RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman yeah they do all that right on the fringes, slowly.
Probably the smartest team going at present, gaming the rules to perfection, but its thier discipline to stay in thier systems that separates them, thier excellent rushing d-line is almost always off side, but with a whole line of players moving at the same time it is alot harder to see (although surely the AR should pick this easier than the ref in his peripheral)
Never been a ref, but if far AR lines himself up with back foot of ruck he can see offside by line of sight. So why not do it?
@pakman at club footy the AR sets the off side line, it would seem quite simple to police.
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@stodders said in All Blacks 2023:
Ireland haven’t been behind so far in this World Cup, have they? We don’t know how they react to scoreboard pressure.
So this is the straw we need to grasp? That unlike Ireland the ABs know how to lose and get dominated on a regular basis?! Well, that really puts my mind at rest, I'm sure?!
@nostrildamus Not to labour the point, in 2007, NZ were the form team coming into the tournament and romped through the pool games. It was only under the blowtorch pressure of the QF that the systems that had looked so good fell apart.
Scotland tried to put the Irish under pressure last night. Irish shut them down because so much goes through Finn Russell and Kinghorn got injured early. Ireland coughed up penalties in the first 20 mins and Scotland did not take the points when offered. Irish defence was v good, but I would expect NZ to take the points and trust their systems to get them back down into the red zone.
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@game_film said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I’m just looking forward to the images of Sexton on the bench in the 72nd minute, with his eyes glazed over, channeling 2007 DC with a thousand-yard stare.
would this be the biggest choke ever if Ireland continued to never win a knockout game with this team, and this level of international dominance?
Let's go Black - hoping for the best, but fearful of what a properly disciplined team will do against us.
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@nzzp Hmmmm. Guess it would depend on how the game played out. There’s losing …and there’s losing. But yeah. Difference between getting a statue or not. Jeeez, that’s a good line for an AB to use this week.
@game_film I honestly would be surprised if Ireland won 13+, or NZ won 13+. So much uncertainty.
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300985239/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-ramps-up-quarterfinal-pressure-on-ireland
Foster: “They've got a group of players … this is probably their moment. If they’re ever going to win a World Cup, they’ll probably feel like it’s now, and as a team we’re kinda in the same mode. So it’s pretty exciting.”In the same mode??
So this is the only possible time the ABs can win the RWC or the only possible time in the near future? Or maybe I just don't understand Ian Foster logic. -
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300985239/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-ramps-up-quarterfinal-pressure-on-ireland
Foster: “They've got a group of players … this is probably their moment. If they’re ever going to win a World Cup, they’ll probably feel like it’s now, and as a team we’re kinda in the same mode. So it’s pretty exciting.”In the same mode??
So this is the only possible time the ABs can win the RWC or the only possible time in the near future? Or maybe I just don't understand Ian Foster logic.@nostrildamus guess plenty are at the end of thier time in this team, so this is thier time too?
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@nostrildamus guess plenty are at the end of thier time in this team, so this is thier time too?
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@nostrildamus guess plenty are at the end of thier time in this team, so this is thier time too?
if that is what he meant, but how many of the oldtimers have won an RWC gold medal or two? Probably quite a few!
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@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@nostrildamus guess plenty are at the end of thier time in this team, so this is thier time too?
if that is what he meant, but how many of the oldtimers have won an RWC gold medal or two? Probably quite a few!
@nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?
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@mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
The fucking carry on after every little thing that goes their way
You mean doesn’t go their way right? Curiously does Hawkes Bay have a large Irish heritage?
@bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
The fucking carry on after every little thing that goes their way
You mean doesn’t go their way right? Curiously does Hawkes Bay have a large Irish heritage?
Whadda ya talking about? Everything's going our way. We've got the shield (well, we're letting Wellington repair it for us over summer), we're the best at shield partying, we won the battle of the bays and knocked Of Plenty out of the finals on the same day.
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@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Swap Havili for Kirifi and send him out on a mission.
Yep, call him up before this weekend's NPC semifinal. :grinning_face_with_big_eyes:
Just to let him hold the tackle pads though.@Stargazer said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Swap Havili for Kirifi and send him out on a mission.
Yep, call him up before this weekend's NPC semifinal. :grinning_face_with_big_eyes:
Just to let him hold the tackle pads though.Not sure if I endorse that, I'm relying on him giving away dumb penalties.
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@nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#New_Zealand
not sure what is currently happening with Moody but good guesses!
Cane of course, and JB. I count 9.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#Pool_A
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The All Blacks don't win this game if it is an arm-wrestle. It doesn't suit us. We've got to back our expansive gameplan - will it look ugly if it doesn't work? Sure, but trying to beat Ireland at their own game is unlikely to work either.
@frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
The All Blacks don't win this game if it is an arm-wrestle. It doesn't suit us. We've got to back our expansive gameplan - will it look ugly if it doesn't work? Sure, but trying to beat Ireland at their own game is unlikely to work either.
in a boxing analogy , we are the dangerous fighter with the fast powerful explosive hands, but with a few more technical flaws ,
And they are the more rounded technically correct boxer ,
Yeah trying to outbox them is probably not going to work .
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@frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
The All Blacks don't win this game if it is an arm-wrestle. It doesn't suit us. We've got to back our expansive gameplan - will it look ugly if it doesn't work? Sure, but trying to beat Ireland at their own game is unlikely to work either.
in a boxing analogy , we are the dangerous fighter with the fast powerful explosive hands, but with a few more technical flaws ,
And they are the more rounded technically correct boxer ,
Yeah trying to outbox them is probably not going to work .
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
The All Blacks don't win this game if it is an arm-wrestle. It doesn't suit us. We've got to back our expansive gameplan - will it look ugly if it doesn't work? Sure, but trying to beat Ireland at their own game is unlikely to work either.
in a boxing analogy , we are the dangerous boxer with the fast explosive hands with a few more technical flaws ,
And they are the more rounded technically correct fighter,
Yeah trying to outbox them is probably not going to work .
We’re Earnie Shavers, they’re Larry Holmes.
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Lots of chest thumping here.
I fucking love it!
Ok Foster you Jabba looking, KFC munching cnut, I'll put aside the last 4 years and pledge my unquestioning allegiance to the cause. You don't deserve it, but fark me if I won't offer you my privates if you achieve the impossible.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:
Friz, Paps, Ardie
I think that’s what they’ll pick. Finish the game with Cane subbing on for Papali’i & Barrett at 6
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:
Friz, Paps, Ardie
I think that’s what they’ll pick. Finish the game with Cane subbing on for Papali’i & Barrett at 6
That makes no sense to me. It's like 2019 all over again. Cane doesn't offer much coming on as an impact forward whereas Paps will.
Cane on first to blunt the Irish attack, Paps comes on fresh when the game is hopefully opening up.
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300985239/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-ramps-up-quarterfinal-pressure-on-ireland
Foster: “They've got a group of players … this is probably their moment. If they’re ever going to win a World Cup, they’ll probably feel like it’s now, and as a team we’re kinda in the same mode. So it’s pretty exciting.”In the same mode??
So this is the only possible time the ABs can win the RWC or the only possible time in the near future? Or maybe I just don't understand Ian Foster logic.@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300985239/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-ramps-up-quarterfinal-pressure-on-ireland
Foster: “They've got a group of players … this is probably their moment. If they’re ever going to win a World Cup, they’ll probably feel like it’s now, and as a team we’re kinda in the same mode. So it’s pretty exciting.”In the same mode??
So this is the only possible time the ABs can win the RWC or the only possible time in the near future? Or maybe I just don't understand Ian Foster logic.The issue here is your over-analysing a coach's comment in the media. If we take our Fozzy bashing glasses off for a minute, he's basically saying we are in the mode of winning the World Cup.
Of this squad, most of these players have either never won it or won't be there in 2027, so I don't think that for this team, it is that unreasonable.
