RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy
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@bayimports said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@antipodean said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@antipodean said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@Bovidae said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Stevenson needs to re-sign with NZR first. Robertson should be having a word in his ear.
Coaches should be having a word in his ear about defending. That would do wonders for his ability to wear the black jersey again.
Is it an individual problem or a systematic problem? Does he have defending issues with the Chiefs or just the ABs? Genuine question because just about every outside back has defending problems in the AB system.
Aside from McLeod's bafflingly shit defensive systems for the All Blacks, Stevenson was noticeably crap at defending in SR. To the point it looked like he didn't want to.
The implication (intended or not) sounds like the Chiefs couldn't win a game due to his defence..which is not true. I don't think anyone goes out thinking they won't defend unless they have a relationship with a bookie.
SR in 2023 isn't in the same ballpark as Test rugby. It's a noticeable issue and no All Black in the modern era should be as bad as he is at half of the game.
I am not going to lump him in the jesus/ethan category either but would probably add that if you look at it like a balance sheet, the points created (not necessarily scored directly) outweigh the points conceded as well.
Cullen retired.
When Reiko first moved to centre and even now still makes some bad defensive reads occasionally (not much anymore) but for me is one of the first picked because what he can break a game at any point and Stevenson has some of those qualities. Still has work ons but for me needs to be in the mix.
Reiko also makes most of his tackles, as well as using his speed to cover for others. Give Stevenson another good year in SR with demonstrated improvement in this aspect of his game and he should easily make the squad.
@antipodean said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Reiko also makes most of his tackles, as well as using his speed to cover for others.
He's got pretty much the best attacking stats in the comp so far
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@mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
We're probably on the 3rd line of betting at the moment. If this was a horse race Ireland would be at around the $2.50 mark, Friance and South Africa at $3s, and us probably at 4s. England at about 7s or 8s, and everyone else in double figures.
And i am happy with that. But the pretty lady in the mounting yard is probably not picking us off the parade.
You’d have to think that England would be odds on to make the final
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
We're probably on the 3rd line of betting at the moment. If this was a horse race Ireland would be at around the $2.50 mark, Friance and South Africa at $3s, and us probably at 4s. England at about 7s or 8s, and everyone else in double figures.
And i am happy with that. But the pretty lady in the mounting yard is probably not picking us off the parade.
You’d have to think that England would be odds on to make the final
their draw is the only reason they aren't at double figures, they are a knock out chance in a semi against a team coming off a war
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@Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Former Canterbury player Jon Preston had excellent analysis of Mo'unga shitness at halftime in that match
Do you have a link for that? Tbh I have suppressed memories from that game. I could see we were fŭcked from the get go. Everything that multiple posters here had warned about could happen, was happening in front of our eyes. The disheartening thing was that we, i.e. the half-arse keyboard warriors, could see this coming a mile away, yet the brains trust in the ABs were like a man being mugged in a meadow.
The crazy thing is that if that penalty hadn't been reversed for the SW brain fart we were still in with a shot. Would have been completely undeserved because we had the shit beaten out of us all game.
Actually one thing I recall reading here was how Iteoje was apparently this overhyped myth. Well fark me if that overhyped myth didn't eat our lunch that day.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Do you have a link for that?
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@Dodge said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
not tomorrow, you could turn up half cut and beat Italy
Yes there some strange shit on this forum right now. Don't criticise a ten that has underperformed for years but talk up the chances of losing to fucking Italy??
@Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@Dodge said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
not tomorrow, you could turn up half cut and beat Italy
Yes there some strange shit on this forum right now. Don't criticise a ten that has underperformed for years but talk up the chances of losing to fucking Italy??
There's actually been comments on the Fern from people saying they hope the ABs crash out as they can't stand the thought of Foster doing well.
And I'm sure it wasn't the Walrus being ironic.
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Carley is not a ref I enjoy watching, just seems overly pedantic and often leads to a stop start game. I wonder what he average time in play and penalties are for him vs the other RWC refs. Shame BOK is a kiwi as I would take him all day long.
@chimoaus said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Carley is not a ref I enjoy watching, just seems overly pedantic and often leads to a stop start game.
He's shit IMHO. The only Ref I've ever suspected of deliberate bias
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We're probably on the 3rd line of betting at the moment. If this was a horse race Ireland would be at around the $2.50 mark, Friance and South Africa at $3s, and us probably at 4s. England at about 7s or 8s, and everyone else in double figures.
And i am happy with that. But the pretty lady in the mounting yard is probably not picking us off the parade.
@mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
We're probably on the 3rd line of betting at the moment. If this was a horse race Ireland would be at around the $2.50 mark, Friance and South Africa at $3s, and us probably at 4s. England at about 7s or 8s, and everyone else in double figures.
And i am happy with that. But the pretty lady in the mounting yard is probably not picking us off the parade.
Its interesting Aus betting markets suggest they have no idea.. Ire and SA on $4, France on 4.5 and we have slid to $5.. Ireland unbelievably started at $6 in Aus
not bad odds the QFs will obviously see all these shorten or blow out
novelty bets
Eng who? $13 not bad given their draw
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I give up. I'm 8 pages behind. Have no idea what you fluffybunnies are thinking or whinging about. Makes no fucking difference.
I'm going into this game, and any other game we're lucky enough to play thereafter, as if it's a knockout because it is.
This XXIII looks pretty damned good.
I'll see all you fluffybunnies in the morning, hoping we come out on the best side of the game, and that the best side wins, and that's us.
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I give up. I'm 8 pages behind. Have no idea what you fluffybunnies are thinking or whinging about. Makes no fucking difference.
I'm going into this game, and any other game we're lucky enough to play thereafter, as if it's a knockout because it is.
This XXIII looks pretty damned good.
I'll see all you fluffybunnies in the morning, hoping we come out on the best side of the game, and that the best side wins, and that's us.
It will be a comfortable win Boo-boo.
Italy will play well and give us a good intro into knockout rugby and give us the mental and physical tune up we need before the qf
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Right. Here in Lyon. Going to the game. Can see why Kiwis like it here. More of a laid-back feel to it than Paris. Weather is good, very warm, clear, cloudless blue skies. Food is tasty, beer is cold, and everthing in good walking distance, although the Rugby Village is a bit shit, it is made up for by the charm of the old city which is slow to wake up but comes to life at night....or is that just me...lol. Certainly a lot more bonhomie here. Plenty of Kiwis and AB supporters thronging in the streets, all doing the same touristy things just waiting on the match to start. Cant wait. C'mon Black!
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Right. Here in Lyon. Going to the game. Can see why Kiwis like it here. More of a laid-back feel to it than Paris. Weather is good, very warm, clear, cloudless blue skies. Food is tasty, beer is cold, and everthing in good walking distance, although the Rugby Village is a bit shit, it is made up for by the charm of the old city which is slow to wake up but comes to life at night....or is that just me...lol. Certainly a lot more bonhomie here. Plenty of Kiwis and AB supporters thronging in the streets, all doing the same touristy things just waiting on the match to start. Cant wait. C'mon Black!
@Jailbreak7 I don’t know what “thronging in the streets” is, but I sure as fck wish I was there doing it with y’all!
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If we mess this up will be looking forward to Frank's post game analysis.
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Right. Here in Lyon. Going to the game. Can see why Kiwis like it here. More of a laid-back feel to it than Paris. Weather is good, very warm, clear, cloudless blue skies. Food is tasty, beer is cold, and everthing in good walking distance, although the Rugby Village is a bit shit, it is made up for by the charm of the old city which is slow to wake up but comes to life at night....or is that just me...lol. Certainly a lot more bonhomie here. Plenty of Kiwis and AB supporters thronging in the streets, all doing the same touristy things just waiting on the match to start. Cant wait. C'mon Black!
@Jailbreak7 said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Right. Here in Lyon. Going to the game. Can see why Kiwis like it here. More of a laid-back feel to it than Paris. Weather is good, very warm, clear, cloudless blue skies. Food is tasty, beer is cold, and everthing in good walking distance, although the Rugby Village is a bit shit, it is made up for by the charm of the old city which is slow to wake up but comes to life at night....or is that just me...lol. Certainly a lot more bonhomie here. Plenty of Kiwis and AB supporters thronging in the streets, all doing the same touristy things just waiting on the match to start. Cant wait. C'mon Black!
Fan Zone was a joke, not a screen in sight
Far better to watch matches in barsGetting to and from the stadium is laborious
Get there early, be prepared to take forever to come home
At least that was my experience last Sunday
JokeCouple of bars/vans outside the stadium before going in
They're easier to get served and have food tooInside the ground only Asahi is served
So if you're not a lager drinker you're fucked
CrazyEnjoy the match, cracking stadium
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Cheers for that mate, will do!
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Don't run shite ball, it doesn't work
Pick n go
Big fan of long or wipers
Roll the dice bring on Roigard at 50 min
Will sulk if BB does own half cross kick or dink@BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Don't run shite ball, it doesn't work
This is the key. It's that simple.
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Carley, wasn't he the ref that whistled us off the park vs the Boks? Touching in the lineout etc
Lets hope we have learnt and can adapt to his pedantic calls, or this will be a very stop start game.
You would think it would be someone's job to analyze the ref so we don't make the same stupid mistakes.Luckily for me I have the only British pub in CO just a min away, so can have a few lunch beers and watch the game.
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Looks like RMo will start..
