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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:

    Friz, Paps, Ardie

    I think that’s what they’ll pick. Finish the game with Cane subbing on for Papali’i & Barrett at 6

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:

    Friz, Paps, Ardie

    I think that’s what they’ll pick. Finish the game with Cane subbing on for Papali’i & Barrett at 6

    Not going to happen, same way they aren't dropping beaudy for DMac

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      Stuff the odds - one off game - let's go Black.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        Stuff the odds - one off game - let's go Black.

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        @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        Stuff the odds - one off game - let's go Black.

        Foster's back is against the wall, along with many of the senior players. It's win or the end of some AB careers. I just hope we play with a huge level of desperation

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          Stuff the odds - one off game - let's go Black.

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          @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          Stuff the odds - one off game - let's go Black.

          There’s my man!

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            ABs to replicate Ireland's last loss and smack them by 15+

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              Right. Everyone has their opinions on coaches and players. But the time for that has passed. This week is all support. Shove the negativity. Come fozzie, Sam and the lads!!

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              @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              Right. Everyone has their opinions on coaches and players. But the time for that has passed. This week is all support. Shove the negativity. Come fozzie, Sam and the lads!!

              100% the above. These are World Cup knockouts. The ABs and their coaches deserve our total support for this next bit.

              Go Fozzie! Go Sam! Go the Men in Black!

              This is the time to build up further the glorious legacy.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:

                Friz, Paps, Ardie

                I think that’s what they’ll pick. Finish the game with Cane subbing on for Papali’i & Barrett at 6

                I actually this has enormous merit. Bringing the super experienced Sam's on to finish when the whips are cracking.

                But I think Cane will start, and I hope that means Paps comes on absolutely fizzing

                We simply cannot let them continue to recycle phase after phase no matter who is selected

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                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                But I think Cane will start, and I hope that means Paps comes on absolutely fizzing

                That worked against the Boks in the RC (IIRC Cane was outstanding at the breakdown) but we may need to try something different against the Oirish.

                We can't let them dominate from the start and end up playing catch-up.

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                  Yep I would love to see us send Ireland out of the WC,Put a dent in their ego and get some revenge from past losses.
                  If we can we are in the Final as we will win the SF.
                  Meet SA in the final and make it a SH final how good.

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2023:

                    Draw is a definite mistake. Ranking needs to be made closer to the tournament.

                    It's not the draw as much as we don't switch at the quarters. If we did, it would even it out.

                    I reckon this is a great opportunity.

                    Ireland are the best team in the world, but we fucking owe them. Win this and the semi should be Wales, which is not easy but a better run towards a final.

                    I like it. Let's fucking go get them.

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                    @gt12 ABs were the clear best in the world in 2007. They had smashed France twice in France several months before. France won.

                    If Wayne Barnes is the ref, maybe he’ll let the underdog ABs have a clear forward pass try to close the circle on 2007 😂

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                      But I think Cane will start, and I hope that means Paps comes on absolutely fizzing

                      That worked against the Boks in the RC (IIRC Cane was outstanding at the breakdown) but we may need to try something different against the Oirish.

                      We can't let them dominate from the start and end up playing catch-up.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew you mean like allowing them to score a try in the first 5 mins like they did in the NZ series in 2022?

                      Eddie Jones laid the blueprint in 2018/2019 to play the current ABs. Score first and force the ABs to play catch up. Sometimes they can (vs England in 2019, Ire in test 1 2022) but sometimes they can’t (vs Fra 2021, Ire in 2021, 2022, SA test 1 in 2022 2019).

                      Ireland haven’t been behind so far in this World Cup, have they? We don’t know how they react to scoreboard pressure.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        Yep I would love to see us send Ireland out of the WC,Put a dent in their ego and get some revenge from past losses.
                        If we can we are in the Final as we will win the SF.
                        Meet SA in the final and make it a SH final how good.

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                        @Chris pretty much what most fans opposing the ABs over the years have said 😂

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                          Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

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                            Ireland will go after Ioane. But NZ can go after Gibson-Park and Sexton. Force Sexton to put his physical all into the game and watch as he whinges and whines and loses his focus. La Rochelle did it to him. No surprise that O’Gara knows how to get under his skin.

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                              Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

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                              @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

                              We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

                                We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

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                                @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

                                We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

                                Test rugby you mean 😉

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                                  @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

                                  We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

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                                  @canefan first half vs France was good. Stay in touch and if the opportunity to play with penalty advantage or their mistake comes, execute.

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                                    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @bayimports whatever they did before Ellis Park 2022…do it again.

                                    One of the hallmarks of the Foster era is the inconsistency. If we simply didn't have the cattle and were clearly just not good enough I could begrudgingly accept that. But we show glimpses of how good we can be, which is infuriating

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                                    @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @bayimports whatever they did before Ellis Park 2022…do it again.

                                    One of the hallmarks of the Foster era is the inconsistency. If we simply didn't have the cattle and were clearly just not good enough I could begrudgingly accept that. But we show glimpses of how good we can be, which is infuriating

                                    Well said that man. This is going to be tough but we can do it. If not then good luck to the Irish. That is where my family is from originally. You just have to love the support they bring.

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

                                      We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

                                      Test rugby you mean 😉

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                                      @MiketheSnow teams know to beat the ABs is by scoring tries. Where Ireland and France have improved, less so SA, is that they know they don’t have to do it from minute 1. But they do need to take their chances when they have good territory.

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                                        Ireland will go after Ioane. But NZ can go after Gibson-Park and Sexton. Force Sexton to put his physical all into the game and watch as he whinges and whines and loses his focus. La Rochelle did it to him. No surprise that O’Gara knows how to get under his skin.

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                                        @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        Gibson-Park

                                        That's the key. Ireland are a shadow of the usual without him.

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

                                          We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

                                          Test rugby you mean 😉

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                                          @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

                                          We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

                                          Test rugby you mean 😉

                                          Yes, I miss it sometimes 😔. A reunion on the weekend would be great

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