Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

Pasty Backline

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
71 Posts 32 Posters 5.8k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    <p>Cruden (but even he is Maori eligible I think)</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Getting pretty hard to meet a full euro only definition these days.</p>

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • sharkS Offline
      sharkS Offline
      shark
      wrote on last edited by
      #4

      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Wurzel" data-cid="602506" data-time="1470131348">
      <div>
      <p>The McKenzies are Maori as</p>
      </div>
      </blockquote>
      <p> </p>
      <p>I wondered about them. M McKenzie wouldn't be missed from a match day 10, but D McKenzie was a real game-changer if eligible.</p>

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • sharkS Offline
        sharkS Offline
        shark
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="602507" data-time="1470131451">
        <div>
        <p>Cruden (but even he is Maori eligible I think)</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Getting pretty hard to meet a full euro only definition these days.</p>
        </div>
        </blockquote>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Cruden has a Maori middle name.</p>

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • No QuarterN Offline
          No QuarterN Offline
          No Quarter
          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="602507" data-time="1470131451"><p>Cruden (but even he is Maori eligible I think)<br><br>
          Getting pretty hard to meet a full euro only definition these days.</p></blockquote>
          Yeah. If you do a full euro, a full PI or Maori, and a mixed team, the full teams would have very few people to select from. Well the full Maori team would have nobody.

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • dogmeatD Offline
            dogmeatD Offline
            dogmeat
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            <p>Why would you bother? Unless I'm embarrassed because they're clearly a poach I genuinely don't care and don't notice a players ethnicity.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>I probably would if a Singh or a Lee made the AB's</p>

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • BovidaeB Offline
              BovidaeB Offline
              Bovidae
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Wurzel" data-cid="602506" data-time="1470131348">
              <div>
              <p>The McKenzies are Maori as</p>
              </div>
              </blockquote>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Weber was in the Maori squad last year too.</p>

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • MN5M Offline
                MN5M Offline
                MN5
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                <p>When was the last time NZ Rugby actually produced a hard running, tackle busting white guy in the backline ?</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>No shit, last one I can think of is Scott "Stormy" McLeod. Other countries produce these guys in abundance......</p>

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • mimicM Offline
                  mimicM Offline
                  mimic
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  <p>Scott Hamilton?</p>

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • MN5M Offline
                    MN5M Offline
                    MN5
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mimic" data-cid="602516" data-time="1470132683">
                    <div>
                    <p>Scott Hamilton?</p>
                    </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Maybe just but my point still stands, as I said other countries who don't have the Maori and PI population make do with white guys doing this some of whom are excellent at it but NZ Rugby virtually always has a "browner" guy to do it.</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Case in point sharks backline being seriously short on physical presence overall.</p>

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • mimicM Offline
                      mimicM Offline
                      mimic
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      <p>its funny, i used to always write my "samoan" team whenever i finished my exams early..</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>15. Nanai/Toeava</p>
                      <p>14. Leiua</p>
                      <p>13. Nonu</p>
                      <p>12. SBW</p>
                      <p>11. J. Savea</p>
                      <p>10. Sopoaga</p>
                      <p>9. Pulu</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Funnily enough, Leiua is the only player I really rate in the Samoan team, and hes always injured.</p>

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • antipodeanA Offline
                        antipodeanA Offline
                        antipodean
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        <p>Is it possible to select such a team anymore? I've gotten to the point when someone says player x is eligible to play for the Maori I think the same things when meeting a blond haired blue eyed Aboriginal:</p>
                        <p>

                        </p>

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • CanerbryC Offline
                          CanerbryC Offline
                          Canerbry
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          <p>Crotty's a bit swarthy.</p>

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • gollumG Offline
                            gollumG Offline
                            gollum
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #15

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mimic" data-cid="602516" data-time="1470132683">
                            <div>
                            <p>Scott Hamilton?</p>
                            </div>
                            </blockquote>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Craig Innes (going back a bit) Keith Lowen.. Regan King (I think he was probably 1/16th or something...). It is odd that we don't produce more Jamie Roberts / George Norths tho'</p>

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • CanerbryC Offline
                              CanerbryC Offline
                              Canerbry
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              <p>What about a "Whitest Maoris" backline?</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Paul Tito hanging around on the wing, Cullen probably at centre by the time they found out his whakapapa. Tony Brown.</p>

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
                                Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
                                Rancid Schnitzel
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #17

                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="602518" data-time="1470132890">
                                <div>
                                <p>Maybe just but my point still stands, as I said other countries who don't have the Maori and PI population make do with white guys doing this some of whom are excellent at it but NZ Rugby virtually always has a "browner" guy to do it.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Case in point sharks backline being seriously short on physical presence overall.</p>
                                </div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p>Mark Robinson (the centre not the scrumhalf) when he wasn't injured? He was a bit of a unit.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Other than that, I got nothing.</p>

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • canefanC Offline
                                  canefanC Offline
                                  canefan
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="602514" data-time="1470132362">
                                  <div>
                                  <p>When was the last time NZ Rugby actually produced a hard running, tackle busting white guy in the backline ?</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>No shit, last one I can think of is Scott "Stormy" McLeod. Other countries produce these guys in abundance......</p>
                                  </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p>Because they've got no black guys to compete for places! ;)</p>

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • F Offline
                                    F Offline
                                    Frye
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #19

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="602528" data-time="1470135013"><p>
                                    Craig Innes (going back a bit) Keith Lowen.. Regan King (I think he was probably 1/16th or something...). It is odd that we don't produce more Jamie Roberts / George Norths tho'</p></blockquote>
                                    Lowen is Rarotongan. <br>
                                    King is Maori (I believe).<br><br>
                                    Craig Innes is a good example. <br><br>
                                    But in general I don't think we have a lot of big white hard running backs because they are earmarked as flankers early on. Whereas in countries like South Africa and England they are considered too small to play in the forwards so get shunted into the midfield.<br><br>
                                    A guy like Andre Snyman would have been a 7 in NZ.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • Billy TellB Offline
                                      Billy TellB Offline
                                      Billy Tell
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #20

                                      <p>Back in the day John Gallagher. Ok he was English. But those old clips with short shorts (stubbies basically) and that white skin that required sunglasses it was so bright and reflective.</p>

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • ACT CrusaderA Offline
                                        ACT CrusaderA Offline
                                        ACT Crusader
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #21

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="602514" data-time="1470132362"><p>When was the last time NZ Rugby actually produced a hard running, tackle busting white guy in the backline ?<br></p></blockquote>
                                        <br>
                                        Dane Coles.....

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • BonesB Online
                                          BonesB Online
                                          Bones
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #22

                                          Thought Horrel is Maori? Thompson?

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search