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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300985239/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-ramps-up-quarterfinal-pressure-on-ireland
    Foster: “They've got a group of players … this is probably their moment. If they’re ever going to win a World Cup, they’ll probably feel like it’s now, and as a team we’re kinda in the same mode. So it’s pretty exciting.”

    In the same mode??
    So this is the only possible time the ABs can win the RWC or the only possible time in the near future? Or maybe I just don't understand Ian Foster logic.

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    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300985239/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-ramps-up-quarterfinal-pressure-on-ireland
      Foster: “They've got a group of players … this is probably their moment. If they’re ever going to win a World Cup, they’ll probably feel like it’s now, and as a team we’re kinda in the same mode. So it’s pretty exciting.”

      In the same mode??
      So this is the only possible time the ABs can win the RWC or the only possible time in the near future? Or maybe I just don't understand Ian Foster logic.

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      @nostrildamus guess plenty are at the end of thier time in this team, so this is thier time too?

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @nostrildamus guess plenty are at the end of thier time in this team, so this is thier time too?

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        @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        @nostrildamus guess plenty are at the end of thier time in this team, so this is thier time too?

        if that is what he meant, but how many of the oldtimers have won an RWC gold medal or two? Probably quite a few!

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @nostrildamus guess plenty are at the end of thier time in this team, so this is thier time too?

          if that is what he meant, but how many of the oldtimers have won an RWC gold medal or two? Probably quite a few!

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          @nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?

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          • B bayimports

            @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            The fucking carry on after every little thing that goes their way

            You mean doesn’t go their way right? Curiously does Hawkes Bay have a large Irish heritage?

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            @bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            The fucking carry on after every little thing that goes their way

            You mean doesn’t go their way right? Curiously does Hawkes Bay have a large Irish heritage?

            Whadda ya talking about? Everything's going our way. We've got the shield (well, we're letting Wellington repair it for us over summer), we're the best at shield partying, we won the battle of the bays and knocked Of Plenty out of the finals on the same day. 😉

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              Swap Havili for Kirifi and send him out on a mission.

              Yep, call him up before this weekend's NPC semifinal. :grinning_face_with_big_eyes:
              Just to let him hold the tackle pads though. 😉

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              @Stargazer said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              Swap Havili for Kirifi and send him out on a mission.

              Yep, call him up before this weekend's NPC semifinal. :grinning_face_with_big_eyes:
              Just to let him hold the tackle pads though. 😉

              Not sure if I endorse that, I'm relying on him giving away dumb penalties.

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?

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                @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#New_Zealand
                not sure what is currently happening with Moody but good guesses!
                Cane of course, and JB. I count 9.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#Pool_A
                Just one.

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                • F frugby

                  The All Blacks don't win this game if it is an arm-wrestle. It doesn't suit us. We've got to back our expansive gameplan - will it look ugly if it doesn't work? Sure, but trying to beat Ireland at their own game is unlikely to work either.

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                  @frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  The All Blacks don't win this game if it is an arm-wrestle. It doesn't suit us. We've got to back our expansive gameplan - will it look ugly if it doesn't work? Sure, but trying to beat Ireland at their own game is unlikely to work either.

                  in a boxing analogy , we are the dangerous fighter with the fast powerful explosive hands, but with a few more technical flaws ,

                  And they are the more rounded technically correct boxer ,

                  Yeah trying to outbox them is probably not going to work .

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                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                    @frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    The All Blacks don't win this game if it is an arm-wrestle. It doesn't suit us. We've got to back our expansive gameplan - will it look ugly if it doesn't work? Sure, but trying to beat Ireland at their own game is unlikely to work either.

                    in a boxing analogy , we are the dangerous fighter with the fast powerful explosive hands, but with a few more technical flaws ,

                    And they are the more rounded technically correct boxer ,

                    Yeah trying to outbox them is probably not going to work .

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                    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    The All Blacks don't win this game if it is an arm-wrestle. It doesn't suit us. We've got to back our expansive gameplan - will it look ugly if it doesn't work? Sure, but trying to beat Ireland at their own game is unlikely to work either.

                    in a boxing analogy , we are the dangerous boxer with the fast explosive hands with a few more technical flaws ,

                    And they are the more rounded technically correct fighter,

                    Yeah trying to outbox them is probably not going to work .

                    We’re Earnie Shavers, they’re Larry Holmes.

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                      Lots of chest thumping here.

                      I fucking love it!

                      Ok Foster you Jabba looking, KFC munching cnut, I'll put aside the last 4 years and pledge my unquestioning allegiance to the cause. You don't deserve it, but fark me if I won't offer you my privates if you achieve the impossible.

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:

                        Friz, Paps, Ardie

                        I think that’s what they’ll pick. Finish the game with Cane subbing on for Papali’i & Barrett at 6

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                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:

                        Friz, Paps, Ardie

                        I think that’s what they’ll pick. Finish the game with Cane subbing on for Papali’i & Barrett at 6

                        That makes no sense to me. It's like 2019 all over again. Cane doesn't offer much coming on as an impact forward whereas Paps will.

                        Cane on first to blunt the Irish attack, Paps comes on fresh when the game is hopefully opening up.

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300985239/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-ramps-up-quarterfinal-pressure-on-ireland
                          Foster: “They've got a group of players … this is probably their moment. If they’re ever going to win a World Cup, they’ll probably feel like it’s now, and as a team we’re kinda in the same mode. So it’s pretty exciting.”

                          In the same mode??
                          So this is the only possible time the ABs can win the RWC or the only possible time in the near future? Or maybe I just don't understand Ian Foster logic.

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                          @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300985239/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-ramps-up-quarterfinal-pressure-on-ireland
                          Foster: “They've got a group of players … this is probably their moment. If they’re ever going to win a World Cup, they’ll probably feel like it’s now, and as a team we’re kinda in the same mode. So it’s pretty exciting.”

                          In the same mode??
                          So this is the only possible time the ABs can win the RWC or the only possible time in the near future? Or maybe I just don't understand Ian Foster logic.

                          The issue here is your over-analysing a coach's comment in the media. If we take our Fozzy bashing glasses off for a minute, he's basically saying we are in the mode of winning the World Cup.

                          Of this squad, most of these players have either never won it or won't be there in 2027, so I don't think that for this team, it is that unreasonable.

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                            Foz ramping up the pressure on Ireland. Good.

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                              The problem is neither Paps or Cane are great from the bench. Both are better starters.

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                                Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

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                                  Ireland's defence is incredible.

                                  8 points conceded vs Boks. nothing conceded vs Scotland until the contest was over.

                                  I'd have Mo'unga and Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                                  Let's George Ford them.

                                  Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    Ireland's defence is incredible.

                                    8 points conceded vs Boks. nothing conceded vs Scotland until the contest was over.

                                    I'd have Mo'unga and Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                                    Let's George Ford them.

                                    Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

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                                    @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    Ireland's defence is incredible.

                                    8 points conceded vs Boks. nothing conceded vs Scotland until the contest was over.

                                    I'd have Mo'unga and Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                                    Let's George Ford them.

                                    Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

                                    it's good, but the Bok numbers are misleading, they left heaps of points out there

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      Ireland's defence is incredible.

                                      8 points conceded vs Boks. nothing conceded vs Scotland until the contest was over.

                                      I'd have Mo'unga and Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                                      Let's George Ford them.

                                      Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

                                      See, it’s with cliches like this that we are destined to win.

                                      We will only keep the scoreboard ticking over if we play what’s in front of us…

                                      😎

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

                                        See, it’s with cliches like this that we are destined to win.

                                        We will only keep the scoreboard ticking over if we play what’s in front of us…

                                        😎

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                                        @ACT-Crusader dont want it to be a game of 2 halves, unless Ireland are good in the 1st and we are gooder in the 2nd...

                                        Also missed full credit, do they still have ladies in the kitchen?

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                                          lets just hope the ladies in the kitchen are good to us this world cup

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