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  • voodooV voodoo

    @MN5 said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

    If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

    Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

    Sensible rules IMO

    So correct me if I’m wrong but SA are a potential chance to miss out ?

    That would require them to be in 2nd/3rd with Ireland - ie Scotland come first in the 3-way tie on points , then SA miss out because they lost to Ireland. Not likely.

    Or if they lose to / don’t get BPs v Tonga

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    @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @MN5 said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

    If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

    Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

    Sensible rules IMO

    So correct me if I’m wrong but SA are a potential chance to miss out ?

    That would require them to be in 2nd/3rd with Ireland - ie Scotland come first in the 3-way tie on points , then SA miss out because they lost to Ireland. Not likely.

    Or if they lose to / don’t get BPs v Tonga

    Second option is impossible.

    The rest is all very hypothetical and dependant on an unlikely victory for the Scots over Ireland.

    Scots have a bad habit of shit going wrong at WCs at the last minute….unfortunately the respectable record of never missing the quarters is long gone.

    Would be nice if things went their way

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    • MN5M MN5

      @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

      @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

      @MN5 If you assume SA trounce Tonga - get the bonus point and end up with the best points difference, then if Scotland finish level on points with Ireland, they will qualify.

      If the Scots don't get a four try bonus then they have to stop Ireland getting any bonus points, etc.

      Interestingly if three teams end up on the same points then the pool winner is the team with the best points diff, but the runner up is the team that won the match between the other two teams.

      Sensible rules IMO

      So correct me if I’m wrong but SA are a potential chance to miss out ?

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      @MN5 I'd say they're the least likely to miss out.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @MN5 I'd say they're the least likely to miss out.

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        @Chris-B said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

        @MN5 I'd say they're the least likely to miss out.

        SA?

        I’m confusing myself with a conversation I started. Standard.

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          Yes, SA def least likely to miss out. They need to fail against Tonga, or need Scotland to beat Ireland by about 80 points

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          • voodooV voodoo

            Yes, SA def least likely to miss out. They need to fail against Tonga, or need Scotland to beat Ireland by about 80 points

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            @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

            Yes, SA def least likely to miss out. They need to fail against Tonga, or need Scotland to beat Ireland by about 80 points

            Jeez, Ben, Vaea, Charles and the others who I don’t know better have the game of their lives then.

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              #809

              Argentina v Chile
              Fiji v Georgia
              Australia v Portugal
              SA v Tonga

              What these four matches has shown is the underdogs have legitimately 5-6 scoring opportunities during a match, which if converted puts real pressure on their superior opponents and makes a real game of it

              Unfortunately lack of accuracy and quality of finishing means they only convert 2-3 of these opportunities

              If the officiating team gets things wrong that further diminishes their chance of scoring

              Too many times in these four matches the officiating team got it wrong robbing the minnow of points, scoreboard pressure, and momentum

              A real shame

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                  taniwharugby
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                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300981561/south-africa-coach-hopes-matchfixing-will-not-take-place-in-ireland-v-scotland-clash

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300981561/south-africa-coach-hopes-matchfixing-will-not-take-place-in-ireland-v-scotland-clash

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                    @taniwharugby

                    Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?

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                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                      @taniwharugby

                      Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?

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                      @Catogrande said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                      @taniwharugby

                      Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?

                      It ws put to him that Ire and Sco would do that on purpose, and he is right, that would be match fixing. It was a stupid question from NH press

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                        He could just have easily answered "Are you accusing Ireland and Scotland of match-fixing?" and sent the idiot journo on his way.

                        Be fucking funny if it happened tho 🙂

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                          Yeah that’s a bit to quick witted, he probably thought of that one in the hotel later

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                          • M Machpants

                            Yeah that’s a bit to quick witted, he probably thought of that one in the hotel later

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                            @Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                            Yeah that’s a bit to quick witted, he probably thought of that one in the hotel later

                            I'm aware I have the luxury of hindsight 😉

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                            • CatograndeC Catogrande

                              @taniwharugby

                              Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?

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                              @Catogrande said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                              @taniwharugby

                              Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?

                              Because it is exactly the sort of thing Rassie might consider??

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                              • M Machpants

                                @Catogrande said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                                @taniwharugby

                                Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?

                                It ws put to him that Ire and Sco would do that on purpose, and he is right, that would be match fixing. It was a stupid question from NH press

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                                Catogrande
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                                @Machpants Yeah, you have a point, still a poor response. A bit of a gotcha moment.

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                                • M Machpants

                                  @Catogrande said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                                  @taniwharugby

                                  Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?

                                  It ws put to him that Ire and Sco would do that on purpose, and he is right, that would be match fixing. It was a stupid question from NH press

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                                  nostrildamus
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                                  @Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                                  @Catogrande said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                                  @taniwharugby

                                  Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?

                                  It ws put to him that Ire and Sco would do that on purpose, and he is right, that would be match fixing. It was a stupid question from NH press

                                  true, he could have answered, "Well, I don't know how they would match fix accidentally!"

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                                    The deliberate match fixing is nonsense,

                                    But I guess what is possible, Scotland throw the kitchen sink knowing if they lose they are going home ,

                                    And Ireland go in knowing they have done enough to qualify win, lose or draw

                                    And from those mindsets , stranger things have happened than an upset of these proportions.

                                    Still unlikely though imo

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                                    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                      The deliberate match fixing is nonsense,

                                      But I guess what is possible, Scotland throw the kitchen sink knowing if they lose they are going home ,

                                      And Ireland go in knowing they have done enough to qualify win, lose or draw

                                      And from those mindsets , stranger things have happened than an upset of these proportions.

                                      Still unlikely though imo

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                                      #821

                                      @kiwiinmelb said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                                      The deliberate match fixing is nonsense,

                                      But I guess what is possible, Scotland throw the kitchen sink knowing if they lose they are going home ,

                                      And Ireland go in knowing they have done enough to qualify win, lose or draw

                                      And from those mindsets , stranger things have happened than an upset of these proportions.

                                      Still unlikely though imo

                                      5th ranked team vs 1st.

                                      It’s not out of the question for them to knock them over.

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                                        nostrildamus
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                                        The Boks and NZ could I imagine not be focussed on a game and already be thinking a game ahead and get a nasty shock, but this Ireland team? They seem too disciplined. Prove me wrong, Scotland!

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                                          Based on form you'd have to go with Ireland, they know they need at least a point and they've demonstrated the capacity to maintain standards. Only this year securing the 6N grand slam.

                                          Like everyone else, the issue is can they do it for five games in a row? Even in the 6N they had Italy half way through and only won by two tries.

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