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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • O Old Samurai Jack

    ABs have had so many "learnings" you'd expect a 30-point victory! I know I harp on but it is the exits from the 22 that are going to be crucial. Last night in the Japan and Argies game, it was on the edge for both teams until a "BB-like shit kick" by Japan led to an Argie try and swung the momentum of the game. I will die a little on the inside when (not if...it is every game these days) this happens in the QF.

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    taniwharugby
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    @Old-Samurai-Jack maybe thats the problem, too many learnings and the messages getting confused.

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    • voodooV voodoo

      Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

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      @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

      Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

      Leave a certain Blues superfan alone!

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      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

        @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

        Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

        Leave a certain Blues superfan alone!

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        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

        @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

        Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

        Leave a certain Blues superfan alone!

        I did say "expects" not "wants" - surely even Tim isn't expecting Foster to make that change!

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        • voodooV voodoo

          Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

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          @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

          Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

          It's the same selection as the last time the top side was selected

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            I think that's only likely if they believe Sam is still short a run.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:

              Friz, Paps, Ardie

              I think that’s what they’ll pick. Finish the game with Cane subbing on for Papali’i & Barrett at 6

              I actually this has enormous merit. Bringing the super experienced Sam's on to finish when the whips are cracking.

              But I think Cane will start, and I hope that means Paps comes on absolutely fizzing

              We simply cannot let them continue to recycle phase after phase no matter who is selected

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              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

              I actually this has enormous merit. Bringing the super experienced Sam's on to finish when the whips are cracking.

              Exactly

              Every good performance in the last few years has been us having a good burst in the first half. We are decent front runners

              When the game gets into an arm wrestle? This side has been abysmal. It's about mitigating that by picking bench players than can close out a match.

              Whitelock v Retallick is a close call but they've settled on Whitelock being a finisher for the same reason

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

                Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

                It's the same selection as the last time the top side was selected

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                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

                Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

                It's the same selection as the last time the top side was selected

                No, they picked Cane initially and he got hurt just prior - edit - sorry, you're talking Italy not France? Not 100% then.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Ireland's defence is incredible.

                  8 points conceded vs Boks. nothing conceded vs Scotland until the contest was over.

                  I'd have Mo'unga and Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                  Let's George Ford them.

                  Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                  BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

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                    Imagine how good it would be if we win via a Beaudy drop goal? Would be the hero arc his storied career deserves as an ending in black.

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                    • F frugby

                      Imagine how good it would be if we win via a Beaudy drop goal? Would be the hero arc his storied career deserves as an ending in black.

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                      @frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      Imagine how good it would be if we win via a Beaudy drop goal chipkick out of our 22? Would be the hero arc his storied career deserves as an ending in black.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                        BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

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                        @Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                        BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

                        I hope not, otherwise....

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                          BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

                          I hope not, otherwise....

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                          @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

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                          and all this time I thought it was a sprig

                          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/06/super-rugby-pacific-beauden-barrett-reveals-how-close-heel-injury-came-to-ending-world-cup-hopes.html

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                            Just been told my wife is away and its on at the rugby club so I don't have to watch it surrounded by my Irish inlaws.

                            So week off to a good start.

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                              I went with the All Blacks.
                              Can't fathom how many people are underestimating the ABs - plus Ireland are going to have that RWC QF monkey on their back slowing them down...

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                                I'd love us to have a Merhts moment on Sunday...

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                                • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                                  I went with the All Blacks.
                                  Can't fathom how many people are underestimating the ABs - plus Ireland are going to have that RWC QF monkey on their back slowing them down...

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                                  stodders
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                                  @Billy-Webb what's your tipping form been like so far in the competition Billy? Just wondering if it merits a hedge 😄

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                                    There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

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                                    • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                      There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

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                                      @Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

                                      My feeling as well. 17 straight victories, some hard games on the trot, a loving Irish press, coach saying they will just get better, old Irish players fanning the love... it all screams "trip up" to me. But again, maybe delusional optimism causing me to see things that aren't there....

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                                        I wouldn’t pick one Irish player in a combined NZ/Ireland Father Ted’s XV….

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                                          Win or Lose I want to hear the Irish media bitching for a week about our physicality just like they did after we played them in Dublin the week after the Soldiers field lose.

                                          I feel like this nicey nicey PR shit that the NZRFU is so adamant about has infected our attitude on the pitch. If it needs to die a death for us to go back to a team that just smashes other teams so be it.

                                          The NH will talk shit about us either way so let them write their stories. God I am fired up for this match the weekend can't come soon enough.

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