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                @taniwharugby said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                @Kiwiwomble maybe you should read what I said again, slowly?

                Fullback tool box:
                Pace ✅
                Long kicking game ✅
                Short kicking game ✅
                Passing game ✅
                Eye for a gap ✅

                Sure he isn't quite as quick as he was, but still pretty quick, he has those other skills, but something just isn't clicking for him, nor has it for a while, not least consistently anyway.

                it was a tongue in cheek comment mate....but thats not what you said, you said he's not executing well in a number of aspects, if you think he has a good short and long kicking game, a good pass and can still hit a gap...what are the aspects you think hes not executing well?

                I would also say he's lost more than a yard of pace....several comment from the game last week about how slow he seems

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @taniwharugby said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                  @Kiwiwomble maybe you should read what I said again, slowly?

                  Fullback tool box:
                  Pace ✅
                  Long kicking game ✅
                  Short kicking game ✅
                  Passing game ✅
                  Eye for a gap ✅

                  Sure he isn't quite as quick as he was, but still pretty quick, he has those other skills, but something just isn't clicking for him, nor has it for a while, not least consistently anyway.

                  it was a tongue in cheek comment mate....but thats not what you said, you said he's not executing well in a number of aspects, if you think he has a good short and long kicking game, a good pass and can still hit a gap...what are the aspects you think hes not executing well?

                  I would also say he's lost more than a yard of pace....several comment from the game last week about how slow he seems

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                  taniwharugby
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                  @Kiwiwomble I said he still has the tools, just his execution is off...not sure whats different about that or you are arguing about.

                  He is off his game, he may never get back on it, but currently, he stlil has the tools to do the job

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @Kiwiwomble I said he still has the tools, just his execution is off...not sure whats different about that or you are arguing about.

                    He is off his game, he may never get back on it, but currently, he stlil has the tools to do the job

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                    Kiwiwomble
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                    @taniwharugby the difference for me is in my mind the only ones that have the tools are the ones that are using them....if your not doing shit on game day....then you cant say you can do it

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                      Barrett,Talea, Reiko, Barrett, Clarke, Ritchie, Smith,Ardie, Cane (Papalili), Frizzell, Brodie, Scott, Nepo, Taylor, Ofa
                      Bench Christie, ALB, ,Sami T, Newell, Papalili (Blackadder), Williams ?(didn't scrum on Friday ) Whitelock, and maybe 1 back McKenzie

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                      @george33 said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                      Barrett,Talea, Reiko, Barrett, Clarke, Ritchie, Smith,Ardie, Cane (Papalili), Frizzell, Brodie, Scott, Nepo, Taylor, Ofa
                      Bench Christie, ALB, ,Sami T, Newell, Papalili (Blackadder), Williams ?(didn't scrum on Friday ) Whitelock, and maybe 1 back McKenzie

                      This tells us Taylor and Frizell close to hundy, which is good. On flip side Cane and Lomax not, which isn’t really a surprise. Tamaiti will be on bench because Newell and Lomax don’t play LH.

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                        Well, you know what, plenty of folk have been complaining about this RWC - minnows not developing, long gaps between games etc. All fair points.

                        BUT, we just saw a great game that will leave Fiji likely to make a QF, and All Blacks fans are rightfully very nervous about putting away a punchy Italian side. As M4L said somewhere, all of the QF's will be proper contests.

                        Surely this is what it's all about???

                        I can't wait for this game. I expect us to win and win well - but could the Italians secure a BP and leave us vulnerable to some Rainbow Warrior-level skullduggery? Maybe!

                        Will 5 Seconds of Summer Shannon return at full fitness and wreak havoc in the way only he can? Who knows!

                        Will Foster authorise the team to open the snuff box and use a little of the powder that lies within, or will we have to wait another week to see that against the unsuspecting Irish?

                        So much to look forward to!

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                        • G george33

                          Barrett,Talea, Reiko, Barrett, Clarke, Ritchie, Smith,Ardie, Cane (Papalili), Frizzell, Brodie, Scott, Nepo, Taylor, Ofa
                          Bench Christie, ALB, ,Sami T, Newell, Papalili (Blackadder), Williams ?(didn't scrum on Friday ) Whitelock, and maybe 1 back McKenzie

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                          @george33 Eight Blues is high by recent standards.

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                            @george33 Eight Blues is high by recent standards.

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                            @pakman said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                            @george33 Eight Blues is high by recent standards.

                            better than 8 Canes innit

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                              I haven’t been on this site for a while until the last week or so, I’m beginning to wonder if I’ve found the wrong Silver Fern. NZ will batter Italy, it will not be close.

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                                Darren
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                                I hope so, but after you just lost your last game, it's hard to be too optimistic. A few cards that we always insist on getting and we will be in trouble
                                We are so hot and cold right now. Tear apart the Boks, then get torn apart by them next game.

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6

                                  Hoping he can be what we need him to be

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                                  @canefan said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                  @JayCee said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-shannon-frizell-raring-to-go-after-boring-sideline-spell/ looking forward to seeing this guy back in the number 6

                                  Hoping he can be what we need him to be

                                  I just hope the forwards re-discover their mojo and play like they did in the RC. Danger for me is they don't take this game as seriously as they would a crunch SA game as @Frank hinted at.

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                    @voodoo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                    playing a couple of left wingers?

                                    Telea can play 11 but was usually at 14 during SR

                                    ....this is fozzie....are we absolutely sure he's not saying clarke on the right and telea on the left? 😉

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                    @Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                    @voodoo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                    playing a couple of left wingers?

                                    Telea can play 11 but was usually at 14 during SR

                                    ....this is fozzie....are we absolutely sure he's not saying clarke on the right and telea on the left? 😉

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                                    • O Old Samurai Jack

                                      We need a revolution. The same isn't going to work. Caleb is so off the pace it isn't funny. Cane and BB need to have gone 2 years ago.
                                      Ofa/Sami/Lomax/BBBR/Scooter/Ethan/Frizell/Savea/Nuggie/Richie/Jordie/Rieko/Telea/LF/Jordan

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                                      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                      We need a revolution. The same isn't going to work..

                                      Is that you, Eddie?

                                      Feel for you after that Wales game, mate.

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                          We need a revolution. The same isn't going to work..

                                          Is that you, Eddie?

                                          Feel for you after that Wales game, mate.

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                          We need a revolution. The same isn't going to work..

                                          Is that you, Eddie?

                                          Feel for you after that Wales game, mate.

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