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    Worth sharing widely... well at least on the front page. (@Duluth pretty sure I'm not doubling up this time 😀 )

    https://thesilverfern.com/post/760-conspiracies-and-dry-powder/

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      What are the outcomes for Pool B ?

      I see Scotland are still third behind SA despite having a better points differential. I’m assuming this is cos they lost to them ?

      So given SA will trounce Tonga with the four try bonus does that mean Scotland have to beat Ireland AND score four tries to qualify for the quarters ?

      ( he said with more than a hint of hope and desperation……)

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      • MN5M MN5

        What are the outcomes for Pool B ?

        I see Scotland are still third behind SA despite having a better points differential. I’m assuming this is cos they lost to them ?

        So given SA will trounce Tonga with the four try bonus does that mean Scotland have to beat Ireland AND score four tries to qualify for the quarters ?

        ( he said with more than a hint of hope and desperation……)

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        @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

        If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

        Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

          If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

          Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

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          @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

          @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

          If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

          Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

          Sensible rules IMO

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          • voodooV voodoo

            @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

            @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

            If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

            Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

            Sensible rules IMO

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            @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

            @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

            @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

            If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

            Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

            Sensible rules IMO

            So correct me if I’m wrong but SA are a potential chance to miss out ?

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            • MN5M MN5

              @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

              @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

              @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

              If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

              Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

              Sensible rules IMO

              So correct me if I’m wrong but SA are a potential chance to miss out ?

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              voodoo
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              @MN5 said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

              @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

              @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

              @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

              If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

              Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

              Sensible rules IMO

              So correct me if I’m wrong but SA are a potential chance to miss out ?

              That would require them to be in 2nd/3rd with Ireland - ie Scotland come first in the 3-way tie on points , then SA miss out because they lost to Ireland. Not likely.

              Or if they lose to / don’t get BPs v Tonga

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

                If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

                Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

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                @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

                That assumes each team beat another in that trio in an A def B def C def A scenario, yes?

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                • NTAN NTA

                  @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                  Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

                  That assumes each team beat another in that trio in an A def B def C def A scenario, yes?

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                  @NTA said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                  @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                  Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

                  That assumes each team beat another in that trio in an A def B def C def A scenario, yes?

                  Yep, assume so

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                  • voodooV voodoo

                    @MN5 said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                    @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                    @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                    @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

                    If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

                    Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

                    Sensible rules IMO

                    So correct me if I’m wrong but SA are a potential chance to miss out ?

                    That would require them to be in 2nd/3rd with Ireland - ie Scotland come first in the 3-way tie on points , then SA miss out because they lost to Ireland. Not likely.

                    Or if they lose to / don’t get BPs v Tonga

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                    #804

                    @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                    @MN5 said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                    @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                    @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                    @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

                    If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

                    Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

                    Sensible rules IMO

                    So correct me if I’m wrong but SA are a potential chance to miss out ?

                    That would require them to be in 2nd/3rd with Ireland - ie Scotland come first in the 3-way tie on points , then SA miss out because they lost to Ireland. Not likely.

                    Or if they lose to / don’t get BPs v Tonga

                    Second option is impossible.

                    The rest is all very hypothetical and dependant on an unlikely victory for the Scots over Ireland.

                    Scots have a bad habit of shit going wrong at WCs at the last minute….unfortunately the respectable record of never missing the quarters is long gone.

                    Would be nice if things went their way

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                      @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                      @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

                      If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

                      Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

                      Sensible rules IMO

                      So correct me if I’m wrong but SA are a potential chance to miss out ?

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                      @MN5 I'd say they're the least likely to miss out.

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @MN5 I'd say they're the least likely to miss out.

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                        #806

                        @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                        @MN5 I'd say they're the least likely to miss out.

                        SA?

                        I’m confusing myself with a conversation I started. Standard.

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                        • voodooV Online
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                          Yes, SA def least likely to miss out. They need to fail against Tonga, or need Scotland to beat Ireland by about 80 points

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                          • voodooV voodoo

                            Yes, SA def least likely to miss out. They need to fail against Tonga, or need Scotland to beat Ireland by about 80 points

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                            @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                            Yes, SA def least likely to miss out. They need to fail against Tonga, or need Scotland to beat Ireland by about 80 points

                            Jeez, Ben, Vaea, Charles and the others who I don’t know better have the game of their lives then.

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                              Argentina v Chile
                              Fiji v Georgia
                              Australia v Portugal
                              SA v Tonga

                              What these four matches has shown is the underdogs have legitimately 5-6 scoring opportunities during a match, which if converted puts real pressure on their superior opponents and makes a real game of it

                              Unfortunately lack of accuracy and quality of finishing means they only convert 2-3 of these opportunities

                              If the officiating team gets things wrong that further diminishes their chance of scoring

                              Too many times in these four matches the officiating team got it wrong robbing the minnow of points, scoreboard pressure, and momentum

                              A real shame

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                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300981561/south-africa-coach-hopes-matchfixing-will-not-take-place-in-ireland-v-scotland-clash

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                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300981561/south-africa-coach-hopes-matchfixing-will-not-take-place-in-ireland-v-scotland-clash

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                                    @taniwharugby

                                    Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?

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                                      @taniwharugby

                                      Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?

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                                      @Catogrande said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                                      @taniwharugby

                                      Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?

                                      It ws put to him that Ire and Sco would do that on purpose, and he is right, that would be match fixing. It was a stupid question from NH press

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                                      • NTAN Offline
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                                        He could just have easily answered "Are you accusing Ireland and Scotland of match-fixing?" and sent the idiot journo on his way.

                                        Be fucking funny if it happened tho 🙂

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                                          Yeah that’s a bit to quick witted, he probably thought of that one in the hotel later

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