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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • BonesB Bones

    Barnes please.

    This is all about redemption.

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    When's the team named?

    This thread is gonna go all over shop this week.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      When's the team named?

      This thread is gonna go all over shop this week.

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      @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      When's the team named?

      This thread is gonna go all over shop this week.

      Fucking bullshit . Fozzie apologist.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        When's the team named?

        This thread is gonna go all over shop this week.

        Fucking bullshit . Fozzie apologist.

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        @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        When's the team named?

        This thread is gonna go all over shop this week.

        Fucking bullshit . Fozzie apologist.

        You've got FDS, you need to take your negativity (and any semblance of reality) out of this thread!

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          @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          When's the team named?

          This thread is gonna go all over shop this week.

          Fucking bullshit . Fozzie apologist.

          You've got FDS, you need to take your negativity (and any semblance of reality) out of this thread!

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          @Machpants I know Taukeiaho and Roigard were blooded into the team and the system like the best ever, you won't see better. Plus Taylor rediscovered his form as a result of Taukeiaho being given extremely limited game time, plus we got to see Christie really isn't up to it because he got so much game time

          But 🤮

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            When's the team named?

            This thread is gonna go all over shop this week.

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            @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            When's the team named?

            This thread is gonna go all over shop this week.

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              I’m just looking forward to the images of Sexton on the bench in the 72nd minute, with his eyes glazed over, channeling 2007 DC with a thousand-yard stare.

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                I’m just looking forward to the images of Sexton on the bench in the 72nd minute, with his eyes glazed over, channeling 2007 DC with a thousand-yard stare.

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                @game_film said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                I’m just looking forward to the images of Sexton on the bench in the 72nd minute, with his eyes glazed over, channeling 2007 DC with a thousand-yard stare.

                would this be the biggest choke ever if Ireland continued to never win a knockout game with this team, and this level of international dominance?

                Let's go Black - hoping for the best, but fearful of what a properly disciplined team will do against us.

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                  1. the ruck. this is where they are the best in the world. We need to disrupt without being penalised, and stop them from doing the same to us. Ireland have realised that rucks are more frequent than any other contest for possession, and the biggest source of turnovers and penalties in almost every single game, and this is where their focus is. i find it really disturbing that so many comments above on 'how we can win it' talk about every bloody other thing and don't mention this: everything else is secondary.
                  2. they obstruct terribly and get away with it, and chase well when the ball is in the air. this is the other area where they are clearly better than us, and it ought to be brought up with the referees in advance and worked on heavily by us, as it isn't that hard - just needs people to know what their roles are.
                  3. discipline. it's hard enough to beat them without going down to 14 men.
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                    Hope they realised how thier lack of physicality was a major issue then, as it has been on and mostly off for the past 4 years.

                    There is a special line from Retallick in this for you @mariner4life

                    Retallick says he has enjoyed the atmosphere the Irish fans have brought to the tournament, particularly the renditions of the 1990s pop song 'Zombie'.

                    "I think that's one of the awesome parts about a World Cup, the enthusiasm the crowd bring," he added. "I've seen them singing the Cranberries, it's a great song, but hopefully they're not singing it on Saturday."

                    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/rugby-world-cup-2023/2023/10/rugby-world-cup-semi-final-defeat-four-years-ago-motivation-for-all-blacks-in-blockbuster-knockout-against-ireland.html

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                      when sexton starts choking and missing kicks i could handle an 'in your head, in your heeeaad" or two.
                      still a shit song though.

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                        Give 110 percent
                        Leave it all on the field
                        Play for the jersey
                        Do it for the people back home
                        Play with a chip on your shoulder
                        Get stuck in

                        It’s the best sporting cliches that really matter

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                          Ooh complaining about it being unfair, mental weakness?

                          Sexcovkwomble said “We are delighted to win the pool. This is where we want to be now in a quarterfinal against the toughest opposition we could get,” Sexton said after their final pool match against the Scots.

                          “The way the draw was made three years ago, it turned out a bit unfair. It is the hand that we were dealt and we have to be ready for New Zealand next week.”

                          But probably just pointing to the fact he's a whiny fluffybunny. We can whine, we're fans, he's Pro and should be above that

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                            1. the ruck. this is where they are the best in the world. We need to disrupt without being penalised, and stop them from doing the same to us. Ireland have realised that rucks are more frequent than any other contest for possession, and the biggest source of turnovers and penalties in almost every single game, and this is where their focus is. i find it really disturbing that so many comments above on 'how we can win it' talk about every bloody other thing and don't mention this: everything else is secondary.
                            2. they obstruct terribly and get away with it, and chase well when the ball is in the air. this is the other area where they are clearly better than us, and it ought to be brought up with the referees in advance and worked on heavily by us, as it isn't that hard - just needs people to know what their roles are.
                            3. discipline. it's hard enough to beat them without going down to 14 men.
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                            @reprobate said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                            1. the ruck. this is where they are the best in the world. We need to disrupt without being penalised, and stop them from doing the same to us. Ireland have realised that rucks are more frequent than any other contest for possession, and the biggest source of turnovers and penalties in almost every single game, and this is where their focus is. i find it really disturbing that so many comments above on 'how we can win it' talk about every bloody other thing and don't mention this: everything else is secondary.
                            2. they obstruct terribly and get away with it, and chase well when the ball is in the air. this is the other area where they are clearly better than us, and it ought to be brought up with the referees in advance and worked on heavily by us, as it isn't that hard - just needs people to know what their roles are.
                            3. discipline. it's hard enough to beat them without going down to 14 men.

                            One thing I noticed watching Jocks go down, was how often an Irish tackler hangs on by tackled player’s foot, thus placing him full length right behind attacking ruck. They roll away lethargically sometimes away from halfback and sometimes towards him.

                            For example, at 11.38 Irish 5 rolls back into Price’s feet.

                            All teams do it but I’m sure Paddies in double figures, so a tactic.

                            For me it’s an automatic penalty unless obvious that genuine attempt made to avoid disruption.

                            Rassie video required?

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                              @reprobate said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              1. the ruck. this is where they are the best in the world. We need to disrupt without being penalised, and stop them from doing the same to us. Ireland have realised that rucks are more frequent than any other contest for possession, and the biggest source of turnovers and penalties in almost every single game, and this is where their focus is. i find it really disturbing that so many comments above on 'how we can win it' talk about every bloody other thing and don't mention this: everything else is secondary.
                              2. they obstruct terribly and get away with it, and chase well when the ball is in the air. this is the other area where they are clearly better than us, and it ought to be brought up with the referees in advance and worked on heavily by us, as it isn't that hard - just needs people to know what their roles are.
                              3. discipline. it's hard enough to beat them without going down to 14 men.

                              One thing I noticed watching Jocks go down, was how often an Irish tackler hangs on by tackled player’s foot, thus placing him full length right behind attacking ruck. They roll away lethargically sometimes away from halfback and sometimes towards him.

                              For example, at 11.38 Irish 5 rolls back into Price’s feet.

                              All teams do it but I’m sure Paddies in double figures, so a tactic.

                              For me it’s an automatic penalty unless obvious that genuine attempt made to avoid disruption.

                              Rassie video required?

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                              @pakman GAGR video would be better 😬

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                                @reprobate said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                1. the ruck. this is where they are the best in the world. We need to disrupt without being penalised, and stop them from doing the same to us. Ireland have realised that rucks are more frequent than any other contest for possession, and the biggest source of turnovers and penalties in almost every single game, and this is where their focus is. i find it really disturbing that so many comments above on 'how we can win it' talk about every bloody other thing and don't mention this: everything else is secondary.
                                2. they obstruct terribly and get away with it, and chase well when the ball is in the air. this is the other area where they are clearly better than us, and it ought to be brought up with the referees in advance and worked on heavily by us, as it isn't that hard - just needs people to know what their roles are.
                                3. discipline. it's hard enough to beat them without going down to 14 men.

                                One thing I noticed watching Jocks go down, was how often an Irish tackler hangs on by tackled player’s foot, thus placing him full length right behind attacking ruck. They roll away lethargically sometimes away from halfback and sometimes towards him.

                                For example, at 11.38 Irish 5 rolls back into Price’s feet.

                                All teams do it but I’m sure Paddies in double figures, so a tactic.

                                For me it’s an automatic penalty unless obvious that genuine attempt made to avoid disruption.

                                Rassie video required?

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                                @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @reprobate said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                1. the ruck. this is where they are the best in the world. We need to disrupt without being penalised, and stop them from doing the same to us. Ireland have realised that rucks are more frequent than any other contest for possession, and the biggest source of turnovers and penalties in almost every single game, and this is where their focus is. i find it really disturbing that so many comments above on 'how we can win it' talk about every bloody other thing and don't mention this: everything else is secondary.
                                2. they obstruct terribly and get away with it, and chase well when the ball is in the air. this is the other area where they are clearly better than us, and it ought to be brought up with the referees in advance and worked on heavily by us, as it isn't that hard - just needs people to know what their roles are.
                                3. discipline. it's hard enough to beat them without going down to 14 men.

                                One thing I noticed watching Jocks go down, was how often an Irish tackler hangs on by tackled player’s foot, thus placing him full length right behind attacking ruck. They roll away lethargically sometimes away from halfback and sometimes towards him.

                                For example, at 11.38 Irish 5 rolls back into Price’s feet.

                                All teams do it but I’m sure Paddies in double figures, so a tactic.

                                For me it’s an automatic penalty unless obvious that genuine attempt made to avoid disruption.

                                Rassie video required?

                                I think we just need to exaggerate the effect it has....eg Sexton being tripped after the ball was out.

                                How the game will be played will depend heavily on who has the whistle....
                                I suspect we will have an Englishmen or Frenchmen....excluding Barnes...that would mean we're in trouble before we even get on the field

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                                  Come on New Zealand. If SA can get past the French, would love to see an all SH final

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                                    Come on New Zealand. If SA can get past the French, would love to see an all SH final

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                                    @rustycruiser you assume you’ll win your semi 😬

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                                      A few instances of HB tripping over Paddy would force ref’s hand (or should that be mouth)?!

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                                        Hope they realised how thier lack of physicality was a major issue then, as it has been on and mostly off for the past 4 years.

                                        There is a special line from Retallick in this for you @mariner4life

                                        Retallick says he has enjoyed the atmosphere the Irish fans have brought to the tournament, particularly the renditions of the 1990s pop song 'Zombie'.

                                        "I think that's one of the awesome parts about a World Cup, the enthusiasm the crowd bring," he added. "I've seen them singing the Cranberries, it's a great song, but hopefully they're not singing it on Saturday."

                                        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/rugby-world-cup-2023/2023/10/rugby-world-cup-semi-final-defeat-four-years-ago-motivation-for-all-blacks-in-blockbuster-knockout-against-ireland.html

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                                        @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        Retallick says he has enjoyed the atmosphere the Irish fans have brought to the tournament, particularly the renditions of the 1990s pop song 'Zombie'.

                                        "I think that's one of the awesome parts about a World Cup, the enthusiasm the crowd bring," he added. "I've seen them singing the Cranberries, it's a great song, but hopefully they're not singing it on Saturday."

                                        Hardly a song about Irish unity and creativity! As has been pointed out, "Ireland are very metronomic and robotic in how they play" so strange then the Irish fans have borrowed it (but the history and controversy is interesting if you look it up)...

                                        What can the AB fans do? A reverse chant, borrowed from Georgie G and the Wattles?
                                        "Four more years
                                        Four more years
                                        Get on the beers
                                        You'll need four more years"
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                                        • S stodders

                                          @Victor-Meldrew you mean like allowing them to score a try in the first 5 mins like they did in the NZ series in 2022?

                                          Eddie Jones laid the blueprint in 2018/2019 to play the current ABs. Score first and force the ABs to play catch up. Sometimes they can (vs England in 2019, Ire in test 1 2022) but sometimes they can’t (vs Fra 2021, Ire in 2021, 2022, SA test 1 in 2022 2019).

                                          Ireland haven’t been behind so far in this World Cup, have they? We don’t know how they react to scoreboard pressure.

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                                          @stodders said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          Ireland haven’t been behind so far in this World Cup, have they? We don’t know how they react to scoreboard pressure.

                                          So this is the straw we need to grasp? That unlike Ireland the ABs know how to lose and get dominated on a regular basis?! Well, that really puts my mind at rest, I'm sure?!

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