All Blacks 2023
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Try reading the thread, it's clear he's been discussing it. In my opinion that's a moan.
An interesting question would be was Marshall asked to release this to cause trouble? In any case, I want us to win the World Cup, any distractions like this should be obviously avoided.
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Try reading the thread, it's clear he's been discussing it. In my opinion that's a moan.
An interesting question would be was Marshall asked to release this to cause trouble? In any case, I want us to win the World Cup, any distractions like this should be obviously avoided.
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@Kirwan Bs and bs. In 2019 they started the process after the RWC and we all saw that that was too late.
And going to RWC to watch games live isn't the same as "floating around the current setup". Even watching ABs games isn't too close to the squad.
I actually think being there and watching the RWC as a coach rather than a spectator, chatting with other coaches etc may contribute to a good preparation of his next job.
Who says Robertson has been moaning to his "mates". You're just making shit up.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@Kirwan Bs and bs. In 2019 they started the process after the RWC and we all saw that that was too late.
And going to RWC to watch games live isn't the same as "floating around the current setup". Even watching ABs games isn't too close to the squad.
I actually think being there and watching the RWC as a coach rather than a spectator, chatting with other coaches etc may contribute to a good preparation of his next job.
Who says Robertson has been moaning to his "mates". You're just making shit up.
Not sure you should have taken that bait...
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@Dan54 why wouldnt he?
As above, pretty sure he said before his appointment as AB coach he said he was going, why should he change his plans?
As a coach something like this would be a great opportunity to see and speak with other coaches, get some 'learnings', plus, what else has he got going on, he doesnt officially start until 01/11 and most of his players will be off on holiday in the next week or 3...
@taniwharugby Yep fair enough, perhaps it pretty unusual to have incoming coach appointed before WC and I was just working off Rennie saying he thought it would be no point in him being at 2019 WC. He may of had constraints too anyway.
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@Victor-Meldrew obviously getting lawyers involved says otherwise about Foster
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2023:
@Victor-Meldrew obviously getting lawyers involved says otherwise about Foster
Really?
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@Kirwan I doubt Marshall needed anyone to ask him to release anything, its clear he sees fault in the current set up and saw an opportunity to stir shit up
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Kirwan I doubt Marshall needed anyone to ask him to release anything, its clear he sees fault in the current set up and saw an opportunity to stir shit up
Or it's Justin who likes to stir things up anyway.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:
And this sort of crap is why you don't pick a coach before the end of another's tenure.
Obvious he shouldn't be floating around the current setup, and no need to be at the games either. Start getting organised and stop moaning to your mates about ole meany Foster.
Rubbish. Can you imagine the shit storm that would be surrounding the question of who will coach next year after a record loss on the eve of the rwc followed by our first ever pool loss? Razor break dancing in the middle of the dressing room before the game would be a minuscule distraction compared to that circus.
Foster already used the distraction card when his original contract got extended early. The following two years have been a disaster.
Not being at trainings and in the sheds is 100% reasonable. Not being allowed in the stadium Far from the players to watch would be pretty ridiculous and petty. Are our management and players really that mentally fragile that it would cause issues? Maybe they are.
@pukunui said in All Blacks 2023:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:
And this sort of crap is why you don't pick a coach before the end of another's tenure.
Obvious he shouldn't be floating around the current setup, and no need to be at the games either. Start getting organised and stop moaning to your mates about ole meany Foster.
Rubbish. Can you imagine the shit storm that would be surrounding the question of who will coach next year after a record loss on the eve of the rwc followed by our first ever pool loss? Razor break dancing in the middle of the dressing room before the game would be a minuscule distraction compared to that circus.
Foster already used the distraction card when his original contract got extended early. The following two years have been a disaster.
Not being at trainings and in the sheds is 100% reasonable. Not being allowed in the stadium Far from the players to watch would be pretty ridiculous and petty. Are our management and players really that mentally fragile that it would cause issues? Maybe they are.
Though to be fair appointing a coach early is causing distractions as proved by these posts.
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@pukunui said in All Blacks 2023:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:
And this sort of crap is why you don't pick a coach before the end of another's tenure.
Obvious he shouldn't be floating around the current setup, and no need to be at the games either. Start getting organised and stop moaning to your mates about ole meany Foster.
Rubbish. Can you imagine the shit storm that would be surrounding the question of who will coach next year after a record loss on the eve of the rwc followed by our first ever pool loss? Razor break dancing in the middle of the dressing room before the game would be a minuscule distraction compared to that circus.
Foster already used the distraction card when his original contract got extended early. The following two years have been a disaster.
Not being at trainings and in the sheds is 100% reasonable. Not being allowed in the stadium Far from the players to watch would be pretty ridiculous and petty. Are our management and players really that mentally fragile that it would cause issues? Maybe they are.
Though to be fair appointing a coach early is causing distractions as proved by these posts.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:
And this sort of crap is why you don't pick a coach before the end of another's tenure.
Obvious he shouldn't be floating around the current setup, and no need to be at the games either. Start getting organised and stop moaning to your mates about ole meany Foster.
Rubbish. Can you imagine the shit storm that would be surrounding the question of who will coach next year after a record loss on the eve of the rwc followed by our first ever pool loss? Razor break dancing in the middle of the dressing room before the game would be a minuscule distraction compared to that circus.
Foster already used the distraction card when his original contract got extended early. The following two years have been a disaster.
Not being at trainings and in the sheds is 100% reasonable. Not being allowed in the stadium Far from the players to watch would be pretty ridiculous and petty. Are our management and players really that mentally fragile that it would cause issues? Maybe they are.
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@Dan54 Distractions to whom? I haven't seen any proof of players being distracted. These posts proof nothing but paying too much attention to something said by Marshall.
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@Dan54 Distractions to whom? I haven't seen any proof of players being distracted. These posts proof nothing but paying too much attention to something said by Marshall.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@Dan54 Distractions to whom? I haven't seen any proof of players being distracted. These posts proof nothing but paying too much attention to something said by Marshall.
Well it's certainly distracting plenty here mate. Don't get me wrong, I not against Razor being appointed , or being in France, but I agree he should steer clear of team etc (he said the same) but by press and some posters saying Foster is behind it all surely just causes even more angst. Now if he wasn't appointed until after it wouldn't be an issue or distraction. And I repeat I not against him being appointed early just pointing out what is happening right on the thread!
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@Dan54 Distractions to whom? I haven't seen any proof of players being distracted. These posts proof nothing but paying too much attention to something said by Marshall.
Well it's certainly distracting plenty here mate. Don't get me wrong, I not against Razor being appointed , or being in France, but I agree he should steer clear of team etc (he said the same) but by press and some posters saying Foster is behind it all surely just causes even more angst. Now if he wasn't appointed until after it wouldn't be an issue or distraction. And I repeat I not against him being appointed early just pointing out what is happening right on the thread!
@Dan54 hopefully the players have been blocked form TSF then
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The most important position in a Rugby team is Tighthead Prop. The second most important position in a Rugby team is backup Tighthead Prop. Losing Tyrell Lomax for a World Cup knockout would be a massive blow for the All Blacks.
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The most important position in a Rugby team is Tighthead Prop. The second most important position in a Rugby team is backup Tighthead Prop. Losing Tyrell Lomax for a World Cup knockout would be a massive blow for the All Blacks.
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This is all true. He’s been back in chch for over a week now. He went over to attend a couple of functions and observe a couple of other teams. Not allowed to attend abs games. I get the training situation. It all seems a little petty from foster.
@chchfanatic I know you’ve always been
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@junior said in All Blacks 2023:
However, I do find it weird that Foster had to say it and / or that Razor had to be told - does not reflect well on either of them in my view.
Did either of them say it or is it just bollocks? Foster doesn't come across as precious and Robertson had made his non-interaction with the ABs clear yonks ago.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
@junior said in All Blacks 2023:
However, I do find it weird that Foster had to say it and / or that Razor had to be told - does not reflect well on either of them in my view.
Did either of them say it or is it just bollocks? Foster doesn't come across as precious and Robertson had made his non-interaction with the ABs clear yonks ago.
Asking Razor to stay away from games in stadiums with tens of thousands of other people is such an odd request that Foster himself could admit to it during a press conference and I wouldn't believe it. Sounds an awful lot like 2 + 2 = 500
