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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • ChrisC Chris

    Yep I would love to see us send Ireland out of the WC,Put a dent in their ego and get some revenge from past losses.
    If we can we are in the Final as we will win the SF.
    Meet SA in the final and make it a SH final how good.

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    @Chris pretty much what most fans opposing the ABs over the years have said πŸ˜‚

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      Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

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        Ireland will go after Ioane. But NZ can go after Gibson-Park and Sexton. Force Sexton to put his physical all into the game and watch as he whinges and whines and loses his focus. La Rochelle did it to him. No surprise that O’Gara knows how to get under his skin.

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          Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

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          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

          We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

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            @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

            We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

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            @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

            We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

            Test rugby you mean πŸ˜‰

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              @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

              We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

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              @canefan first half vs France was good. Stay in touch and if the opportunity to play with penalty advantage or their mistake comes, execute.

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                @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @bayimports whatever they did before Ellis Park 2022…do it again.

                One of the hallmarks of the Foster era is the inconsistency. If we simply didn't have the cattle and were clearly just not good enough I could begrudgingly accept that. But we show glimpses of how good we can be, which is infuriating

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                @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @bayimports whatever they did before Ellis Park 2022…do it again.

                One of the hallmarks of the Foster era is the inconsistency. If we simply didn't have the cattle and were clearly just not good enough I could begrudgingly accept that. But we show glimpses of how good we can be, which is infuriating

                Well said that man. This is going to be tough but we can do it. If not then good luck to the Irish. That is where my family is from originally. You just have to love the support they bring.

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                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                  @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

                  We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

                  Test rugby you mean πŸ˜‰

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                  @MiketheSnow teams know to beat the ABs is by scoring tries. Where Ireland and France have improved, less so SA, is that they know they don’t have to do it from minute 1. But they do need to take their chances when they have good territory.

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                    Ireland will go after Ioane. But NZ can go after Gibson-Park and Sexton. Force Sexton to put his physical all into the game and watch as he whinges and whines and loses his focus. La Rochelle did it to him. No surprise that O’Gara knows how to get under his skin.

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                    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    Gibson-Park

                    That's the key. Ireland are a shadow of the usual without him.

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

                      We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

                      Test rugby you mean πŸ˜‰

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                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

                      We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

                      Test rugby you mean πŸ˜‰

                      Yes, I miss it sometimes πŸ˜”. A reunion on the weekend would be great

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                        @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        Gibson-Park

                        That's the key. Ireland are a shadow of the usual without him.

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                        @Bones Aaron Smith put Dupont in his pocket for the majority of the French test in game 1 of World Cup. He can do the same to Gibson-Park. Roigard will hopefully be the bench option to come in and bring the intensity and harass.

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                          @canefan first half vs France was good. Stay in touch and if the opportunity to play with penalty advantage or their mistake comes, execute.

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                          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @canefan first half vs France was good. Stay in touch and if the opportunity to play with penalty advantage or their mistake comes, execute.

                          Yup. Problems started when they wanted to run them about by going wide. Just got too cute

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                            There will be a yellow card in this game. Both teams are cynical in the red zone.

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                              Shelve the 50:50 passes unless they come off. πŸ‘

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                                Shelve the 50:50 passes unless they come off. πŸ‘

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                                @BerniesCorner said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                Shelve the 50:50 passes unless they come off. πŸ‘

                                In the right part of the field, okay maybe. But not in our own half

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                                  @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  @canefan first half vs France was good. Stay in touch and if the opportunity to play with penalty advantage or their mistake comes, execute.

                                  Yup. Problems started when they wanted to run them about by going wide. Just got too cute

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                                  @canefan learnings 😬. Uruguay wasn’t a bad test for the ABs as they were super competitive at the breakdown (like Ireland) and disrupted ball. ABs had to work through and around it to be able to play.

                                  Their overall play isn’t the same standard as Ireland, but they are similar in many facets.

                                  ABs will need to dismantle the Irish line out or force them to have poor ball. Line out is a weakness of Irish in this World Cup. SA had lots of possession and territory as a result, but SA showed in Twickenham test and in Ireland test that they lack the ruthless edge to convert their many opportunities.

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                                    https://x.com/marchintonnz/status/1710980773807800483?s=46&t=Xyr9rqvpyxuZ6mu4OxMcYA

                                    Foster says Lomax is improving. Not ruled out of QF

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                                      https://x.com/marchintonnz/status/1710980773807800483?s=46&t=Xyr9rqvpyxuZ6mu4OxMcYA

                                      Foster says Lomax is improving. Not ruled out of QF

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                                      @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      https://x.com/marchintonnz/status/1710980773807800483?s=46&t=Xyr9rqvpyxuZ6mu4OxMcYA

                                      Foster says Lomax is improving. Not ruled out of QF

                                      Hopefully he makes it and shows he’s Himax.

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                                        @Bones Aaron Smith put Dupont in his pocket for the majority of the French test in game 1 of World Cup. He can do the same to Gibson-Park. Roigard will hopefully be the bench option to come in and bring the intensity and harass.

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                                        @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        @Bones Aaron Smith put Dupont in his pocket for the majority of the French test in game 1 of World Cup. He can do the same to Gibson-Park. Roigard will hopefully be the bench option to come in and bring the intensity and harass.

                                        Swap Havili for Kirifi and send him out on a mission.

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                                          @Chris pretty much what most fans opposing the ABs over the years have said πŸ˜‚

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                                          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @Chris pretty much what most fans opposing the ABs over the years have said πŸ˜‚

                                          Not now though is it,they say we would prefer to play the ABs in the QF why because they think we are easy to beat.
                                          Times have changed under Fozzie.

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