Steve Tew: New Zealand ready for a gay All Black

Stargazer

Mad Monday is keeping Chiefs management busy ... 

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Chiefs in hot water over stripper fracas 
 AUDREY MALONE Last updated 20:34, August 3 2016 
 Chiefs players also hired a stripper on the night one of them was caught chanting a homophobic slur toward teammates. 
 Franchise bosses have confirmed a stripper was engaged by players for their post-season get-together at a Waikato hot pool and said he was "Very disappointed" and conceded the two incidents weren't a good look for the professional sports franchise. 
 The Super Rugby team, which lost to the Hurricanes in their Super Rugby semifinal on Saturday, celebrated the end of their season at the Okoroire hot pools, near Matamata. Such occasions are known in rugby and rugby league as Mad Monday. 
 Chiefs CEO Andrew Flexman on Wednesday confirmed a player had hired a stripper. 
 Investigations were still ongoing as to which player it was who hired the stripper but there would be some very tough conversations with those involved, Flexman said. 
 Management were not aware the stripper had been hired and were not present when she was performing, Flexman said. 
 He said if bosses had been aware they would have put a stop to the performance before it started. 
 The stripper, who performs under the name Scarlette and did not want to use her real name for safety reasons, was booked to waitress for an hour and perform a strip routine but she said the night turned sour when players behaved badly, including touching her despite her repeated warnings not to. 
 "I told them not to pull this stuff with me. It's not on, Scarlette said. "It was a pack mentality." 
 But Flexman strongly denied the allegations of improper behaviour, saying the franchise had independent witnesses who saw nothing untoward toward the woman. 
 "You have got to remember this is one person's accusation and her standing in the community and culpability is not beyond reproach," Flexman said. 
 However, he said players actions in hiring a stripper were not up to the organisation's own standards. 
 "I don't think it's a good look. Clearly it's something as an organisation, it's not good, and it's not acceptable." 
 When asked if hiring strippers was a common incident within rugby at professional level or within the culture of rugby elsewhere, including club level, he replied: "I don't know. I mean, I don't hear of it." 
 Flexman believed it remained to be seen whether the stripper incident would impact on the relationship the Super Rugby franchise had with sponsors. 
 The team's major sponsors include Gallaghers, Waikato Draught, AON, Adidas, Placemakers and Generation Homes. 
 The incident comes after Chiefs player Michael Allardice on Tuesday apologised for chanting "here come the gays" toward teammates, who were in fancy dress costume. 
 Pools patron, Brendan Barraclough, complained about the slur and received an apology from both Flexman and Allardice. 
 In his apology for that incident Allardice said his behaviour yesterday "did not reflect the values of our team and organisation."
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taniwharugby

Lucky you werent the end of year party planner M4L!
 
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jegga

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that is fucking fucked.</blockquote>
 
Kevin Roberts has got to the top of Saatchi and Saatchi which is no mean feat and it looks like this bullshit might be the end of his career there and people can't understand why despite being a bloviating arseclown Trump got the nomination? Here's your answer right here. 
Bizarre to think there are people out there who think it's fine to drop the Chiefs player in it because " I wasn't offended but I thought other people might be offended". Ffs what a bloody shirt lifter.

Catogrande

Whilst I don't own that many shirts myself, I am offended by that statement Jegga, on behalf of anyone who owns lots of shirts. Lifted or otherwise.

jegga

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Whilst I don't own that many shirts myself, I am offended by that statement Jegga, on behalf of anyone who owns lots of shirts. Lifted or otherwise.
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Some of my best friends lift their shirts I'll have you know .

antipodean

RaGe_X

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as I grew up in Cologne, which is like gay central in Europe, I'm probably pretty oblivious to how hard some gay people have it growing up somewhere less open minded about these things.
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 :whistle:

jegga

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Kevin Roberts quits .

Catogrande

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Some of my best friends lift their shirts I'll have you know .
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It's good to see you getting right behind them.

gollum

Its a tough one I think, I mean one the one hand get the fuck over yourself, on the other hand how stupid do you have to be to shout "look at the homo!" or whatever, in a very public place & think thats going to be OK? I guess the arguement is had he shouted "Here comes the N--r!" or Coconut, would that have been cool, even if his mate didn't mind? I've got a Pak friend I call chociolate face. Because she has a chocolate face, but I'm not stupid enough to shout "Whatta you want to drink chocolate face!" across a packed bar.
 
On the Roberts one, FFS thats just dumb by him, who gets to the head of a company like that & doesn't realise there's shit you just don't touch? I wouldn't fire him for not grovelling to chicks, I'd fire him for being a fucking idiot & screwing up the company's PR.
 
A lot of the arguement used now to defend the right to say whatever about chicks & gays & dirty foriegners are the same arguments I can remember from 30 years ago in NZ when it was cool to call Fijians coconuts & Indians curries.
 
Ironically my boss called me a sheep fucker in a major meting the other day. No one batted an eyelid.
 
Part of it does feel that white blokes have had an awesome run, but now its a level playing field rather than feeling that everyone else has been made equal to us, we feel something has been taken away from us. We don't see not being allowed to call our PA sugar tits as her leveling up to equal to us, but instead as if we've lost the right to call women sugar tits. After all its just bants.

Catogrande

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Ironically my boss called me a sheep fucker in a major meting the other day. No one batted an eyelid...
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Well. If the cap fits...

Crazy Horse

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Part of it does feel that white blokes have had an awesome run, but now its a level playing field rather than feeling that everyone else has been made equal to us, we feel something has been taken away from us.</blockquote>
 
The thing is Gollum, many blokes don't see it or have the ability to express how or what they are feeling, but more and more males are starting to think it has gone past a level playing field.

booboo

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Dude I'm thrilled with the Maori hutt slut I'm with now and I pretty much called her that the second time I met her.....</blockquote>
 
Second time?

jegga

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="602845" data-time="1470233181">
Its a tough one I think, I mean one the one hand get the fuck over yourself, on the other hand how stupid do you have to be to shout "look at the homo!" or whatever, in a very public place & think thats going to be OK? I guess the arguement is had he shouted "Here comes the N--r!" or Coconut, would that have been cool, even if his mate didn't mind? I've got a Pak friend I call chociolate face. Because she has a chocolate face, but I'm not stupid enough to shout "Whatta you want to drink chocolate face!" across a packed bar. 
On the Roberts one, FFS thats just dumb by him, who gets to the head of a company like that & doesn't realise there's shit you just don't touch? I wouldn't fire him for not grovelling to chicks, I'd fire him for being a fucking idiot & screwing up the company's PR. 
A lot of the arguement used now to defend the right to say whatever about chicks & gays & dirty foriegners are the same arguments I can remember from 30 years ago in NZ when it was cool to call Fijians coconuts & Indians curries. 
Ironically my boss called me a sheep fucker in a major meting the other day. No one batted an eyelid. 
Part of it does feel that white blokes have had an awesome run, but now its a level playing field rather than feeling that everyone else has been made equal to us, we feel something has been taken away from us. We don't see not being allowed to call our PA sugar tits as her leveling up to equal to us, but instead as if we've lost the right to call women sugar tits. After all its just bants.</blockquote>
 
I disagree that it should cost Roberts his job , he probably had a point about the woman he mentioned too. 
Having said that I've known some feral people in my time but I can't say I ever heard any of them call someone " chocolate face" it's not something I'd call a brown person either .

rotated

I'm missing something with those Roberts comments. I see where he calls men idiotic and dinosaurs but given he is a man himself I'm not sure that is sexist? Where is the sexism there? 
If he wasn't already on the way out and likely financially no worse off by this move I imagine he would have a very strong wrongful termination lawsuit.

jegga

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I'm missing something with those Roberts comments. I see where he calls men idiotic and dinosaurs but given he is a man himself I'm not sure that is sexist? Where is the sexism there? 
If he wasn't already on the way out and likely financially no worse off by this move I imagine he would have a very strong wrongful termination lawsuit.</blockquote>
 
Roberts comes across as a bit eccentric/fucking odd, I'm sure there are people who were gunning for him. Pretty sad that this was enough to do it though. 
Is Nigellas husband still working for them after choking her in public?

Mokey

If Chiefs players want to go to town with strippers and whatever in a private party in a private location, shrug.
 
But a stripper at the Okoroire hot pools with members of the public around? That is just gross and fucking DUMB.
 
On a side note, I was on the side of the Chiefs CEO when he kept it factual around the stripper's accusation. As in 'she said this, independent witnesses said nope, case closed.' But then he went down the fuckwit path of "You have got to remember this is one person's accusation and her standing in the community and culpability is not beyond reproach," Flexman said.
 
Her 'standing in the community'?? Fuck off. Obviously nothing happened here, but strippers are entitled too a safe, non-threatening work environment same as everyone else.

taniwharugby

you just have to shake your head at our media...
 
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When asked if hiring strippers was a common incident within rugby at professional level or within the culture of rugby elsewhere, including club level, he replied: "I don't know. I mean, I don't hear of it."
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The point of the question is, what? Are strippers illegal? As in the other thread, they don't float my boat, but c'mon!

jegga

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you just have to shake your head at our media... 
The point of the question is, what? Are strippers illegal? As in the other thread, they don't float my boat, but c'mon!</blockquote>
 
I hope none of these Helen Lovejoy clones never watch The Ground we won.

No Quarter

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The Hutt part is even worse.

The Silver Fern

Steve Tew: New Zealand ready for a gay All Black