Steve Tew: New Zealand ready for a gay All Black

Mokey

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Seems on-topic to me: how a New Zealand rugby franchise can undo all of its good will in four days.
 
Here's the latest from the Chiefs major sponsor...
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Jesus fuck.
Dear Chiefs rugby: the whole 'lifetime to build, seconds to destroy' reputation thing is actually true.
And Margaret Comer: go fuck yourself. The stripper was not some random girl who walked around with her clothes off. She was a stripper, hired for a job. There are rules.
 
This woman-hating attitude is terrible PR, and rather ugly.

Smudge

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Jesus fuck.
Dear Chiefs rugby: the whole 'lifetime to build, seconds to destroy' reputation thing is actually true.
And Margaret Comer: go fuck yourself. The stripper was not some random girl who walked around with her clothes off. She was a stripper, hired for a job. There are rules.
 
This woman-hating attitude is terrible PR, and rather ugly.
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I wonder how much longer she'll be a trustee of Waikato Women's Refuge . . . 
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.waikatowomensrefuge.co.nz/our-board/margaret-comer'>https://www.waikatowomensrefuge.co.nz/our-board/margaret-comer</a>

Mokey

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I wonder how much longer she'll be a trustee of Waikato Women's Refuge . . . 
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.waikatowomensrefuge.co.nz/our-board/margaret-comer'>https://www.waikatowomensrefuge.co.nz/our-board/margaret-comer</a>
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Ugh. That just makes it worse. Along with the fact that she oversees HR stuff at the Gallagher Group.

mariner4life

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I wonder how much longer she'll be a trustee of Waikato Women's Refuge . . . 
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.waikatowomensrefuge.co.nz/our-board/margaret-comer'>https://www.waikatowomensrefuge.co.nz/our-board/margaret-comer</a>
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are you fucking serious? I'm... just... wow. 
 
This is like a case study in how to make an organisation look like a complete bunch of fluffybunnies over a small issue

Mokey

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are you fucking serious? I'm... just... wow. 
 
This is like a case study in how to make an organisation look like a complete bunch of fluffybunnys over a small issue
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Exactly. One line about being concerned, investigating the allegations and further update to come = no problem. Instead they have a shitstorm, and only themselves to blame, for making the kind of extremely stupid comments that media LOVE.

WillieTheWaiter

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Interesting it was a women at Gallagher that made the comment too, woulda made more sense to say 'go away, this isn't news', I seriously doubt they are gonna go to Stuff and break the news of canning a sponsorship
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mate you need to know this woman. She makes me feel uncomfortable with her comments - and that's fcuking saying something!
 
first time I witnessed her in action I just assumed she was hammered. but no, that's just how she is!

Baron Silas Greenback

Clint Eastwood has it right
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/08/clint-eastwood-pussy-generation-needs-fcking-get-racism/'>http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/08/clint-eastwood-pussy-generation-needs-fcking-get-racism/</a>

Baron Silas Greenback

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mate you need to know this woman. She makes me feel uncomfortable with her comments - and that's fcuking saying something!
 
first time I witnessed her in action I just assumed she was hammered. but no, that's just how she is!
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That is one of the most unbelievable things I have ever read on TSF, I actually had to read your post twice!

Bovidae

I can't believe this story led the 6 pm news tonight. If Mad Mondays have been a tradition for Super rugby teams in the past they've obviously been uneventful. 
 
Hansen is right - time to get rid of them.

SabalomG

replace them with mild mondays

mariner4life

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I can't believe this story led the 6 pm news tonight. If Mad Mondays have been a tradition for Super rugby teams in the past they've obviously been uneventful. 
 
Hansen is right - time to get rid of them. 
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get rid of what though? Blokes getting on the sauce at the end of the season? how can you get rid of that?

MN5

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Clint Eastwood has it right
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/08/clint-eastwood-pussy-generation-needs-fcking-get-racism/'>http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/08/clint-eastwood-pussy-generation-needs-fcking-get-racism/</a>
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Clint is a bit of a contradiction at times but given that he is the coolest man to ever walk the planet that can be forgiven.

antipodean

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mooshld

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Clint Eastwood has it right
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/08/clint-eastwood-pussy-generation-needs-fcking-get-racism/'>http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/08/clint-eastwood-pussy-generation-needs-fcking-get-racism/</a>
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Rich white man never experiences racism therefore we are all pussies and should get over ourselves. Solid advice.

mooshld

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Re the stripper, I could guarantee she and every stripper under the sun have people try to grope them every time they're working. If you're going to take your clothes off in front of (usually) drunk strangers and wiggle your bits in their faces, with the specific intention of earning more money, surely putting up with the odd stray hand grabbing a feel of said bits comes with the job? And why only cry to the media when it's someone 'famous'? Nothing but attention seeking from all involved.
 
Here's a tip lady - if you don't like the hazards of your job, find yourself a new career.
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I am not sure if you have ever been to the rippers but that's not how it works in any civilised society. The rules are clear they can touch you cannot. Breaking that rule usually gets you kicked out, if you're lucky, and roughed up if you're not. It should get you arrested but because of this bullshit attitude that strippers are all sluts and deserve it the police probably don't take those kind of things as seriously as they should and the strippers probably don't feel they have the protections they deserve. 
 
Here is a tip for you, if you havent walked a mile in her clear heels don't push your puritan agenda on her. She has the right to do the job she chooses without being assaulted. If you can't keep your hands to yourself when you see a naked woman that is your issue not hers. Why should she work a checkout or be a lawyer if being a stripper gives her days off and pays more. Its none of your business why she chooses this job.
 
Now was she assaulted? I have no idea the truth will come out in the wash. But this idea that she "deserves it" or should "expect it" for being a stripper can fuck right off. When you hire a stripper you hire an entertainer not a slave to do with as you please.
 
Finally to the CEO and the HR lady do your fuckin jobs no one cares what you think about her morals. Answer the questions you can, and leave the bait for the fish. I am sure some of you will try and call this out for white knighting the girl. But honestly I am speaking out in protection of the industry, ask yourself do you really want to live in a world with no strippers?
 
Mooshld

jegga

So will Flexman have a job on monday?
 
Also is this the same Scarlette?

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I can't believe this story led the 6 pm news tonight. If Mad Mondays have been a tradition for Super rugby teams in the past they've obviously been uneventful. 
 
Hansen is right - time to get rid of them. 
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Fkn Hansen.
 
Stealin' my ideas again.
 
Told him he should win the RWC in 2007 as well.

Baron Silas Greenback

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Rich white man never experiences racism therefore we are all pussies and should get over ourselves. Solid advice.
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How would you know if he has experienced racism or not??
 
Unless you are of the school that you cannot be racist towards whites?

Catogrande

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I am not sure if you have ever been to the rippers but that's not how it works in any civilised society. The rules are clear they can touch you cannot. Breaking that rule usually gets you kicked out, if you're lucky, and roughed up if you're not. It should get you arrested but because of this bullshit attitude that strippers are all sluts and deserve it the police probably don't take those kind of things as seriously as they should and the strippers probably don't feel they have the protections they deserve. 
 
Here is a tip for you, if you havent walked a mile in her clear heels don't push your puritan agenda on her. She has the right to do the job she chooses without being assaulted. If you can't keep your hands to yourself when you see a naked woman that is your issue not hers. Why should she work a checkout or be a lawyer if being a stripper gives her days off and pays more. Its none of your business why she chooses this job.
 
Now was she assaulted? I have no idea the truth will come out in the wash. But this idea that she "deserves it" or should "expect it" for being a stripper can fuck right off. When you hire a stripper you hire an entertainer not a slave to do with as you please.
 
Finally to the CEO and the HR lady do your fuckin jobs no one cares what you think about her morals. Answer the questions you can, and leave the bait for the fish. I am sure some of you will try and call this out for white knighting the girl. But honestly I am speaking out in protection of the industry, ask yourself do you really want to live in a world with no strippers?
 
Mooshld
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I'm torn on this one really mooshld. I get what you're saying and basically agree with it. Her career choice, who's to judge it? Not me, that's for sure - but she HAS made that choice and HAS to know that things are not going to go by the rules all the time and therefore HAS to accept that such things are bound to happen in her career of choice. Rightly or wrongly. It's like playing rugby and then whining to all and sundry when you get a whack 'cos you're a 7 and constantly offside. I'm not for a minute suggesting she should put up with this sort of behaviour but it sure as hell shouldn't surprise her.
 
Young men, booze, testosterone. Naked girls. What could possibly go wrong?

mooshld

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I'm torn on this one really mooshld. I get what you're saying and basically agree with it. Her career choice, who's to judge it? Not me, that's for sure - but she HAS made that choice and HAS to know that things are not going to go by the rules all the time and therefore HAS to accept that such things are bound to happen in her career of choice. Rightly or wrongly. It's like playing rugby and then whining to all and sundry when you get a whack 'cos you're a 7 and constantly offside. I'm not for a minute suggesting she should put up with this sort of behaviour but it sure as hell shouldn't surprise her.
 
Young men, booze, testosterone. Naked girls. What could possibly go wrong?
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Who says it surprises her? I very much doubt this lady needs any middle age rugby forum poster telling her about the possible risks involved in doing this work. But that won't stop half the country mansplaining to her how risky, stripping at private parties can be, and how she should just accept sexual assault as an unpleasant aside to her work life balance.
 
But put yourself in her situation. You take a job explain the painfully simple rules but the guys ignore them and get touchy, what would you do? Take it on the chin? (Possible pun intended) Because some dudes can't respect the rules. Now remember these guys are like Hamilton royalty if there is such a thing, and she is already looked down on by all a sundry for her low morales. So other then the media who should she go to? Now its out there it has to be taken seriously by the police and the chiefs can't ignore it.
 
So she may be looking for her 15 minutes or she may be taking pretty much the only avenue available to her to do something about this. We don't know if she has complained to the police about assaults in the past to be ignored or if she has had a bouncer to rough these fellahs up in the past. We don't know a thing about her. But she has made a complaint and it should be taken seriously and people should put aside their personal beliefs about when sexual assault suddenly becomes acceptable. Because the law says it never is.

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Steve Tew: New Zealand ready for a gay All Black