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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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    I think that's only likely if they believe Sam is still short a run.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:

      Friz, Paps, Ardie

      I think that’s what they’ll pick. Finish the game with Cane subbing on for Papali’i & Barrett at 6

      I actually this has enormous merit. Bringing the super experienced Sam's on to finish when the whips are cracking.

      But I think Cane will start, and I hope that means Paps comes on absolutely fizzing

      We simply cannot let them continue to recycle phase after phase no matter who is selected

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      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

      I actually this has enormous merit. Bringing the super experienced Sam's on to finish when the whips are cracking.

      Exactly

      Every good performance in the last few years has been us having a good burst in the first half. We are decent front runners

      When the game gets into an arm wrestle? This side has been abysmal. It's about mitigating that by picking bench players than can close out a match.

      Whitelock v Retallick is a close call but they've settled on Whitelock being a finisher for the same reason

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

        Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

        It's the same selection as the last time the top side was selected

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        #189

        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

        @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

        Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

        It's the same selection as the last time the top side was selected

        No, they picked Cane initially and he got hurt just prior - edit - sorry, you're talking Italy not France? Not 100% then.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          Ireland's defence is incredible.

          8 points conceded vs Boks. nothing conceded vs Scotland until the contest was over.

          I'd have Mo'unga and Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

          Let's George Ford them.

          Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

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          @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

          BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

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            Imagine how good it would be if we win via a Beaudy drop goal? Would be the hero arc his storied career deserves as an ending in black.

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              Imagine how good it would be if we win via a Beaudy drop goal? Would be the hero arc his storied career deserves as an ending in black.

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              @frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              Imagine how good it would be if we win via a Beaudy drop goal chipkick out of our 22? Would be the hero arc his storied career deserves as an ending in black.

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

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                @Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

                I hope not, otherwise....

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                  BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

                  I hope not, otherwise....

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                  @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

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                  and all this time I thought it was a sprig

                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/06/super-rugby-pacific-beauden-barrett-reveals-how-close-heel-injury-came-to-ending-world-cup-hopes.html

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                    Just been told my wife is away and its on at the rugby club so I don't have to watch it surrounded by my Irish inlaws.

                    So week off to a good start.

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                      I went with the All Blacks.
                      Can't fathom how many people are underestimating the ABs - plus Ireland are going to have that RWC QF monkey on their back slowing them down...

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                        I'd love us to have a Merhts moment on Sunday...

                        Andrew-Mehrtens-zap.jpg630.jpg

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                        • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                          I went with the All Blacks.
                          Can't fathom how many people are underestimating the ABs - plus Ireland are going to have that RWC QF monkey on their back slowing them down...

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                          stodders
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                          @Billy-Webb what's your tipping form been like so far in the competition Billy? Just wondering if it merits a hedge 😄

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                            There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

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                            • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                              There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

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                              @Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

                              My feeling as well. 17 straight victories, some hard games on the trot, a loving Irish press, coach saying they will just get better, old Irish players fanning the love... it all screams "trip up" to me. But again, maybe delusional optimism causing me to see things that aren't there....

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                                I wouldn’t pick one Irish player in a combined NZ/Ireland Father Ted’s XV….

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                                  Win or Lose I want to hear the Irish media bitching for a week about our physicality just like they did after we played them in Dublin the week after the Soldiers field lose.

                                  I feel like this nicey nicey PR shit that the NZRFU is so adamant about has infected our attitude on the pitch. If it needs to die a death for us to go back to a team that just smashes other teams so be it.

                                  The NH will talk shit about us either way so let them write their stories. God I am fired up for this match the weekend can't come soon enough.

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                                  • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                    There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

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                                    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

                                    This is the only way I actually see us winning - if there is actually some dry powder that Foz, Schmidt et al have been working on that will take the Paddies so much by surprise that they simply do not know how to react. We basically need a repeat of the 2019 QF

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                                      Any chance of Fozzie getting Covid before weekend?

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                                        Any chance of Fozzie getting Covid before weekend?

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                                        @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        Any chance of Fozzie getting Covid before weekend?

                                        Not sure if you’re saying Covid or covered or covert? When I read online the NZ accent can be hard to understand.

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                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

                                          This is the only way I actually see us winning - if there is actually some dry powder that Foz, Schmidt et al have been working on that will take the Paddies so much by surprise that they simply do not know how to react. We basically need a repeat of the 2019 QF

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                                          stodders
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                                          @junior New hybrid defensive system? Would be surprised, but against Boks at Mount Smart I seem to recall NZ used outside defensive shooters (like Boks do with Faf de Klerk). So far in the world cup, they have used their passive defence system.

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