Steve Tew: New Zealand ready for a gay All Black
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Christ on a bike, when did I claim white men were victims? Fuck you write some shit.
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<p>oh christ, here we go again with the straight white men are the real victim argument, poor dear.</p>
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<p>firstly, you can't call a straight white man anything you want. if someone started sounding off in your workplace about your pathetically tiny cock, or called you a paedophile, or a rapist, how would that go down?</p>
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<p>secondly, the reason you can't slag off the discriminated against is that they are fucking discriminated against and it perpetuates that. the woman on her rags one is just shit, because it implies that women cannot think clearly. women are paid less and get worse jobs in this country right now because that sort of attitude still exists, as ridiculous as that may seem. it is fucking wrong, people should not say it, and they should get taken to task when they do. you would want to know someone pretty bloody well (see what i did there?) and be in private for that joke to be appropriate.</p>
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<p>there is a reason that sheep-fucker can be inoffensive. it can't really be interpreted as a serious accusation rather than a joke, and it is used to place someone in a group of what? the rural? nzers vs aussies? the welsh? pillow biter and goat-fucker a little less so, but i don't care about stuff like that - except that they're just kinda shit jokes - what's appropriate between individuals is totally up to them.</p>
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<p>and just for the record, before the baron pops along to call me regressive left again, i think free speech is far more important than not offending people - because free speech means that if someone is being an offensive fluffybunny they can be called an offensive fluffybunny. </p>
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<p>here come the gays i don't give a shit about, and robertson should still have his job - the fella saying the stripper shouldn't be believed because she's a stripper is easily the worst of them. </p>
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<p>Fuck off. I had not even been involved int his conversation. So take your snide bullshit and stick it up your ass.</p>
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<p>Christ on a bike, when did I claim white men were victims? Fuck you write some shit.</p>
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<p>Why is it ok to call you a sheep fucker but career suicide to call an arab a goat/camel fucker, a gay a pillow biter or to allude to a woman being on her rags? Actually, I bet your boss would never dare say that to a Kiwi woman. I think what people are objecting to is<strong> this incredible double standard where you can say whatever the hell you like about one particular group, i.e. straight white men, but it's absolutely beyond the pale if they make similar comments about other groups. That's not a level playing field, that's one group basically being told to suck it up</strong> while others being actively encouraged to be offended at anything the perpetually outraged tell them to be offended about.</p>
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<p>Fuck off. I had not even been involved int his conversation. So take your snide bullshit and stick it up your ass.</p>
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<p>Now carry on your crusade without involving me.</p>
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<p>yeah fair enough actually, consider it in my ass.</p> -
<p>we already have a topic discussing some of this in Off Topic, and me being the topic police might move this to that other thread soon anyway....</p>
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It's just dawned on me!<br><br>
TSF is becoming like Planet Rugby. Just getting shitter and shitter by the day caused by a certain few</p></blockquote>
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<p>Seems on-topic to me: how a New Zealand rugby franchise can undo all of its good will in four days.</p>
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<p>Here's the latest from the Chiefs major sponsor...</p>
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<span style="color:rgb(15,36,62);font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">Major sponsor Gallagher Group on Thursday offered little sympathy for the stripper with corporate services executive Margaret Comer saying: “If a woman takes her clothes off and walks around in a group of men, what are we supposed to do if one of them tries to touch her.â€</span></blockquote> -
<p>why do the media feel the need to get the sponsors to comment, are they wanting them to come out and say 'how atrocious, we will cancel our sponsorship deal immediately!!'</p>
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<p>Seems on-topic to me: how a New Zealand rugby franchise can undo all of its good will in four days.</p>
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<p>Here's the latest from the Chiefs major sponsor...</p>
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<p>Why would anyone say that in public? Terrible PR, and a pretty shitty thing to say. No rights just because she's a stripper? What about if it was a girl in a short skirt? Same deal?</p> -
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<p>why do the media feel the need to get the sponsors to comment, are they wanting them to come out and say 'how atrocious, we will cancel our sponsorship deal immediately!!'</p>
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<p>Pretty much. Sponsors turned their backs on Tiger and Sharapova so it's a good source in a developing story. The Gallagher Group executive accepted an offer for an interview so it's not like her comments came off-guard as she was ambushed in the Countdown carpark.</p> -
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Why would anyone say that in public? Terrible PR, and a pretty shitty thing to say. No rights just because she's a stripper? What about if it was a girl in a short skirt? Same deal?</p></blockquote>
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They sell electric fences , they probably feel on safe ground with their customers saying something like that .<br><br>
Because I've led a sheltered life I know very little about strippers and such like but according to my favourite thread ever they usually have someone with them to stop the gropers/drunks? -
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<p>Pretty much. Sponsors turned their backs on Tiger and Sharapova so it's a good source in a developing story. The Gallagher Group executive accepted an offer for an interview so it's not like her comments came off-guard as she was ambushed in the Countdown carpark.</p>
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<p>I realize that, but seriously, with all that is going on in the world they seek out comment from a sponsor about a sports team they give money about a story on a stripper at a party?</p>
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<p>Interesting it was a women at Gallagher that made the comment too, woulda made more sense to say 'go away, this isn't news', I seriously doubt they are gonna go to Stuff and break the news of canning a sponsorship</p> -
<p>Someone is always offended about something these days.</p>
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<p>I call some of my mates of different ethnicities names what could be seen as racist and vise versa. People are probably offended by it, but who gives a shit, it has nothing to do with them.</p>
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<p>Re the stripper, I could guarantee she and every stripper under the sun have people try to grope them every time they're working. If you're going to take your clothes off in front of (usually) drunk strangers and wiggle your bits in their faces, with the specific intention of earning more money, surely putting up with the odd stray hand grabbing a feel of said bits comes with the job? And why only cry to the media when it's someone 'famous'? Nothing but attention seeking from all involved.</p>
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<p>Here's a tip lady - if you don't like the hazards of your job, find yourself a new career.</p> -
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<p>Seems on-topic to me: how a New Zealand rugby franchise can undo all of its good will in four days.</p>
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<p>Here's the latest from the Chiefs major sponsor...</p>
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<p>Jesus fuck.</p>
<p>Dear Chiefs rugby: the whole 'lifetime to build, seconds to destroy' reputation thing is actually true.</p>
<p>And Margaret Comer: go fuck yourself. The stripper was not some random girl who walked around with her clothes off. She was a stripper, hired for a job. There are rules.</p>
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<p>Jesus fuck.</p>
<p>Dear Chiefs rugby: the whole 'lifetime to build, seconds to destroy' reputation thing is actually true.</p>
<p>And Margaret Comer: go fuck yourself. The stripper was not some random girl who walked around with her clothes off. She was a stripper, hired for a job. There are rules.</p>
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<p>This woman-hating attitude is terrible PR, and rather ugly.</p>
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<p>I wonder how much longer she'll be a trustee of Waikato Women's Refuge . . . </p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.waikatowomensrefuge.co.nz/our-board/margaret-comer'>https://www.waikatowomensrefuge.co.nz/our-board/margaret-comer</a></p> -
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<p>I wonder how much longer she'll be a trustee of Waikato Women's Refuge . . . </p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.waikatowomensrefuge.co.nz/our-board/margaret-comer'>https://www.waikatowomensrefuge.co.nz/our-board/margaret-comer</a></p>
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<p>Ugh. That just makes it worse. Along with the fact that she oversees HR stuff at the Gallagher Group.</p> -
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<p>I wonder how much longer she'll be a trustee of Waikato Women's Refuge . . . </p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.waikatowomensrefuge.co.nz/our-board/margaret-comer'>https://www.waikatowomensrefuge.co.nz/our-board/margaret-comer</a></p>
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<p>are you fucking serious? I'm... just... wow. </p>
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<p>This is like a case study in how to make an organisation look like a complete bunch of fluffybunnies over a small issue</p>
